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Poopi
France12904 Posts
I guess it's close to impossible to not drop a map as terran. Maybe now that he would have won as much titles as NesTea and that he keeps destroying him everytimes they met (I mean in official matches, of course in practice he wins a lot  ) people would realize that NesTea isn't the best player in the world? | ||
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Jagd
United States71 Posts
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1409 Posts
On September 05 2011 23:49 Poopi wrote: I'm a little bit disappointed that he lost to a baneling bust :/. I guess it's close to impossible to not drop a map as terran. Maybe now that he would have won as much titles as NesTea and that he keeps destroying him everytimes they met (I mean in official matches, of course in practice he wins a lot ) people would realize that NesTea isn't the best player in the world?NesTea doesn't play Terran = he automatically gets +10 extra credit points from Terran QQ'ers, which comprise 50+% (conservative estimate) of the Starcraft 2 populace. Doesn't matter if MVP wins 3 more GSL titles. Honestly, MVP and Bomber are just "Terrans" nowadays in the eyes of many - they just see the "Terran" first, and the player isn't even factored in unless he plays a super conservative macro game and doesn't push out until 200/200, and makes units from all three tech trees, with a majority of them being T3 units (read, battlecruisers). lol /(half)jk The half-kidding aside, the LR thread was fucking painful to read. Anyways, great play from MVP today. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On September 06 2011 00:59 Jagd wrote: But what are you supposed to do against the strategy of so many ghosts? Things July could've done: 1. Don't throw away like 12+ ultras for nothing. 2. Don't go infestor/broodlord after seeing like 13+ ghosts on the field. Muta/ling/bling works well enough. Just because you got the tech, doesn't mean you have to use it. 3. Keep your expansions alive. 4. Deny the terran expansions. Remember July's 200/200 bust at MVP's natural? If he had done that at his 3rd (orbital btw) and killed it, the game would've looked completely different. | ||
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Herculix
United States946 Posts
On September 05 2011 23:49 Poopi wrote: I'm a little bit disappointed that he lost to a baneling bust :/. I guess it's close to impossible to not drop a map as terran. Maybe now that he would have won as much titles as NesTea and that he keeps destroying him everytimes they met (I mean in official matches, of course in practice he wins a lot ) people would realize that NesTea isn't the best player in the world?it's weird because i think Nestea is still the best player in the world but he just cannot beat MVP. i'm always like ??? when people talk about MVP beating Nestea like it surprised or amazed them. the guy was 7-1 vs Nestea and after this season 9-1. i guess people just forget what they don't want to remember easily. at the same time, it's hard to call MVP the best because he's lost a lot to people he shouldn't. if MVP can be more consistent TvP and do what he did this season again, he could overcome Nestea. the thing that seperates MVP and Nestea is MVP OWNS Nestea but Nestea OWNS the entire world with his worst match up (ZvT, mostly because of MVP) never going below 65% and with an 80%+ winrate in his good match ups | ||
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ThE)ShoWTimE
Italy213 Posts
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iKlutz
United Kingdom42 Posts
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GMonster
686 Posts
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1409 Posts
On September 06 2011 04:20 GoKu` wrote: not even going to watch the finals. Top has absolutely no chance. With the way TOP played today, I wouldn't say that. MVP is the heavy favorite for sure, but I'm willing to bet that this finals will be closer in score than recent ones (akin to perhaps the GSL WC finals, where MVP beat MKP 4-2). | ||
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klops
United States674 Posts
On September 06 2011 04:20 GoKu` wrote: not even going to watch the finals. Top has absolutely no chance. on maps that favor marine tank over mech top shouldn't do too bad mvp's mech outclasses top's though which is why mvp will win...4-1 | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On September 06 2011 05:21 Qaatar wrote: With the way TOP played today, I wouldn't say that. MVP is the heavy favorite for sure, but I'm willing to bet that this finals will be closer in score than recent ones (akin to perhaps the GSL WC finals, where MVP beat MKP 4-2). I saw nothing from TOP's play yesterday that would indicate he has a chance against MVP unless his mech vs mech is significantly better than his mech vs bio. Great macro yes, but TOP's games suffered from tank lines spread too thin, exposed siege tanks, overextending attacks, missed timings and most noticeably poor multitasking. MVP will study TOP's games diligently and pick him apart. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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1409 Posts
On September 06 2011 06:34 red4ce wrote: I saw nothing from TOP's play yesterday that would indicate he has a chance against MVP unless his mech vs mech is significantly better than his mech vs bio. Great macro yes, but TOP's games suffered from tank lines spread too thin, exposed siege tanks, overextending attacks, missed timings and most noticeably poor multitasking. MVP will study TOP's games diligently and pick him apart. The TOP vs. Alive games in the group stages were interesting. The first game, TOP lost by not making ravens against Alive's marauder heavy composition, but won the second game with a nice tank contain and great defense against BFH. And honestly, other than the poor multi-tasking, I didn't really see those other problems in TOP's games; at the very least, overextending and missed timings have as much to do with Polt than anything else, since his sporadic tempo-based play forces those errors and missed opportunities. | ||
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Taug
United States146 Posts
edit: mvp wins 4-0, or 4-1 | ||
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Razuik
United States409 Posts
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Airship
United States465 Posts
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Razuik
United States409 Posts
On September 06 2011 07:55 Taug wrote: MAn I REALLY wanted to see MVP vs Polt, 2 GSL champs. It's not that top isn't good but he isnt POLT. Top throws away games a lot doing simple mistakes. When Polt played keen, it was amazing so to see him play MVP would be the next best thing. edit: mvp wins 4-0, or 4-1 Imo, MVP would just 4-0 polt if polt would get to the finals. Polt does a style that relies on mech to make a mistake. MVP almost never makes mistakes in TvT. This should be a pretty good finals for TvT lovers. | ||
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
As long as its not a JulyZerg baneling bust, anyways. | ||
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ENM_Alexb
United States129 Posts
On September 06 2011 06:46 mr_tolkien wrote: Congrats on your 3rd GSL MVP! Now head for the first consecutives 2! nestea already has that, if youre counting consecutive code s and not the super tourney in-between | ||
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StReEtWaLkeR
United States57 Posts
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