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variousczj
Profile Joined June 2014
Taiwan23 Posts
September 19 2014 03:14 GMT
#7021
http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/stories/1331679210764/a-study-in-scarlett-s-year
scarlett is better, and so are her rivals. it's gonna be good!
Get well soon!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 19 2014 04:39 GMT
#7022
On September 19 2014 12:14 variousczj wrote:
http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/stories/1331679210764/a-study-in-scarlett-s-year
scarlett is better, and so are her rivals. it's gonna be good!


I really like that picture of her at the top, I dont' really know why but it's very different and nice, just an fantastic angle/expressioin.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
nerpderp
Profile Joined February 2013
United States780 Posts
September 19 2014 06:55 GMT
#7023
I do too. I miss her curls
"It's not that I have A.D.D., it's just that oh look a bunny rabbit!"
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
September 19 2014 07:15 GMT
#7024
On September 18 2014 01:20 nerpderp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 22:05 Thax wrote:
On September 17 2014 16:37 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Wow congrats scarlett to advance in first place to the knockouts! Her zvz looked really sharp (although violet did his best to throw away those games) but I have to be honest too, that was some of the worst zvt i have ever seen from scarlett.

PS 7k post, congrats rabid scarlett fanclub! :)


The widow mine and Thor buffs took a big bite out of the effectiveness of ling/bling/muta VS Terran, which is the style that made Scarlett so good in TvZ macro games. Terran's needed the buff imo, but I'm sad that some of my favorite Zergs are struggling with the match up now and Zergs don't play so much ling/bling/muta anymore, which was one of the most entertaining styles to watch.


Aside from balancing the ZvT matchup, I think Blizzard also purposefully wanted to patch the ling/muta/bling style out of the meta. Even though it's entertaining to watch, it's been around since WoL, and they probably wanted to encourage players to start experimenting with different types of compositions.

I don't think blizzard intended to patch ling/bane/muta out of existence, they just wanted to balance the matchup...and they've largely succeeded. Ling/bane/muta is still the gold standard...it's not like there are any viable alternatives out there.

Considering she's having to relearn the matchup entirely, I don't think it was the among "worst ZvT" that Scarlett has played...

She's not having to relearn the matchup, it's funny because zvt is almost in an identical spot to when she started her pro career back in WoL. 2+ years ago the metagame was still the same early game shenanigans (bane bust, roach bust, 2-rax, cloak banshee, blue flame hellion), otherwise the same standard game of early hellion pressure, 11-14min terran midgame timing vs muta/ling/bane, and favoured zerg lategame once you get hive tech and 3/3. Scarlett has actually spent most of her career playing the same metagame...and winning.

Obviously with the buffs all zergs are struggling a bit to adjust, not just Scarlett. But that doesn't fully explain why Scarlett looked so off her game.

On September 17 2014 22:14 xtorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 16:37 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Wow congrats scarlett to advance in first place to the knockouts! Her zvz looked really sharp (although violet did his best to throw away those games) but I have to be honest too, that was some of the worst zvt i have ever seen from scarlett.

PS 7k post, congrats rabid scarlett fanclub! :)

GZGZ 7k posts we can easily make this the one with the most posts in a few months :p

I actually liked her games vs iaguz a lot, I don't have access to the replays but as I remember from last night they were not bad at all imho.

G1 - after the start she quickly switched into very aggressive expanding, when she realized there is not that much harass going on from iaguz. At some point she mustve thought "this is definitely not working with muta ling bane, its just too many widowmines" so she decided to switch into ultralisks / infestors, but by the time they came out iaguz was already all over with drops forcing her back to defend, as well as pushing with two armies on side bases.

I went back and rewatched g1 to try and see where it went wrong for her. Both players open fairly greedy but not extremely, but what's interesting is iaguz doesn't build any hellions. He leaves scarlett untouched for 10 mins and by 11 mins Scarlett Creep Spread™ is already almost halfway up the map. At 10 mins iaguz drops 4(!) mines in one of her bases, but his poor placement has his mines hitting a queen, overlord, and an egg for christ's sake. It looks like he gets maybe 2-3 drones. Basically Scarlett has done nothing special and iaguz has already conceded the early game advantage. In the past, any nerd foolish enough to leave Scarlett alone for 13 mins to creep up half the map in a zvt is basically already dead.

But then at 12min Scarlett starts her hive, which is incredibly early. As a consequence, when iaguz moves out at 13mins he already has a 20 supply advantage, which is always bad news in zvt. He attacks the 4th but scarlett's mutas are out of position harassing his base, her units are all out of position, her macro hatch is just finishing, her hive is still being completed, and she's significantly down in army supply. By the time her units arrive at the 4th, it's already dead. She's basically lost her 4th for free, a massive blow. It's inexplicable but it's almost as if scarlett is caught by surprise by a terran attacking her 4th at the 13 min mark.

Iaguz then continues to push deep onto creep, overcommits, and loses his whole army when scarlett has finally managed to rally out some ultras. Scarlett now has a 40 supply advantage but she sits at home instead of trying to do some damage, and iaguz is able to quickly rebuild his army with his strong 4-base vs 4-base economy. Scarlett still has a chance but she takes a bad engagement on a ramp with her mass ultras and walks her infestors into a marine firing line and despite a valiant fightback from scarlett it's over after a few more minutes.

It's basically down to decisionmaking I think. Scarlett actually had a lead twice in that game but lost it both times. The first time she took a big risk on a fast hive and wasn't ready for iaguz's push on her 4th and lost it for free. But iaguz gave her a second chance when he lost his army on creep, but scarlett just sat back and waited when she had the army advantage and iaguz had the economic advantage and that let him get back in the game.

Afterward, iaguz looks more surprised than anything that he's actually beaten scarlett in a straight up macro game. Big credit to him, I think he's surprised everyone by showing he can play a good macro game that's almost as impressive as his beard, but I know scarlett is capable of much better than that. Last year Scarlett was kicking ass at WCS even when widow mines were also at full strength and terrans were winning everything in sight. Scarlett has already shown she knows how to play and win in a terran-favoured metagame. She will need to bring a much better game than she showed against Iaguz to beat Heart. I hope she can, and I think she can :)
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
September 19 2014 08:58 GMT
#7025
On September 19 2014 13:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 12:14 variousczj wrote:
http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/stories/1331679210764/a-study-in-scarlett-s-year
scarlett is better, and so are her rivals. it's gonna be good!


I really like that picture of her at the top, I dont' really know why but it's very different and nice, just an fantastic angle/expressioin.

That's a gorgeous picture indeed; the redbull photographer is quite the artist
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
September 19 2014 19:43 GMT
#7026
Scarlett looks ready to smash everyone Scarlett Fighting!!
ok
Eolo
Profile Joined January 2013
Spain276 Posts
September 20 2014 11:15 GMT
#7027
Really nice look! Good luck this day for you, I wish you your best
Vamos Scarlett ♪♫♪♫☼ :)
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
September 20 2014 14:48 GMT
#7028
Lets go Scarlett you got this, Scarlett Strong!!
ok
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
September 20 2014 15:11 GMT
#7029
That's a tough group for Scarlett for sure but she can beat all of them. have Have fun and relax Scarlett were all behind you.
ok
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 15:51:41
September 20 2014 15:37 GMT
#7030
oh wow, she starts vs PartinG!

let's do this - you WILL TAKE PARTING DOWN !

---
this is your time now, cmon Sasha! you're a WINNER, let's write some history, let's goooo!
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
September 20 2014 15:58 GMT
#7031
Scarlett Fighting!!!! G O Scarlett!!
ok
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
September 20 2014 16:24 GMT
#7032
Wow she definatly got the harder group, going into the tournament I waw thinking cure, parting were 2 of the best players, having to beat one of them to advance is going to be hard.

But if anyone can do it its Scarlett!!!! GOGOGOGO!!!!
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
September 20 2014 19:07 GMT
#7033
Now it's TIME for Scarlett!!! Stay strong you can beat theses guy's. Scarlett Fighting!!!!

ok
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
September 20 2014 20:15 GMT
#7034
Relax and have fun Scarlett
ok
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
September 20 2014 20:27 GMT
#7035
wow, fantastic intro video. beautiful and meaningful words from her
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
September 20 2014 20:29 GMT
#7036
:DDDD gogo Scarlett!!!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
spritzz
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada331 Posts
September 20 2014 20:34 GMT
#7037
what a move!!!!
zugzug
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
September 20 2014 20:34 GMT
#7038
GGGGGGGGG SCARLETTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok
Relentless`
Profile Joined July 2012
United States151 Posts
September 20 2014 20:37 GMT
#7039
SICK GAME 1!!

Time to dethrone that train and crush Parting's soul!

You got this! Good luck, but more importantly have fun the rest of the way through!!!
"Every man dies, not every man really lives." - William Wallace
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 21:07:23
September 20 2014 20:45 GMT
#7040
SHE WINS THIS

OH GOD SHE IS SRSLY GONNA WIN THIS ENTIRE MATCH 2-0 with an absolute TOUCH OF GENIUS

wow she is all over this, lings in the main

damn PartinG sniping everything in main TT

Scarlett lets focus, you have this game!
cmon U HAVE >THIIIISSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

lets keep the crucial abducts going, please!

omygod KILL HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD


SCARLETT 2-0 PartinG

THATS HOW CHAMPIONS ROLL!
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