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Bolognatroll
Profile Joined May 2011
United States32 Posts
December 27 2011 19:48 GMT
#741
you just repackage the word to "early aggression" LOL its cheese dude he 2 rax almost every toss, does the same marauder hellion all in to zergs and then plays halfway decent games some of the time in tvt... call it what you want but before your brood war hero switched over it would be cheese, and if you saw someone like deezer playing terran like forgg did you would bash him and call him a cheesy player, but because hes the messiah of recent broodwar pros switching over your automatticaly on his nuts like a MKP fan girl or a Destiny fanboy.... LOLLLL

FORGG IS A CHEESY PLAYER END OF STORY

User was warned for this post
"Never say Never"
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 27 2011 19:51 GMT
#742
i think the troll in his name kinda gives it away :p
Stork[gm]
kaup
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany22 Posts
December 27 2011 20:11 GMT
#743
On December 28 2011 04:48 Bolognatroll wrote:
you just repackage the word to "early aggression" LOL its cheese dude he 2 rax almost every toss, does the same marauder hellion all in to zergs and then plays halfway decent games some of the time in tvt... call it what you want but before your brood war hero switched over it would be cheese, and if you saw someone like deezer playing terran like forgg did you would bash him and call him a cheesy player, but because hes the messiah of recent broodwar pros switching over your automatticaly on his nuts like a MKP fan girl or a Destiny fanboy.... LOLLLL

FORGG IS A CHEESY PLAYER END OF STORY

User was warned for this post


2 rax vs toss is standart and not "cheese"
Sphen5117
Profile Joined September 2011
United States413 Posts
December 27 2011 20:23 GMT
#744
On December 28 2011 05:11 kaup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 04:48 Bolognatroll wrote:
you just repackage the word to "early aggression" LOL its cheese dude he 2 rax almost every toss, does the same marauder hellion all in to zergs and then plays halfway decent games some of the time in tvt... call it what you want but before your brood war hero switched over it would be cheese, and if you saw someone like deezer playing terran like forgg did you would bash him and call him a cheesy player, but because hes the messiah of recent broodwar pros switching over your automatticaly on his nuts like a MKP fan girl or a Destiny fanboy.... LOLLLL

FORGG IS A CHEESY PLAYER END OF STORY

User was warned for this post


2 rax vs toss is standart and not "cheese"



While I disagree with how he worded his paragraph of shit, he's got a point. The matchup doesn't change whether or not a build is cheese. Think of when 4 gating was "standard" in PvP. Using something more often doesn't make it less cheesy. The fact is there are a number of terrans in the GSL and with success elsewhere who get by with abusive early-mid game builds, never going lategame, only doing the Terran faux-"all-ins". Terran has the largest variety of early game or 2 base timing pushes or abuses that a player can get away with, because no other race's units or army is as cost effective, thus they can have either more army and the same econ as their opponenet, or the same army size and better econ/tech.

That being said, I hope he does well and all, I'd love to see him actually become innovative, and to test the mettle of more BW pros. But for right now it does indeed look like he's just been using the typical terran recipe for success. It's simply a good player using the same recipe, so he squeezes out another unit or two, or has better control, or hits a bit quicker, etc.
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1160 Posts
December 27 2011 20:58 GMT
#745
Sign me up, beastly player and also BW (yes, this can be a legitimate factor for being a fan of someone, dammit).
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
December 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#746
On December 28 2011 04:35 Suvorov wrote:
It's really sad that the majority of sc2 fans have an average IQ of minus ten thousand. Cheese is not cheese. Being aggressive is not cheese. Macroing all game long is not 'strategy' and it's sure as hell not fun to watch.

Before boring those of us who enjoy forgg's play with your utter idiocy and disregard for common sense, review the following:

1.- Forgg does NOT play seriously on his stream.
2.- Forgg does NOT play seriously on his stream.
3.- Forgg 'cheeses' while streaming because he's having fun.
4.- Forgg 'cheeses' while streaming because fans request him to do so and thus he complies.
5.- Forgg's BW career alone is enough to silence every single one of you noobs who do not understand what macro and micro are, how they're supposed to go hand-in-hand and what people really enjoy from a war-game: action.
6.- SC2 is not sim-city.
7.- If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.

Greetings


Well put...imma take that quote from you LOL and put it on my stream thread
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
taniboy
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden28 Posts
December 28 2011 01:11 GMT
#747
sign me up!
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
December 28 2011 01:32 GMT
#748
He's only using builds that would deliver quick action to the viewers. He's doing it on purpose for YOU peeps who watch his stream so you can enjoy his stream. It's a fan service, not "ForGG only knows cheese".
xyos_
Profile Joined December 2011
Colombia2 Posts
December 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#749
sign me up, I'm his mod on chat
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
December 28 2011 09:35 GMT
#750
On December 28 2011 04:48 Bolognatroll wrote:
you just repackage the word to "early aggression" LOL its cheese dude he 2 rax almost every toss, does the same marauder hellion all in to zergs
User was warned for this post



Please don't hate on Forgg. I just easily won a TvZ using his hellion marauder build. I love Forgg he shows me how to get quick wins against all races haha as Terran!
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
December 28 2011 10:23 GMT
#751
On December 28 2011 06:03 ChoDing wrote:
Well put...imma take that quote from you LOL and put it on my stream thread


Go ahead lol, i'd be delighted
If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.
S4KuR4
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France52 Posts
December 28 2011 10:58 GMT
#752
Sign me up
♥ Bomber|Mvp|MKP|MMA|Avilo|ForGG ♥ :D Sup sons! Terran power!!!!!!!! ♥♥♥
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 12:23:18
December 28 2011 12:19 GMT
#753
On December 28 2011 06:03 ChoDing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 04:35 Suvorov wrote:
It's really sad that the majority of sc2 fans have an average IQ of minus ten thousand. Cheese is not cheese. Being aggressive is not cheese. Macroing all game long is not 'strategy' and it's sure as hell not fun to watch.

Before boring those of us who enjoy forgg's play with your utter idiocy and disregard for common sense, review the following:

1.- Forgg does NOT play seriously on his stream.
2.- Forgg does NOT play seriously on his stream.
3.- Forgg 'cheeses' while streaming because he's having fun.
4.- Forgg 'cheeses' while streaming because fans request him to do so and thus he complies.
5.- Forgg's BW career alone is enough to silence every single one of you noobs who do not understand what macro and micro are, how they're supposed to go hand-in-hand and what people really enjoy from a war-game: action.
6.- SC2 is not sim-city.
7.- If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.

Greetings


Well put...imma take that quote from you LOL and put it on my stream thread



Quoted for apparent truth.

Edit : also I just read and agree with someone who said it was a mechanic beast. It's so nice to watch this level of rigor.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
CluEleSs_UK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom583 Posts
December 28 2011 12:25 GMT
#754
He's such a cheesy faggot :D it's brilliant!
"If it turns out he is leaving the ESL to focus on cooking crystal meth I'll agree that it is somewhat disgraceful, but I'll hold off judgement until then."
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 12:58:15
December 28 2011 12:52 GMT
#755
On December 28 2011 10:32 jellyjello wrote:
He's only using builds that would deliver quick action to the viewers. He's doing it on purpose for YOU peeps who watch his stream so you can enjoy his stream. It's a fan service, not "ForGG only knows cheese".


and also so he can run another 3 ads after every game, just saying.

Still, to each their own, sign me up.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
December 28 2011 13:34 GMT
#756
Now I understand why I get so much abuse on ladder.

I don't really get it to be honest. ForGGs play is purposeful, it's efficient and it has a goal.
It makes so much sense to me to build from the ground up.
Can I kill them in 3 minutes? Can I kill them in 5 minutes? Can I kill them in 7 minutes?
He's learning so much about the game playing like this. He's seeing all the timings, all the weaknesses of opponents builds and maximising the potential of his own builds.
1-1-1 builds didn't dominate overnight; it took players brute forcing them game after game to find that perfect mix of units.

Anyone who watches BW knows that ForGG can play a late game. In fact he has phenomenal late game multi-tasking.
It will just take a while before he sees the needs to play that way. And even when he does start playing longer games it will only be if his opponent is good enough not to die to the plethora of fast, dangerous timing attacks that come there way.

One of my new favourite streams, go ForGG!
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
December 28 2011 13:38 GMT
#757
On December 28 2011 22:34 Klive5ive wrote:
Now I understand why I get so much abuse on ladder.

I don't really get it to be honest. ForGGs play is purposeful, it's efficient and it has a goal.
It makes so much sense to me to build from the ground up.
Can I kill them in 3 minutes? Can I kill them in 5 minutes? Can I kill them in 7 minutes?
He's learning so much about the game playing like this. He's seeing all the timings, all the weaknesses of opponents builds and maximising the potential of his own builds.
1-1-1 builds didn't dominate overnight; it took players brute forcing them game after game to find that perfect mix of units.

Anyone who watches BW knows that ForGG can play a late game. In fact he has phenomenal late game multi-tasking.
It will just take a while before he sees the needs to play that way. And even when he does start playing longer games it will only be if his opponent is good enough not to die to the plethora of fast, dangerous timing attacks that come there way.

One of my new favourite streams, go ForGG!
Precisely. Everything I ever wanted to tell the TL-ers that are silly/whiney.


valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
December 28 2011 14:16 GMT
#758
This is how you get good guys. You practice the same strat over and over and over and over and voila, eventually you'll execute it perfectly plut your apm, awareness and everything went up too in the process. Sure, you know only one start, but it's easier to adapt from here, than if you don't know any solid strats and have 110 apm and just try everything randomly.
ggaemo fan
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
December 28 2011 14:18 GMT
#759
fOrGG plays alot of macro games in tournaments, stop whining.
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
December 29 2011 13:43 GMT
#760
[QUOTE]On December 28 2011 06:03 ChoDing wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 28 2011 04:35 Suvorov wrote:
It's really sad that the majority of sc2 fans have an average IQ of minus ten thousand. Cheese is not cheese. Being aggressive is not cheese. Macroing all game long is not 'strategy' and it's sure as hell not fun to watch.

Before boring those of us who enjoy forgg's play with your utter idiocy and disregard for common sense, review the following:

1.- Forgg does NOT play seriously on his stream.
2.- Forgg does NOT play seriously on his stream.
3.- Forgg 'cheeses' while streaming because he's having fun.
4.- Forgg 'cheeses' while streaming because fans request him to do so and thus he complies.
5.- Forgg's BW career alone is enough to silence every single one of you noobs who do not understand what macro and micro are, how they're supposed to go hand-in-hand and what people really enjoy from a war-game: action.
6.- SC2 is not sim-city.
7.- If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.

Greetings[/QUOTE]

Nuff Said. Don't hate forGG because he has enough solid macro and micro to do these aggressive strategies.
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
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