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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 16 2012 17:19 GMT
#10801
The curse strikes again.

Oh wait.
Refer to my post.
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 17:23:43
September 16 2012 17:22 GMT
#10802
Bow down to your Master!

Stephano is on the verge of adding yet another title to his belt. I honestly cannot see him lose two series in the grand final vs any of the three players left.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
September 16 2012 17:22 GMT
#10803
I hope the "already won" was a troll, since he tend to lose when he underestimate players like Sase or Mana recently
Meggiroth
Profile Joined March 2012
239 Posts
September 16 2012 17:28 GMT
#10804
Damn, Nerchio qualified to the world finals. The only real threat for Stephano in claiming world champion title.
"He who fishes in other man’s well often catches crabs." - Confucius
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
September 16 2012 17:28 GMT
#10805
On September 17 2012 02:22 Thurken wrote:
I hope the "already won" was a troll, since he tend to lose when he underestimate players like Sase or Mana recently


Because there si 2/3 odds he faces a player he already won against in this tournament. Typical stephano anyway, not to be taken too seriously
nazR
Profile Joined May 2011
France158 Posts
September 16 2012 17:30 GMT
#10806
On September 17 2012 02:16 whereismymind wrote:
Does someone know why do players go "Infestor, roach" versus standard strongest "hydra, roach, infestor" from 3 base(which stephano smartly played whole zvz tournament)?


I can only answer for the last ZvZ against Vortix on Antiga as i haven't seen the other games, to be able to play roach hydra infestors safely you need to know what your opponent is up to and need to have a LOT of gas.

In that game Vortix was under pressure after the small baneling attack on his natural, even if he didn't lose much he was forced to produce lings and spine, because he didn't know what Stephano was going to do afterward. Meanwhile Stephano was already transitioning (earlier gases, which meant earlier infestation pit as the casters pointed out and then faster 3rd). Faster 3rd which means more gas to produce hydras.

In summary if you're on an exact equal footing it can be risky to go hydra as they're very expensive, plus it's dangerous to attack with as they're so slow.

I think i'm not too far from the truth,

Hope Stephano wins this tournament, i was really worried after his recent losses in ZvZ but he seems to be ok with it atleast against foreigners
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
September 16 2012 17:35 GMT
#10807
On September 17 2012 02:30 nazR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:16 whereismymind wrote:
Does someone know why do players go "Infestor, roach" versus standard strongest "hydra, roach, infestor" from 3 base(which stephano smartly played whole zvz tournament)?


I can only answer for the last ZvZ against Vortix on Antiga as i haven't seen the other games, to be able to play roach hydra infestors safely you need to know what your opponent is up to and need to have a LOT of gas.

In that game Vortix was under pressure after the small baneling attack on his natural, even if he didn't lose much he was forced to produce lings and spine, because he didn't know what Stephano was going to do afterward. Meanwhile Stephano was already transitioning (earlier gases, which meant earlier infestation pit as the casters pointed out and then faster 3rd). Faster 3rd which means more gas to produce hydras.

In summary if you're on an exact equal footing it can be risky to go hydra as they're very expensive, plus it's dangerous to attack with as they're so slow.

I think i'm not too far from the truth,

Hope Stephano wins this tournament, i was really worried after his recent losses in ZvZ but he seems to be ok with it atleast against foreigners


So if you know you playing against an aggressive opponent going Roach/Hydra is always a good idea? Even if it means less infestors?
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
September 16 2012 17:37 GMT
#10808
The thing is, if you are max out, you can move out with roach hydra infestors and be agressive (and crush roach/infestor). But you need to have a perfectly balanced mix
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
September 16 2012 17:37 GMT
#10809
On September 17 2012 02:28 Meggiroth wrote:
Damn, Nerchio qualified to the world finals. The only real threat for Stephano in claiming world champion title.

The funny thing is that Nerchio qualified thanks to Stephano getting in top 6 and thus providing one more spot
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
September 16 2012 17:38 GMT
#10810
On September 17 2012 02:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:30 nazR wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:16 whereismymind wrote:
Does someone know why do players go "Infestor, roach" versus standard strongest "hydra, roach, infestor" from 3 base(which stephano smartly played whole zvz tournament)?


I can only answer for the last ZvZ against Vortix on Antiga as i haven't seen the other games, to be able to play roach hydra infestors safely you need to know what your opponent is up to and need to have a LOT of gas.

In that game Vortix was under pressure after the small baneling attack on his natural, even if he didn't lose much he was forced to produce lings and spine, because he didn't know what Stephano was going to do afterward. Meanwhile Stephano was already transitioning (earlier gases, which meant earlier infestation pit as the casters pointed out and then faster 3rd). Faster 3rd which means more gas to produce hydras.

In summary if you're on an exact equal footing it can be risky to go hydra as they're very expensive, plus it's dangerous to attack with as they're so slow.

I think i'm not too far from the truth,

Hope Stephano wins this tournament, i was really worried after his recent losses in ZvZ but he seems to be ok with it atleast against foreigners


So if you know you playing against an aggressive opponent going Roach/Hydra is always a good idea? Even if it means less infestors?



No, infestors/roach > infestors/hydra
and only roaches > roach hydras
But hydra are a good boost when you already have 30-40 roaches to protect them. And a good economy, obviously.
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 17:52:21
September 16 2012 17:51 GMT
#10811
On September 17 2012 02:38 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:30 nazR wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:16 whereismymind wrote:
Does someone know why do players go "Infestor, roach" versus standard strongest "hydra, roach, infestor" from 3 base(which stephano smartly played whole zvz tournament)?


I can only answer for the last ZvZ against Vortix on Antiga as i haven't seen the other games, to be able to play roach hydra infestors safely you need to know what your opponent is up to and need to have a LOT of gas.

In that game Vortix was under pressure after the small baneling attack on his natural, even if he didn't lose much he was forced to produce lings and spine, because he didn't know what Stephano was going to do afterward. Meanwhile Stephano was already transitioning (earlier gases, which meant earlier infestation pit as the casters pointed out and then faster 3rd). Faster 3rd which means more gas to produce hydras.

In summary if you're on an exact equal footing it can be risky to go hydra as they're very expensive, plus it's dangerous to attack with as they're so slow.

I think i'm not too far from the truth,

Hope Stephano wins this tournament, i was really worried after his recent losses in ZvZ but he seems to be ok with it atleast against foreigners


So if you know you playing against an aggressive opponent going Roach/Hydra is always a good idea? Even if it means less infestors?



No, infestors/roach > infestors/hydra
and only roaches > roach hydras
But hydra are a good boost when you already have 30-40 roaches to protect them. And a good economy, obviously.


That's wrong, only roaches is bad against roach hydra in a maxed situation. Excpet maybe of you are on a map that has no ramps and walls and can surround from every side.

Edit : And congrats Stephano =D Now go win this, ez.
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
September 16 2012 18:30 GMT
#10812
On September 17 2012 02:51 NeonFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:38 Insoleet wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:30 nazR wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:16 whereismymind wrote:
Does someone know why do players go "Infestor, roach" versus standard strongest "hydra, roach, infestor" from 3 base(which stephano smartly played whole zvz tournament)?


I can only answer for the last ZvZ against Vortix on Antiga as i haven't seen the other games, to be able to play roach hydra infestors safely you need to know what your opponent is up to and need to have a LOT of gas.

In that game Vortix was under pressure after the small baneling attack on his natural, even if he didn't lose much he was forced to produce lings and spine, because he didn't know what Stephano was going to do afterward. Meanwhile Stephano was already transitioning (earlier gases, which meant earlier infestation pit as the casters pointed out and then faster 3rd). Faster 3rd which means more gas to produce hydras.

In summary if you're on an exact equal footing it can be risky to go hydra as they're very expensive, plus it's dangerous to attack with as they're so slow.

I think i'm not too far from the truth,

Hope Stephano wins this tournament, i was really worried after his recent losses in ZvZ but he seems to be ok with it atleast against foreigners


So if you know you playing against an aggressive opponent going Roach/Hydra is always a good idea? Even if it means less infestors?



No, infestors/roach > infestors/hydra
and only roaches > roach hydras
But hydra are a good boost when you already have 30-40 roaches to protect them. And a good economy, obviously.


That's wrong, only roaches is bad against roach hydra in a maxed situation. Excpet maybe of you are on a map that has no ramps and walls and can surround from every side.

Edit : And congrats Stephano =D Now go win this, ez.


Thats exactly what i said. We are talking about midgame situation, not late game 200 200. Hydras are good only when already maxed.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 19:24:09
September 16 2012 18:31 GMT
#10813
On September 17 2012 03:30 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:51 NeonFox wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:38 Insoleet wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:30 nazR wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:16 whereismymind wrote:
Does someone know why do players go "Infestor, roach" versus standard strongest "hydra, roach, infestor" from 3 base(which stephano smartly played whole zvz tournament)?


I can only answer for the last ZvZ against Vortix on Antiga as i haven't seen the other games, to be able to play roach hydra infestors safely you need to know what your opponent is up to and need to have a LOT of gas.

In that game Vortix was under pressure after the small baneling attack on his natural, even if he didn't lose much he was forced to produce lings and spine, because he didn't know what Stephano was going to do afterward. Meanwhile Stephano was already transitioning (earlier gases, which meant earlier infestation pit as the casters pointed out and then faster 3rd). Faster 3rd which means more gas to produce hydras.

In summary if you're on an exact equal footing it can be risky to go hydra as they're very expensive, plus it's dangerous to attack with as they're so slow.

I think i'm not too far from the truth,

Hope Stephano wins this tournament, i was really worried after his recent losses in ZvZ but he seems to be ok with it atleast against foreigners


So if you know you playing against an aggressive opponent going Roach/Hydra is always a good idea? Even if it means less infestors?



No, infestors/roach > infestors/hydra
and only roaches > roach hydras
But hydra are a good boost when you already have 30-40 roaches to protect them. And a good economy, obviously.


That's wrong, only roaches is bad against roach hydra in a maxed situation. Excpet maybe of you are on a map that has no ramps and walls and can surround from every side.

Edit : And congrats Stephano =D Now go win this, ez.


Thats exactly what i said. We are talking about midgame situation, not late game 200 200. Hydras are good only when already maxed.


Hmm, ok, Thx for the advise:D Hope Stephano release some replays of this new style easier to copy then:D

Edit: Ok Stephano time to claim you rightful place. Just 2 more maps and Stephano is the European champion
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Oulawa
Profile Joined January 2012
26 Posts
September 16 2012 19:25 GMT
#10814
Just win this tournament, let the legend grow even more !
whereismymind
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 19:41:27
September 16 2012 19:40 GMT
#10815
If he will play with hydra, infestor, roach again it's easy win for him, since Vortix went 2 games roach infestor.. Auto lose.

GL and GG! May the better one win!
one day.. i'll lose my mind
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 20:03:05
September 16 2012 20:00 GMT
#10816
On September 17 2012 04:40 whereismymind wrote:
If he will play with hydra, infestor, roach again it's easy win for him, since Vortix went 2 games roach infestor.. Auto lose.

GL and GG! May the better one win!


vortix has a team and a brother to point that out too. maybe vortix will show something new.

hope Stephano play seriously.



edit :

soo cocky...stephano is such a baller.
LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
September 16 2012 20:23 GMT
#10817
that attack.
LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
whereismymind
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom717 Posts
September 16 2012 20:23 GMT
#10818
I don't understand that Vortix guy. Getting 3 loses same again and again.

gj stephano
one day.. i'll lose my mind
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
September 16 2012 20:23 GMT
#10819
--- Nuked ---
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
September 16 2012 20:44 GMT
#10820
The Spanish Armada floats on, for now..
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