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On June 07 2012 02:06 a3den wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 01:33 Benjamin99 wrote:
Actually you dont really know wtf you talking about do you? He is about to play in the biggest lan outside of korea where he got Alicia in pool play(MLG). Do you really think Stephano or his team want to prepare Alicia in some online cup that means nothing? Ofcourse not very smart move to not play it
And btw do you got a copy of Stephano´s contract? If not you should just be quite becuase you got no idea about his responsibilities
I definitively agree, playing Alicia before MLG would be the worst idea ever, tournaments are also about preparation and not giving away what your new stuff will be about.
is the 11min roach max still new for some players???
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On June 07 2012 06:07 Windwaker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 02:06 a3den wrote:On June 07 2012 01:33 Benjamin99 wrote:
Actually you dont really know wtf you talking about do you? He is about to play in the biggest lan outside of korea where he got Alicia in pool play(MLG). Do you really think Stephano or his team want to prepare Alicia in some online cup that means nothing? Ofcourse not very smart move to not play it
And btw do you got a copy of Stephano´s contract? If not you should just be quite becuase you got no idea about his responsibilities
I definitively agree, playing Alicia before MLG would be the worst idea ever, tournaments are also about preparation and not giving away what your new stuff will be about. is the 11min roach max still new for some players???
If you think thats the only think Stephano does in ZvP then you should take a good look at the matches in Redbull battleground vs Parting,MC,Squirtle and you will see a huge amount of different builds
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On June 07 2012 05:17 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 04:30 blackhole12 wrote:On June 07 2012 03:32 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On June 07 2012 03:17 MGN wrote: Naniwa and Elfi are not autist wtf. And anyway you don't know Stephanos life, what he shows us of his life is what he wants to show. No one can really know eachother's life Well, if he's able to show that he doesn't have social issues, then he clearly doesn't have them(i doubt anyone who does have the skill to hide his "social problems" wouldn't use it all time), i'm pretty sure Naniwa and Elfi would love to do such a thing, unfortunately they can't and thus they're autistic(since you can clearly see it, and don't start with the "they want to show that they're autistic" bullshit)... Are you a psychiatrist that personally knows Naniwa and Elfi? If not, shut up and stop armchair diagnosing people with autism just because they seem socially awkward to you. Autism is an actual thing and is not equivalent to acting awkward in public. This recent obsession on TL and reddit with calling Naniwa autistic has to stop, but starting to include Stephano in it is beyond ridiculous. Maybe Naniwa is, but it's not anyone's place to speculate about it, especially if one is generally misinformed. Yes, i'm a psychiatric...and i like to analyse some of the progamers' behavior. So, believe me, i'm pretty much sure that Naniwa has developed some kind of autism and being overly aggressive towards the "outside" is a further proof of it.
Like his old haircut was a clear proof that he liked Dragon Ball Z as a kid, amidoinitrite ? Oh, and Idra is autistic too I think, because he speaks his mind.
If you're not a troll, I think you should definitely meet real autists, because atm, you seem to have not a single shitty clue about what autism is really.
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On June 07 2012 05:17 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 04:30 blackhole12 wrote:On June 07 2012 03:32 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On June 07 2012 03:17 MGN wrote: Naniwa and Elfi are not autist wtf. And anyway you don't know Stephanos life, what he shows us of his life is what he wants to show. No one can really know eachother's life Well, if he's able to show that he doesn't have social issues, then he clearly doesn't have them(i doubt anyone who does have the skill to hide his "social problems" wouldn't use it all time), i'm pretty sure Naniwa and Elfi would love to do such a thing, unfortunately they can't and thus they're autistic(since you can clearly see it, and don't start with the "they want to show that they're autistic" bullshit)... Are you a psychiatrist that personally knows Naniwa and Elfi? If not, shut up and stop armchair diagnosing people with autism just because they seem socially awkward to you. Autism is an actual thing and is not equivalent to acting awkward in public. This recent obsession on TL and reddit with calling Naniwa autistic has to stop, but starting to include Stephano in it is beyond ridiculous. Maybe Naniwa is, but it's not anyone's place to speculate about it, especially if one is generally misinformed. Yes, i'm a psychiatric...and i like to analyse some of the progamers' behavior. So, believe me, i'm pretty much sure that Naniwa has developed some kind of autism and being overly aggressive towards the "outside" is a further proof of it.
rofl your a "psychiatric". Way to own yourself.
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On June 07 2012 06:21 Ph4ZeD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 05:17 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On June 07 2012 04:30 blackhole12 wrote:On June 07 2012 03:32 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On June 07 2012 03:17 MGN wrote: Naniwa and Elfi are not autist wtf. And anyway you don't know Stephanos life, what he shows us of his life is what he wants to show. No one can really know eachother's life Well, if he's able to show that he doesn't have social issues, then he clearly doesn't have them(i doubt anyone who does have the skill to hide his "social problems" wouldn't use it all time), i'm pretty sure Naniwa and Elfi would love to do such a thing, unfortunately they can't and thus they're autistic(since you can clearly see it, and don't start with the "they want to show that they're autistic" bullshit)... Are you a psychiatrist that personally knows Naniwa and Elfi? If not, shut up and stop armchair diagnosing people with autism just because they seem socially awkward to you. Autism is an actual thing and is not equivalent to acting awkward in public. This recent obsession on TL and reddit with calling Naniwa autistic has to stop, but starting to include Stephano in it is beyond ridiculous. Maybe Naniwa is, but it's not anyone's place to speculate about it, especially if one is generally misinformed. Yes, i'm a psychiatric...and i like to analyse some of the progamers' behavior. So, believe me, i'm pretty much sure that Naniwa has developed some kind of autism and being overly aggressive towards the "outside" is a further proof of it. rofl your a "psychiatric". Way to own yourself.
Oh, a man who's mother tongue isn't english mispelled a word? Is it possible?
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fun fact: Messi when he was a very young child showed some kinds of light autism symptoms. Doctors worried about this plus his growing issues, you know the end of the story.
The fact is that some people might show a gift to a verry specific thing and be verry smart but have issues with having normal social attitude (very self-focused, won't make the "first step", once you make a contact with him you have no difficulties to talk with him but he will mostly speak about him and won't ask you "what's happening" for exemple)
we all know someone who's a little bit like that, this is a very light autism tendency, for me it's not an insult.
Stephano is not an autist, but for everybody there's degree of autism, stephano's one might be higher than usual, that's my opinion.
I'm still one of his biggest fan and allways been aware of that fact, i knew him since WC3, then i was one of the first to remark a guy called Sat owning the ladder around October in 2010.
An other fact is that he's always been kind of rejected by the french progaming community (except by Millenium where he found friends like Kleenex and Yogo) because of his weirdness, and most of them were telling he was an autist before his success (even after).
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I am really interested to hopefully watch Stephano stream on the Korean server. As we all know the Korean server is at a higher level that EU and US, but I can see Stephano rising quite high in Grandmaster very quickly.
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On June 07 2012 07:05 gasmeter wrote: I am really interested to hopefully watch Stephano stream on the Korean server. As we all know the Korean server is at a higher level that EU and US, but I can see Stephano rising quite high in Grandmaster very quickly.
In December it took him 1 week to get top 10 on the korean GM ladder
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On June 07 2012 07:05 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 07:05 gasmeter wrote: I am really interested to hopefully watch Stephano stream on the Korean server. As we all know the Korean server is at a higher level that EU and US, but I can see Stephano rising quite high in Grandmaster very quickly. In December it took him 1 week to get top 10 on the korean GM ladder
With the best ratio of all the GM zergs
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On June 07 2012 06:21 Ph4ZeD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 05:17 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On June 07 2012 04:30 blackhole12 wrote:On June 07 2012 03:32 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On June 07 2012 03:17 MGN wrote: Naniwa and Elfi are not autist wtf. And anyway you don't know Stephanos life, what he shows us of his life is what he wants to show. No one can really know eachother's life Well, if he's able to show that he doesn't have social issues, then he clearly doesn't have them(i doubt anyone who does have the skill to hide his "social problems" wouldn't use it all time), i'm pretty sure Naniwa and Elfi would love to do such a thing, unfortunately they can't and thus they're autistic(since you can clearly see it, and don't start with the "they want to show that they're autistic" bullshit)... Are you a psychiatrist that personally knows Naniwa and Elfi? If not, shut up and stop armchair diagnosing people with autism just because they seem socially awkward to you. Autism is an actual thing and is not equivalent to acting awkward in public. This recent obsession on TL and reddit with calling Naniwa autistic has to stop, but starting to include Stephano in it is beyond ridiculous. Maybe Naniwa is, but it's not anyone's place to speculate about it, especially if one is generally misinformed. Yes, i'm a psychiatric...and i like to analyse some of the progamers' behavior. So, believe me, i'm pretty much sure that Naniwa has developed some kind of autism and being overly aggressive towards the "outside" is a further proof of it. rofl your a "psychiatric". Way to own yourself.
Oh shit, i owned myself by mispelling a word, i'm such a failure.
And to the others, i'm not really psychiatrist(ot however you spell it), i was just "trolling"...
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On June 07 2012 07:05 gasmeter wrote: I am really interested to hopefully watch Stephano stream on the Korean server. As we all know the Korean server is at a higher level that EU and US, but I can see Stephano rising quite high in Grandmaster very quickly.
You can watch the VODs of his time on Korean ladder in December. They are available on twitch. He has improved since then though.
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On June 07 2012 05:04 tragedy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 01:19 sereniity wrote:On June 06 2012 00:36 tragedy wrote:On June 05 2012 03:18 AIOL! wrote:Ok now i'm getting angry towards Stephano. He forfeited again vs Alicia in EG cup. He doesn't give a shit unless there's money somewhere. He doesn't care about his clan-wars, he's just a child. Last time he was vs Nerchio in ladder and the discution went like that: Stephano: I saw you loosed to naama in a recent cup  Nerchio: I saw Beastyqt beat you in a recent CW. Stephano: I didn't give a shit... no money :p He's a professionnal gamer and has a salary but he acts like a child (or a slighty autistic person). I'm stil a fan but a pissed off fan :'( So you probably go to pro poker players that play for thousands of dollars and shit talk them when they cant or don't want to focus for your 2cent/4cent homegame. His choice, if he is not breaking any contract with anyone, it is his choice. You are acting like a complete child, not him. That has to be one of the worst analogies I have ever heard... A poker player isn't obligated to go and play in ur silly homegame so how does it even make any sense? Stephano is a pro player, he's signed by a pro team and therefore has responsibilities, one of them is representing his team in team leagues. If he just plans on throwing that away because he wont get money out of it, then that's extremely unprofessional and immature. next time read my post instead of writing random crap. "if he is not breaking any contract with anyone". Just like poker players, he is not obliged to play in any of that crap. And if he was, you could make the same statement for poker players, since most of them represent some site (pokerstars, partypoker, whatever) and are sponsored by it. He is not throwing anything away, just like poker player are not throwing anything away when they don't care about your home game. Stop being a moron.
How can you compare a poker player not wanting to play at someones homegame to a team sending out one of their contracted players to a teamleague (and then that player doesn't care to play to his maximum potential because he wont get money out of it)? The thing is, Stephano got sent out to play the match and (according to the original quote) he didn't care about the match because there was no money involved for him. In your analogy, it's about a poker playing not even accepting the match in the first place, so he's not representing his sponsors, thus he doesn't put them in bad light (in Stephanos case, by not playing as good as he could).
If a team picks him as a player in a Teamleague and he doesn't even bother playing his best because he wont get any money out of it then that's very unprofessional, I don't see how you can argue with that.
Then again there's no point in arguing about that since the guy above kindly pointed out that the conversation didn't go anything like the guy from the original quote pointed out....
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On June 07 2012 07:29 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 07:05 gasmeter wrote: I am really interested to hopefully watch Stephano stream on the Korean server. As we all know the Korean server is at a higher level that EU and US, but I can see Stephano rising quite high in Grandmaster very quickly. You can watch the VODs of his time on Korean ladder in December. They are available on twitch. He has improved since then though.
Nice. I'll be getting them downloaded soon! Thanks for the heads up.
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On June 07 2012 07:38 gasmeter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 07:29 revel8 wrote:On June 07 2012 07:05 gasmeter wrote: I am really interested to hopefully watch Stephano stream on the Korean server. As we all know the Korean server is at a higher level that EU and US, but I can see Stephano rising quite high in Grandmaster very quickly. You can watch the VODs of his time on Korean ladder in December. They are available on twitch. He has improved since then though. Nice. I'll be getting them downloaded soon! Thanks for the heads up.
Some of the best games was against Bomber and Squirtle. He actually lost all his game to Squirtle so when he dominated him at Redbull I was abit supriced thought it would be much closer but hey I geuss Stephano got alot better since December
Ohh yea and the Leenock games was cool also
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On June 07 2012 07:38 gasmeter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 07:29 revel8 wrote:On June 07 2012 07:05 gasmeter wrote: I am really interested to hopefully watch Stephano stream on the Korean server. As we all know the Korean server is at a higher level that EU and US, but I can see Stephano rising quite high in Grandmaster very quickly. You can watch the VODs of his time on Korean ladder in December. They are available on twitch. He has improved since then though. Nice. I'll be getting them downloaded soon! Thanks for the heads up.
Here. The first one in Korea is on page 11, others on page 10 etc.
http://fr.twitch.tv/mstephano/videos?page=11
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On June 07 2012 07:36 sereniity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 05:04 tragedy wrote:On June 07 2012 01:19 sereniity wrote:On June 06 2012 00:36 tragedy wrote:On June 05 2012 03:18 AIOL! wrote:Ok now i'm getting angry towards Stephano. He forfeited again vs Alicia in EG cup. He doesn't give a shit unless there's money somewhere. He doesn't care about his clan-wars, he's just a child. Last time he was vs Nerchio in ladder and the discution went like that: Stephano: I saw you loosed to naama in a recent cup  Nerchio: I saw Beastyqt beat you in a recent CW. Stephano: I didn't give a shit... no money :p He's a professionnal gamer and has a salary but he acts like a child (or a slighty autistic person). I'm stil a fan but a pissed off fan :'( So you probably go to pro poker players that play for thousands of dollars and shit talk them when they cant or don't want to focus for your 2cent/4cent homegame. His choice, if he is not breaking any contract with anyone, it is his choice. You are acting like a complete child, not him. That has to be one of the worst analogies I have ever heard... A poker player isn't obligated to go and play in ur silly homegame so how does it even make any sense? Stephano is a pro player, he's signed by a pro team and therefore has responsibilities, one of them is representing his team in team leagues. If he just plans on throwing that away because he wont get money out of it, then that's extremely unprofessional and immature. next time read my post instead of writing random crap. "if he is not breaking any contract with anyone". Just like poker players, he is not obliged to play in any of that crap. And if he was, you could make the same statement for poker players, since most of them represent some site (pokerstars, partypoker, whatever) and are sponsored by it. He is not throwing anything away, just like poker player are not throwing anything away when they don't care about your home game. Stop being a moron. How can you compare a poker player not wanting to play at someones homegame to a team sending out one of their contracted players to a teamleague (and then that player doesn't care to play to his maximum potential because he wont get money out of it)? The thing is, Stephano got sent out to play the match and (according to the original quote) he didn't care about the match because there was no money involved for him. In your analogy, it's about a poker playing not even accepting the match in the first place, so he's not representing his sponsors, thus he doesn't put them in bad light (in Stephanos case, by not playing as good as he could). If a team picks him as a player in a Teamleague and he doesn't even bother playing his best because he wont get any money out of it then that's very unprofessional, I don't see how you can argue with that. Then again there's no point in arguing about that since the guy above kindly pointed out that the conversation didn't go anything like the guy from the original quote pointed out....
You can trust me it was very similar to this, i don't remember perfectly since it was 1 month ago but the discussion went exactly like that:
Stephano trolling Nerchio because he lost to Naama (naama even pm him at the end of the match to say it was not nice)
Nerchio trolling Stephano because he lost to Beastyqt in a CW
Stephano: that doesn't count... no money.
i remember because this is shocking.
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On June 07 2012 06:03 Damrak wrote: lol obsessing over someone being autistic seems to be a very... autistic trait.
ITT people that doesn't know anything about autism
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Who does give a shit if Stephano plays only for the money???
Seriously guys you are debating about if he is autist (who cares???), if he should play seriously for the clan wars...
He does what he wants to do and their is nothing to talk about whether or not he should do something.
Watching you debating for pages about something we all know is never gonna change (I totally understand him, I would do the same thing) makes me laugh.
That's video games!!! Not a big deal ( maybe he thinks that?).
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On June 07 2012 10:14 goldora wrote: Who does give a shit if Stephano plays only for the money???
15 year old boys who live with their parents.
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