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Bolognatroll
United States32 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
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kaup
Germany22 Posts
On December 28 2011 04:48 Bolognatroll wrote: you just repackage the word to "early aggression" LOL its cheese dude he 2 rax almost every toss, does the same marauder hellion all in to zergs and then plays halfway decent games some of the time in tvt... call it what you want but before your brood war hero switched over it would be cheese, and if you saw someone like deezer playing terran like forgg did you would bash him and call him a cheesy player, but because hes the messiah of recent broodwar pros switching over your automatticaly on his nuts like a MKP fan girl or a Destiny fanboy.... LOLLLL FORGG IS A CHEESY PLAYER END OF STORY User was warned for this post 2 rax vs toss is standart and not "cheese" | ||
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Sphen5117
United States413 Posts
While I disagree with how he worded his paragraph of shit, he's got a point. The matchup doesn't change whether or not a build is cheese. Think of when 4 gating was "standard" in PvP. Using something more often doesn't make it less cheesy. The fact is there are a number of terrans in the GSL and with success elsewhere who get by with abusive early-mid game builds, never going lategame, only doing the Terran faux-"all-ins". Terran has the largest variety of early game or 2 base timing pushes or abuses that a player can get away with, because no other race's units or army is as cost effective, thus they can have either more army and the same econ as their opponenet, or the same army size and better econ/tech. That being said, I hope he does well and all, I'd love to see him actually become innovative, and to test the mettle of more BW pros. But for right now it does indeed look like he's just been using the typical terran recipe for success. It's simply a good player using the same recipe, so he squeezes out another unit or two, or has better control, or hits a bit quicker, etc. | ||
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dangthatsright
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ChoDing
United States740 Posts
On December 28 2011 04:35 Suvorov wrote: It's really sad that the majority of sc2 fans have an average IQ of minus ten thousand. Cheese is not cheese. Being aggressive is not cheese. Macroing all game long is not 'strategy' and it's sure as hell not fun to watch. Before boring those of us who enjoy forgg's play with your utter idiocy and disregard for common sense, review the following: 1.- Forgg does NOT play seriously on his stream. 2.- Forgg does NOT play seriously on his stream. 3.- Forgg 'cheeses' while streaming because he's having fun. 4.- Forgg 'cheeses' while streaming because fans request him to do so and thus he complies. 5.- Forgg's BW career alone is enough to silence every single one of you noobs who do not understand what macro and micro are, how they're supposed to go hand-in-hand and what people really enjoy from a war-game: action. 6.- SC2 is not sim-city. 7.- If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard. Greetings Well put...imma take that quote from you LOL and put it on my stream thread | ||
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taniboy
Sweden28 Posts
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
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xyos_
Colombia2 Posts
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On December 28 2011 04:48 Bolognatroll wrote: you just repackage the word to "early aggression" LOL its cheese dude he 2 rax almost every toss, does the same marauder hellion all in to zergs User was warned for this post Please don't hate on Forgg. I just easily won a TvZ using his hellion marauder build. I love Forgg he shows me how to get quick wins against all races haha as Terran! | ||
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Suvorov
294 Posts
On December 28 2011 06:03 ChoDing wrote: Well put...imma take that quote from you LOL and put it on my stream thread Go ahead lol, i'd be delighted | ||
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S4KuR4
France52 Posts
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keioh
France1099 Posts
On December 28 2011 06:03 ChoDing wrote: Well put...imma take that quote from you LOL and put it on my stream thread Quoted for apparent truth. Edit : also I just read and agree with someone who said it was a mechanic beast. It's so nice to watch this level of rigor. | ||
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CluEleSs_UK
United Kingdom583 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On December 28 2011 10:32 jellyjello wrote: He's only using builds that would deliver quick action to the viewers. He's doing it on purpose for YOU peeps who watch his stream so you can enjoy his stream. It's a fan service, not "ForGG only knows cheese". and also so he can run another 3 ads after every game, just saying. Still, to each their own, sign me up. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
I don't really get it to be honest. ForGGs play is purposeful, it's efficient and it has a goal. It makes so much sense to me to build from the ground up. Can I kill them in 3 minutes? Can I kill them in 5 minutes? Can I kill them in 7 minutes? He's learning so much about the game playing like this. He's seeing all the timings, all the weaknesses of opponents builds and maximising the potential of his own builds. 1-1-1 builds didn't dominate overnight; it took players brute forcing them game after game to find that perfect mix of units. Anyone who watches BW knows that ForGG can play a late game. In fact he has phenomenal late game multi-tasking. It will just take a while before he sees the needs to play that way. And even when he does start playing longer games it will only be if his opponent is good enough not to die to the plethora of fast, dangerous timing attacks that come there way. One of my new favourite streams, go ForGG! | ||
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On December 28 2011 22:34 Klive5ive wrote: Precisely. Everything I ever wanted to tell the TL-ers that are silly/whiney. Now I understand why I get so much abuse on ladder. I don't really get it to be honest. ForGGs play is purposeful, it's efficient and it has a goal. It makes so much sense to me to build from the ground up. Can I kill them in 3 minutes? Can I kill them in 5 minutes? Can I kill them in 7 minutes? He's learning so much about the game playing like this. He's seeing all the timings, all the weaknesses of opponents builds and maximising the potential of his own builds. 1-1-1 builds didn't dominate overnight; it took players brute forcing them game after game to find that perfect mix of units. Anyone who watches BW knows that ForGG can play a late game. In fact he has phenomenal late game multi-tasking. It will just take a while before he sees the needs to play that way. And even when he does start playing longer games it will only be if his opponent is good enough not to die to the plethora of fast, dangerous timing attacks that come there way. One of my new favourite streams, go ForGG! | ||
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
[QUOTE]On December 28 2011 04:35 Suvorov wrote: It's really sad that the majority of sc2 fans have an average IQ of minus ten thousand. Cheese is not cheese. Being aggressive is not cheese. Macroing all game long is not 'strategy' and it's sure as hell not fun to watch. Before boring those of us who enjoy forgg's play with your utter idiocy and disregard for common sense, review the following: 1.- Forgg does NOT play seriously on his stream. 2.- Forgg does NOT play seriously on his stream. 3.- Forgg 'cheeses' while streaming because he's having fun. 4.- Forgg 'cheeses' while streaming because fans request him to do so and thus he complies. 5.- Forgg's BW career alone is enough to silence every single one of you noobs who do not understand what macro and micro are, how they're supposed to go hand-in-hand and what people really enjoy from a war-game: action. 6.- SC2 is not sim-city. 7.- If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard. Greetings[/QUOTE] Nuff Said. Don't hate forGG because he has enough solid macro and micro to do these aggressive strategies. | ||
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