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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 17:21:14
January 22 2016 17:03 GMT
#10841
That was... a pretty poor showing. Sorry to be brutal but man, that was rough. Let's hope there's a next one of Scarlett to make up for it
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
noego
Profile Joined July 2014
Czech Republic47 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 17:07:11
January 22 2016 17:04 GMT
#10842
That was disappointing. She was playing blind and getting punished for it every time. She looked outclassed by TLO.
BrieFanFiction
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States167 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 17:20:56
January 22 2016 17:14 GMT
#10843
Well that was really rough, but in all fairness TLO is really good and tricky, especially in ZvZ. I think Scarlett had one of the hardest first opponents in the Ro32. If Scarlett had gone up against any number of those other players in the Ro32, she probably would have made it to the quarterfinals. Some of the other routes are wicked-easy:

Bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_DreamHack_Open/Leipzig/Playoffs

The group 3rd from bottom: Firecake, Serral, HuK, and Scarlett? Scarlett in Quarterfinals almost automatically.

Nice try Scarlett! Good job fighting your way through the Qualifiers and the Group Stage!

edit: Btw, there are a ton of 3-1's and 3-0's in the Ro32. Maybe players aren't used to playing LotV at big events yet, and that's resulting in a lot of them getting tilted after a first loss?
Darkglasses
Profile Joined January 2016
Ireland25 Posts
January 22 2016 17:18 GMT
#10844
That was a tough one to watch as a Scarlett fan, it looked pretty comfortable for TLO. In fairness to him, he played extremely well and would be particularly keen to win at his home event.
Boysetsfire
Profile Joined October 2014
Mexico335 Posts
January 22 2016 17:33 GMT
#10845
Yeah the mindgames and builds went to him, well deserved win for TLO. I guess Snute would have been a more compfortable opponent for Sasha. She practised mostly on Na the last months (and i still aprecciate that), so probably she isn't that familiar with the shenanigans of most Euro- players yet. Just remember that she only plays sine a couple of month's again. Maybe she can get a bit matchpraxis in EU ladder over the weekend.
MarineLorD | Scarlett | ShoWTimE -|- INnoVation | SoO | Classic
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2435 Posts
January 22 2016 17:47 GMT
#10846
basically i just got punished for not practicing any aggressive builds
Progamer
Boysetsfire
Profile Joined October 2014
Mexico335 Posts
January 22 2016 17:53 GMT
#10847
On January 23 2016 02:47 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
basically i just got punished for not practicing any aggressive builds


isn't Korean ladder pretty agressive?
MarineLorD | Scarlett | ShoWTimE -|- INnoVation | SoO | Classic
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
January 22 2016 17:55 GMT
#10848
TLO IS TAINTED NOW, HE CAN NEVER #GO BACK @_@

We lose another one to the darkside so painful to watch... He was like the Obi-1 of starcraft...
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 18:03:17
January 22 2016 17:59 GMT
#10849
On January 23 2016 02:47 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
basically i just got punished for not practicing any aggressive builds

If you were going to play more passive builds, why no scouting? Especially game 1, getting bling sided by that many mutas... I know ZvZ scouting is hard but still. I'm not trying to criticize I'm just trying to understand
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Darkglasses
Profile Joined January 2016
Ireland25 Posts
January 22 2016 18:11 GMT
#10850
:3 they just showed a video of TLO's Dad at Dreamhack, that softens the blow a bit
BrieFanFiction
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States167 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 20:28:22
January 22 2016 20:28 GMT
#10851
On January 23 2016 02:47 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
basically i just got punished for not practicing any aggressive builds


That's ok, IMO you showed that you're still Ro16 @ Premier level, at the least.

Maybe aggressive builds are more powerful this early in the meta? And TLO with his natural trickiness, I think this phase of the meta at big events will favor someone with his play-style.

I wonder if the first few months of a new SC2 expansion are just a race to figure out and exploit the most broken elements before they wind up being fixed, and therefore result in a lot more aggressive play; or if people play conservatively because they don't want to be vulnerable to cheese (Scarlett's mindset?)

Wasn't the last Scarlett interview ages ago? #SomeoneInterviewScarlett!
Phil0s0pher
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia317 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 22:08:36
January 22 2016 21:43 GMT
#10852
ah well bad luck. TLO is pretty good, ey.

Now all my cheer power can go to Probe!

and Probe is out. #RIPTheDream
Sometimes I remember that there will be a day where herO and Maru retire. And I get sad
Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
January 22 2016 23:07 GMT
#10853
TLO just had the advantage of being the hometown favourite. There were alot of people cheering for him and they went crazy when he won, while we 4 or 5 guys on Scarlett's side were just clapping slowly like: yeah... gg I guess. :D
Mendici sumus. Hoc est verum. | I don't mind straight people, as long as they act gay in public. | Es ist keine Tugend edel geboren werden, sondern sich edel machen | οἶδα οὐκ εἰδώς
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
January 22 2016 23:11 GMT
#10854
On January 23 2016 02:55 ShambhalaWar wrote:
TLO IS TAINTED NOW, HE CAN NEVER #GO BACK @_@

We lose another one to the darkside so painful to watch... He was like the Obi-1 of starcraft...


...Wouldn't he be Anakin?

Also better luck next time Scarlett. Here's hoping TLO takes this whole thing down in your name.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
January 22 2016 23:27 GMT
#10855
On January 23 2016 02:14 BrieFanFiction wrote:
Some of the other routes are wicked-easy:

Bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_DreamHack_Open/Leipzig/Playoffs

The group 3rd from bottom: Firecake, Serral, HuK, and Scarlett? Scarlett in Quarterfinals almost automatically.

you cant be serious
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BrieFanFiction
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States167 Posts
January 23 2016 01:01 GMT
#10856
On January 23 2016 08:27 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 02:14 BrieFanFiction wrote:
Some of the other routes are wicked-easy:

Bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_DreamHack_Open/Leipzig/Playoffs

The group 3rd from bottom: Firecake, Serral, HuK, and Scarlett? Scarlett in Quarterfinals almost automatically.

you cant be serious


I am serious. Sasha in a group with TLO and Snute? Way rougher than the above mentioned.

To further my point; didn't Sasha just shut-out HuK pretty hard in the Qualifiers? HuK, who made it to the Ro16 over BeastyQT? Sasha = Ro16 caliber, easily.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 23 2016 01:27 GMT
#10857
On January 23 2016 10:01 BrieFanFiction wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 08:27 Paljas wrote:
On January 23 2016 02:14 BrieFanFiction wrote:
Some of the other routes are wicked-easy:

Bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_DreamHack_Open/Leipzig/Playoffs

The group 3rd from bottom: Firecake, Serral, HuK, and Scarlett? Scarlett in Quarterfinals almost automatically.

you cant be serious


I am serious. Sasha in a group with TLO and Snute? Way rougher than the above mentioned.

To further my point; didn't Sasha just shut-out HuK pretty hard in the Qualifiers? HuK, who made it to the Ro16 over BeastyQT? Sasha = Ro16 caliber, easily.

you do realize that Serral and Firecake are two of the hottest Zergs in EU right now, right? Both are better than TLO. Huk got fairly lucky with one of the easiest Ro32 opponents possible.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
BrieFanFiction
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States167 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 02:32:07
January 23 2016 02:09 GMT
#10858
On January 23 2016 10:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 10:01 BrieFanFiction wrote:
On January 23 2016 08:27 Paljas wrote:
On January 23 2016 02:14 BrieFanFiction wrote:
Some of the other routes are wicked-easy:

Bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_DreamHack_Open/Leipzig/Playoffs

The group 3rd from bottom: Firecake, Serral, HuK, and Scarlett? Scarlett in Quarterfinals almost automatically.

you cant be serious


I am serious. Sasha in a group with TLO and Snute? Way rougher than the above mentioned.

To further my point; didn't Sasha just shut-out HuK pretty hard in the Qualifiers? HuK, who made it to the Ro16 over BeastyQT? Sasha = Ro16 caliber, easily.

you do realize that Serral and Firecake are two of the hottest Zergs in EU right now, right? Both are better than TLO. Huk got fairly lucky with one of the easiest Ro32 opponents possible.


And you do realize that Scarlett vs HuK would have resulted in Scarlett in the Ro16? Right? I disagree that Firecake and Serral (both Zergs) are better than TLO (TLO, who 3-2'd Snute), especially in Germany. You're only as good as your last game. Do you think both Firecake and Serral (both Zergs) would have beaten Snute edit: and TLO? I don't. Also, TLO has always been the-bomb at events in Germany.

Look, my main point was that given an easier group or opponent, Sasha was a shoe-in for the Quarterfinals. Perhaps I'm mistaken about Serral and Firecake's group, but I stand by my point.

But still, if you think Serral and Firecake are better than Snute and TLO hands-down, (especially Snute), then IDK what to tell you other than you're crazy. Put Sasha up against Serral and Firecake, and she would have beaten one of them, and her beating HuK is obvious, is what I'm getting at; which would practically = Scarlett in the quarterfinals.

edit: I will grant you that "almost automatically" was too strong of a phrase.
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
January 23 2016 02:34 GMT
#10859
Well if it had to be someone, I'm glad it was TLO. The only other player in the scene that I really care about, now that Flash and Fanta have left.

fu TLO anyway though, and Scarlett grr

im upset, gonna have a milkshake
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
Phil0s0pher
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia317 Posts
January 23 2016 02:53 GMT
#10860
Speaking about hypothetical pathways to the finals is not very useful at all. If She vs'd X or vs'd Y then Z would have occured seems nonconstructive.

Given hope weird ZvZ has always been, and how its weirdness seems explified in LotV making absolute comments like "she was in a shoe-in for the quarterfinals"; "She would have beaten one of them" seem odd, and unproductive.

Sometimes I remember that there will be a day where herO and Maru retire. And I get sad
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