EPTI think she's playing less games this season, I'm a bit sad
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DharmaTurtle
United States283 Posts
I think she's playing less games this season, I'm a bit sad User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
There are a gazillion people who just stream. Right now i see a bunch of streams featured that are completely random and could be exchanged for whatever 200 other streams are online. (Fuzer, Naamis, Slayers_Dragon...) Not to hate on anybody, but they are not unique. They don't bring anything new. They don't have huge "accomplishments". They don't give anything to the community and still they are featured. She should be featured because she gives something that nobody else does and there are enough people who want to see it. That should be enough by itself. | ||
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Skamtet
Canada634 Posts
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.Sic.
Korea (South)497 Posts
On August 11 2011 18:46 LojiQaen wrote: 1. A lot of people played BW and were big in more competitive scenes who stream now. 2. She acquired a lot of her fanbase because A) She's female and B) she was featured on TeamLiquid, etc. Still, this is not a reason to be featured. 3. I host tournaments every single week for Platinum-Diamond level players, should I be featured now? 4. Again, people like FourKWarden are Grandmaster level players, and aren't featured. 5. There are grandmasters who have less time to improve, and there are grandmasters that do have the time, but aren't featured. 6. You just said she had no time to become Grandmaster, guess that excuse fell apart... Viewer interaction is cool, but a lot of streamers do that, they just aren't always featured. 7. Pretty much any streamer with a mic does this, this is not featured material. So honestly, there should be no reason that Megumi should be featured since she is a lackluster player and streamer, who only gets viewers because she's a woman. So you suggest we feature every mediocre GM player? You need to learn some economics bro. Its pretty worthless to feature people only based on skill, since the average GM is worse than the more than enough pros that are being featured anyways. Megumi on the other hand, differentiates herself from people who only have "skill" to offer. For one, she provides a lot of commentary and insight into the game. Whenever she has the opportunity to join games with aspiring pros/pros, she again observes and commentates the games. She's basically sharing with us valuable stuff because she feels nice enough to. Secondly, being a female gamer of decent skill level isn't something you should look down upon. It provides a lot more insight into how females feel about the gaming scene, and gets out awareness that females enjoy games as well. Furthermore it can encourage other females to play games and be focused enough to get decently good at it, which would be beneficial for creating a larger player base and further competition in e-sports. In conclusion, I don't understand why you are being so close minded and biased against the fact that she's female. By your logic, we should just not provide any representation for female gamers and turn them all away from the game. Do you really think that's helpful for the gaming scene in general? Yes it does seem unfair for people to give more attention to females, but what can you do when people are genuinely interested in them? You can discuss skill level and what not once games reach out to enough females, at which point people will start judging them mostly on skills due to their ubiquity. tl;dr Shut the fuck up and stop bitching, there's a reason people like her... whether or not you agree with their reasoning is just a matter of your god damn opinion, so stop being a close minded idiot and get the fuck out. User was warned for this post | ||
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PharaohLarry
Canada70 Posts
Sure, I checked out her stream at first because a girl streaming sc2 and being very good at it is kind of rare... not trying to be mean, that's just kind of how it is. However, I kept going back to her stream when I was learning how to play terran, because she offered good insight, and feedback. If her stream really is un-featured, that would be a shame. I see it kind of like Mr.Bitter before he got famous. He was just some random zerg player, who got about 500 people per streaming session. But the thing is, he did something unique - 12 weeks with the pros, that helped me out tremendously - same as Megumi's stream. Anyway, keep up the great work Megumi- 화이팅! | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On August 11 2011 23:45 Skamtet wrote: SlayerS_Dragon is really unique... Dragon was maybe a bad example. My point still stands tho. | ||
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jenzebubble
United States183 Posts
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shortyyguy
United States12 Posts
I don't think that a player should win HUGE competitions to be able to be featured and you guys might say differently but she is one of the most polite and interactive streamers out there. You guys can argue all you want about how there are other people who also deserve to be featured but Megumi has given more then them to the Starcraft Community. Even tho Megumi may not be Grandmasters, she has shown that females can excel just as much as men can. Go ahead and bash me for bringing out the fact that she is a female but it doesn't matter to me. Sure, first time viewers go and say "HEY A GIRL! OMFG!" but the more you watch her and the more you follow her you lose that reaction and begin to understand her and what other female gamers go through and how they have just as much potential to power into the high leagues like any other person. Now I will await the posts about how people only watch her because she is a girl. But keep in mind she is one of the best female players in the world even though she is too modest to admit it she is and I have a feeling she knows it to. Now everyone please stop bashing other players and please stop posting about why Megumi should be unfeatured, this is a fan page for a reason and not a page to be bashing her or bashing anyone else. Thank you and next time you post think about how Megumi would feel when she is reading your post, ok? This is her fanclub thread, not the stocks. | ||
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teer
United States189 Posts
For me Megumes provides more than any featured or other "community member". She provides me a place to hang out and be welcomed. To meet others with a love for sc2 and most importantly have fun and play games. HAVE FUN and PLAY GAMES.. Let me say that again in case you missed it. HAVE FUN AND PLAY GAMES. If you're not having fun then go find somewhere you are having fun.  | ||
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Aardvarke
104 Posts
On August 12 2011 01:20 jenzebubble wrote: Slagging on other featured streamers isn't going to help Megumi's cause. I don't know her at all, but from what I've seen I doubt she appreciates you turning this thread into an opportunity to shit on other people. If you want to highlight her achievements that is one thing, but don't belittle others in the process. | ||
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enCore-
98 Posts
On August 11 2011 16:46 Skamtet wrote: Oh let's feature every master player then. You are just ridiculous, megumi is not "every" master player. Do you see a fan club as big as hers for every master player? Do you see other master players being defended like this for not being featured? I don't think so. I feel like TL, as the go to site for starcarft 2, has a responsibility to support streams like hers, as they help to grow the community significantly, even though that is hard to prove. As for the whole Sorcery debate, I am convinced that this played absolutely no part in this and ProTech is just a douche who can't get over himself. He even went so far as to encourage others to spam her stream just because he didn't like her choice of friends, I think that says enough about his personality. I would like to hear an official TL response to all this, giving their reasons besides an empty "lack of accomplishments", as this is clearly not the only reason looking at other streamers, and if they are going to reconsider. | ||
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SyVuS
United States13 Posts
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SyVuS
United States13 Posts
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ProTech
United States440 Posts
On August 12 2011 02:46 enCore- wrote: You are just ridiculous, megumi is not "every" master player. Do you see a fan club as big as hers for every master player? Do you see other master players being defended like this for not being featured? I don't think so. I feel like TL, as the go to site for starcarft 2, has a responsibility to support streams like hers, as they help to grow the community significantly, even though that is hard to prove. As for the whole Sorcery debate, I am convinced that this played absolutely no part in this and ProTech is just a douche who can't get over himself. He even went so far as to encourage others to spam her stream just because he didn't like her choice of friends, I think that says enough about his personality. I would like to hear an official TL response to all this, giving their reasons besides an empty "lack of accomplishments", as this is clearly not the only reason looking at other streamers, and if they are going to reconsider. Anyone who has anything to do with sorcery / friends doesn't deserve to be streaming in my opinion. If you stream playing with a person who admitted to cheating why does that deserve to be featured, much less streamed and why would TL.net want a stream like that being promoted? The viewers don't need to be watching games where she plays with someone who cheats, it's bad for the sc2 community. | ||
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enCore-
98 Posts
On August 12 2011 05:54 ProTech wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 12 2011 02:46 enCore- wrote: You are just ridiculous, megumi is not "every" master player. Do you see a fan club as big as hers for every master player? Do you see other master players being defended like this for not being featured? I don't think so. I feel like TL, as the go to site for starcarft 2, has a responsibility to support streams like hers, as they help to grow the community significantly, even though that is hard to prove. As for the whole Sorcery debate, I am convinced that this played absolutely no part in this and ProTech is just a douche who can't get over himself. He even went so far as to encourage others to spam her stream just because he didn't like her choice of friends, I think that says enough about his personality. I would like to hear an official TL response to all this, giving their reasons besides an empty "lack of accomplishments", as this is clearly not the only reason looking at other streamers, and if they are going to reconsider. Anyone who has anything to do with sorcery / friends doesn't deserve to be streaming in my opinion. If you stream playing with a person who admitted to cheating why does that deserve to be featured, much less streamed and why would TL.net want a stream like that being promoted? The viewers don't need to be watching games where she plays with someone who cheats, it's bad for the sc2 community. First of all, megumi never engaged in cheating and sorcery certainly was not cheating the very few times he played with her. There is no evidence in her VoDs at all to support such a claim. I know that he terribly hurt your feelings by cheating on you in 2v2, based on you behaving like a person that just got dumped, maybe you should take that up with a therapist. The first lessons you will learn there that you don't have to take it out on people that weren't at all involved. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On August 12 2011 06:39 enCore- wrote: First of all, megumi never engaged in cheating and sorcery certainly was not cheating the very few times he played with her. There is no evidence in her VoDs at all to support such a claim. I know that he terribly hurt your feelings by cheating on you in 2v2, based on you behaving like a girl that just got dumped, maybe you should take that up with a therapist. The first lessons you will learn there that you don't have to take it out on people that weren't at all involved. as you are supposedly an avid fan of megumixbear (a female sc2 player), it surprises me that you would support your arguments with sexist comments in her fan club. shameful. | ||
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ProTech
United States440 Posts
On August 12 2011 06:39 enCore- wrote: First of all, megumi never engaged in cheating and sorcery certainly was not cheating the very few times he played with her. There is no evidence in her VoDs at all to support such a claim. I know that he terribly hurt your feelings by cheating on you in 2v2, based on you behaving like a person that just got dumped, maybe you should take that up with a therapist. The first lessons you will learn there that you don't have to take it out on people that weren't at all involved. ./facepalm | ||
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Soulish
Canada1403 Posts
On August 12 2011 01:38 shortyyguy wrote: I have not belittled anyone. I don't think that a player should win HUGE competitions to be able to be featured and you guys might say differently but she is one of the most polite and interactive streamers out there. You guys can argue all you want about how there are other people who also deserve to be featured but Megumi has given more then them to the Starcraft Community. Even tho Megumi may not be Grandmasters, she has shown that females can excel just as much as men can. Go ahead and bash me for bringing out the fact that she is a female but it doesn't matter to me. Sure, first time viewers go and say "HEY A GIRL! OMFG!" but the more you watch her and the more you follow her you lose that reaction and begin to understand her and what other female gamers go through and how they have just as much potential to power into the high leagues like any other person. Now I will await the posts about how people only watch her because she is a girl. But keep in mind she is one of the best female players in the world even though she is too modest to admit it she is and I have a feeling she knows it to. Now everyone please stop bashing other players and please stop posting about why Megumi should be unfeatured, this is a fan page for a reason and not a page to be bashing her or bashing anyone else. Thank you and next time you post think about how Megumi would feel when she is reading your post, ok? This is her fanclub thread, not the stocks. How has she shown female gamers can compete with the best of male gamers? She's only masters in na User was warned for this post | ||
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GhostNova
Germany42 Posts
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shortyyguy
United States12 Posts
Masters is quite an achievement in my eyes. Sure Grandmaster is a lot more grand but Masters is still a great achievement. Her being in Masters shows that women can achieve just as much, thats what I said. Stop putting words in my mouth. Masters in NA should not be bad in anyone's book... I don't see how you are using that as an insult towards her. | ||
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