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theking1
Romania658 Posts
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TheIlluminated
Norway35 Posts
I'm getting the feeling that his internship was terminated due to his interviews on stream? I'm just confused. :O | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Shimitsu
United States1 Post
Let's look at what really happened here. Terry attempted to make a racial joke that was not appropriate for that forum, but that's not to say it's not appropriate anywhere (despite the poor execution). People make racial jokes all the time. Terry did not act out of some deep-seeded racism; he simply wanted to be funny and to entertain the people watching. He just did it in a bad way. Show some better judgment, NASL. If you really had someone calling for Terry's head, I can assure you they are the vast minority. I'm the type of fan you're looking to attract to e-sports: I don't even play SC2, yet I love watching games. Tread lightly. | ||
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TheIlluminated
Norway35 Posts
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
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Penev
28528 Posts
Also the polls from the thread in case people missed it. + Show Spoiler + Poll: Is NASL overreacting with Terry? Yes (179) No (50) 229 total votes Your vote: Is NASL overreacting with Terry? Poll: Will you be boycotting Korean SC2 casts due to racism? Yes. Showing the white guys in the crowd is racist. Boycott (65) No, focusing on white guys in the crowd is fine and not racist (17) 82 total votes Your vote: Will you be boycotting Korean SC2 casts due to racism? (Vote): Yes. Showing the white guys in the crowd is racist. Boycott They're oddly contradicting, aren't they?  | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45922 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
don't think we need to bag on NASL too much  | ||
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perspicaciousinnate
45 Posts
I shake my head because you guys don't really understand how close-minded you guys really are. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Talking about/mentioning race isn't the same as racism. Maybe it offended the guy that he said it explicitly, but I bet most of the audience was thinking "wow, a black guy, they aren't very common in the SC2 scene". That's not racist, that's an observable fact. There are not many black people in the SC2 community as players, casters, or typically in the audience at events. It's not racist to say it. It might have been awkward for the guy in the audience, but it wasn't meant as a racist thing. As I said, highlighting race != racist. If you say that most sprinters and long distance runners in athletics are black, is that racist? If you say "wow, a white dude made it to the 100m final" is that racist? It's an observation of something unusual where race is the differentiating factor, but that does not mean it's racist, it's just an observation. If it's racism, then every observation about race is racist, like showing white guys in the crowd in Korea, or calling everyone non-Korean a "foreigner". In which case the whole SC2 community is absurdly racist. Most people would think that race and racism are different things, although some people might think any observation about race must be inherently racist. Also, pretty sure most of the crowd was white. And he is Asian. Highlighting another guy in the crowd who is also a minority. The only asian dude and the only black dude sitting together in the audience. | ||
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perspicaciousinnate
45 Posts
Like most racists, you don't realize you are really racist. | ||
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Heridan
2 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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josepvv
Mexico2 Posts
On August 16 2013 06:19 perspicaciousinnate wrote: Lonyo, Like most racists, you don't realize you are really racist. I disagree. Talking about race is not racism. Furthermore, a racist does know that he is a racist. If he doesn't, yet he acts as one, then it's a problem people should talk to him about for him to correct it. [Edit] And sometimes it is more about education than anything else, like «developed countries» thinking we Mexicans travel my donkeys and sleep all day next to a cactus (I've been sincerely asked whether we had cars and TVs in Mexico). The fact that I think black people are, in average, better at running or basketball does not make me a racist. Neither does the fact that I think Mexicans go to the USA because they need to suck on that country because of the lack of opportunities in theirs —and I'm Mexican. Just picture this: a western guy on the Korean WCS public; someone goes to talk to him and says something funny like "how does it feel being all by yourself here?". I'm guessing you would laugh, even though it is pretty much the same. As someone already said, people who are not racists are way more like that when trying not to be racist: the fact that you care about others looks and try not to do or say something wrong based on that means you just can't see them as one of your people. And that's just sad for you Americans. In Mexico for example, racial jokes are well accepted. You cannot actually mean them or act on stereotypes, but you can joke about it as long as it is the right place and time to do so. What Terry did was awkward and he totally seemed nervous: there's just no way you can put a newb like him on air and expect him not to do or say something that would feel out of place... | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
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Bonkarooni
United States383 Posts
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