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On May 20 2011 18:43 dunc wrote: wow I'm going to need to go to Sweden this summer
We should make some kind of fanclub message to show him some support, get it printed out on some decent card and someone going to dreamhack can give it to him at the event or something.
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On May 18 2011 01:28 LemonyTang wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Ever the innovator, MarineKing demonstrating Terran burrow micro. (Joke courtesy of my friend!)
Hahahahaha! Did he lose? I'm sorry I'm laughing but omg I just love this kid! When was this?
Edit: But seriously, John, if you're reading this, tell him he's got to learn to stop wearing his heart on his sleeve (though this is prolly one of the things we love about him). He has to develop his win/lose postgame face! He said he envies MVP his nerves of steel and he is right about that.
And btw, yeah... take a look. FXOpen Invitational #3 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209657
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More MarineKing fanart, not sure if I should link the pictures here so I'll just link the site :o: http://xlithiumflowerx.deviantart.com/art/MarineKing-monochrome-190175687 http://xlithiumflowerx.deviantart.com/art/MarineKing-pink-nightmare-190156582
Hope he does well vs Squirtle and in Dreamhack!
On May 21 2011 20:36 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 18:43 dunc wrote: wow I'm going to need to go to Sweden this summer We should make some kind of fanclub message to show him some support, get it printed out on some decent card and someone going to dreamhack can give it to him at the event or something.
Yes! I'd go but I'm already on holiday by the time Dreamhack is going on :[ Sighhhhhhhhhh, I want his autograph so bad.
On May 22 2011 05:25 haruk wrote:Hahahahaha! Did he lose? I'm sorry I'm laughing but omg I just love this kid! When was this? Edit: But seriously, John, if you're reading this, tell him he's got to learn to stop wearing his heart on his sleeve (though this is prolly one of the things we love about him). He has to develop his win/lose postgame face! He said he envies MVP his nerves of steel and he is right about that. And btw, yeah... take a look. FXOpen Invitational #3 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209657
It was MarineKing vs DRG, ace match in Prime vs MVP and yes he lost :<
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He has been my favorite SC2 progamer ever since I watched him destroy fruitdealer in GSL S2. I really hope he does well in dreamhack and the superGSL, he deserves a major win.
On that note I was pretty disappointed he was ranked 10th on the Just desserts feature, I really think hes above July/MMA/bomber, probably deserves a spot around 5-6. I hope he lives up to my expectations.
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On May 23 2011 22:56 Disquiet wrote: He has been my favorite SC2 progamer ever since I watched him destroy fruitdealer in GSL S2. I really hope he does well in dreamhack and the superGSL, he deserves a major win.
On that note I was pretty disappointed he was ranked 10th on the Just desserts feature, I really think hes above July/MMA/bomber, probably deserves a spot around 5-6. I hope he lives up to my expectations.
He's easily #4(or #2 since the ranking of 1-3 is pretty retarded on that list as well and they should be tied if anything), I don't know what TL has against him but it's pretty disgusting. Same shit with the TSL, where he had better achievements than nearly every invite. MC/MVP both recognize him as an insane player, I'm pretty sure Bomber/July etc. can't say that even though I'm a fan of them both.
He's consistent and probably the most feared Terran after MVP and I have a feeling he'll be part of the elite four for a long time.
It also makes me angry people are trying to compare scFou to MarineKing.. Scfou vs Tester/Sanzenith are the most painful series I've watched with the most awful micro I have ever witnessed(barring Grubby vs Artosis), don't think it's fair to take away from such a consistent player by comparing new players to him all the time(like MMA and SC)
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The dessert ranking is retarded yes : Bomber 4th? Before such a statement he should have to prove himself in code S / super tournament (I am a fan of him as well and I considered him top 3-4 terran since december/january (now 3!)? after the ygosu and Jinro's thoughts but we have seen with LosirA that code A results should not be considered the same as code S results so it's hard to rate now). Even the top 3 is weird : tied because they three are 2times champion at least, but how can you put Mvp 2nd and MC 3rd when Mvp's TvP made him fell to code A whereas MC's PvT only made him fell to Up&Down (where he beat Ryung convincively, whereas Mvp still seems to struggle against like every protoss)? NesTea is the current champion and he doesn't seem to have a "really weak" match-up so #1 is fine. MMA #5 is a bit ridiculous (and I like MMA too but I feel that he has to prove himself in code S which I'm sure he'll be able to qualify) when terrans like NaDa who is consistent & solid in code S (GSTL is really not the same deal as GSL) are behind him. But anyways this ranking is probably not meant to be taken seriously. Oh and for MKP he is the best player who has not yet won a GSL tournament (from results) and I'm sure that MC fears him more than he fears Mvp. Btw I still don't know how he won against TT1 (fxopen invit 3 day 2 game 1!) with his "fly CC to the gold" strat.
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Even though I'm a huge fan of Nestea, MC has won every LAN he has attended and he looks a lot more dominant than Nestea. With the exception of the final.. nearly every game Nestea played this season could have gone either way. MC also won more than MVP so if they really feel the need to put people in rankings MC should be #1, MVP is considered the best player in the world(along with MC) by many whereas Nestea is only considered the best Zerg so MVP should be #2.
Bomber has been amazing for a long time but his televised matches haven't been too great before this Code A.. in fact last tournament(the Gainward) he got 2-0'd by MarineKing. MMA is FAR too overrated, so is Alicia. July/Nada are amazing and consistent but their results aren't on par with MarineKing's. I mean seriously, you think being in 3 out of 7 finals in the best tournament would solidify him as a top3/top4 player in the world but apparently people who have no results except for teamleague bo1s, and one season of doing well(Losira who looked awful this code S season, Alicia who is amazing but hasn't proven himself fully yet and Bomber who is also amazing but hasn't proven himself yet) are better than the only guy who can compete with the top3 players in a bo3/5/7.
edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225392¤tpage=15#293 very good post from that thread.. and so damn true
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And MKP is younger than all of the other top 10 in Just desserts article : MMA, Bomber, Alicia, July, NADA, Nestea are all 23 +; and MVP, MC are 20, Losira is 19.
MKP is only 17, will be 18 in two months. Who has the most potential? The answer is obvious....
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On May 24 2011 00:11 dunc wrote:Even though I'm a huge fan of Nestea, MC has won every LAN he has attended and he looks a lot more dominant than Nestea. With the exception of the final.. nearly every game Nestea played this season could have gone either way. MC also won more than MVP so if they really feel the need to put people in rankings MC should be #1, MVP is considered the best player in the world(along with MC) by many whereas Nestea is only considered the best Zerg so MVP should be #2. Bomber has been amazing for a long time but his televised matches haven't been too great before this Code A.. in fact last tournament(the Gainward) he got 2-0'd by MarineKing. MMA is FAR too overrated, so is Alicia. July/Nada are amazing and consistent but their results aren't on par with MarineKing's. I mean seriously, you think being in 3 out of 7 finals in the best tournament would solidify him as a top3/top4 player in the world but apparently people who have no results except for teamleague bo1s, and one season of doing well(Losira who looked awful this code S season, Alicia who is amazing but hasn't proven himself fully yet and Bomber who is also amazing but hasn't proven himself yet) are better than the only guy who can compete with the top3 players in a bo3/5/7. edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225392¤tpage=15#293 very good post from that thread.. and so damn true Yeah MarineKing should be #4 definitely. I think the top 5 would be 1. MC 2. NesTea 3. MVP 4. MarineKing 5. Bomber
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Who's excited for his game tomorrow? =D Just got my 'Maring King' T shirt in from thehandsomenerd =D
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Its a shame the MK has not been performing as well in recent GSL's Shame that
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On May 24 2011 00:30 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 00:11 dunc wrote:Even though I'm a huge fan of Nestea, MC has won every LAN he has attended and he looks a lot more dominant than Nestea. With the exception of the final.. nearly every game Nestea played this season could have gone either way. MC also won more than MVP so if they really feel the need to put people in rankings MC should be #1, MVP is considered the best player in the world(along with MC) by many whereas Nestea is only considered the best Zerg so MVP should be #2. Bomber has been amazing for a long time but his televised matches haven't been too great before this Code A.. in fact last tournament(the Gainward) he got 2-0'd by MarineKing. MMA is FAR too overrated, so is Alicia. July/Nada are amazing and consistent but their results aren't on par with MarineKing's. I mean seriously, you think being in 3 out of 7 finals in the best tournament would solidify him as a top3/top4 player in the world but apparently people who have no results except for teamleague bo1s, and one season of doing well(Losira who looked awful this code S season, Alicia who is amazing but hasn't proven himself fully yet and Bomber who is also amazing but hasn't proven himself yet) are better than the only guy who can compete with the top3 players in a bo3/5/7. edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225392¤tpage=15#293 very good post from that thread.. and so damn true Yeah MarineKing should be #4 definitely. I think the top 5 would be 1. MC 2. NesTea 3. MVP 4. MarineKing 5. Bomber
Yeah I agree with this.
To the poster above, he was in insane groups the last 2 seasons and I have no doubt he would have advanced if it was the old format(bo3) but yeah, bo1 anything can happen :[
Hopefully he'll do better now! Sure he'll manage to defeat Squirtle <3
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I can kind of see why MKP might be a bit undervalued given his last two Code S performances, as well as disappointing team leagues.
Hopefully he wins tomorrow; it's going to be the first GSL day in ages I can't catch live and it has to be when one of my favourite players is playing, silly meetings Fingers crossed that when I get home there's good results to read!
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People forget that a #2 finish is still better than everyone else that didn't finish #1. Nestea, MC, MVP all have 2 finals wins each but MKP has been in more finals than anyone (3). I really don't know how they could rank him #10, to me he's the undisputed 4th best player currently.
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People forgot pretty fast so they look at recent performances and overestimate BO1. I dunno even if MC fell to up&down I still see him as the best player/protoss. This season MKP's loss against Alicia was nothing to be ashamed of, he should have won against NaDa but I don't know how that suddenly make you 10th one month after your final lol. Anyways I'm excited to see him play, it'll be kind of difficult for him cuz he'll have to prepare for a lot of different MU (if FruitDealer wins) but he doesn't have too strong opponents until Mvp in RO4 due to his high seed. Btw I think that if he can beat Mvp (there will be less pressure cuz it'll not be final) he'll overcome his "forever 2nd" thingy and win the whole thing.
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There are many people who will never get the chance to be in the finals of the best SC2 league in the world.. MarineKing managed it three times. So yeah, he's proven himself. The powerrank TL made still makes me angry though :[
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im soooooooo in marine king forever
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Marineking alias Ellenpage is #1 on the korean ladder ( followed by ST_Bomber, a zerg and scFou !)
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On May 26 2011 17:03 disturbed69 wrote:Marineking alias Ellenpage is #1 on the korean ladder  ( followed by ST_Bomber, a zerg and scFou !) Any idea who the zerg is?
Also looking at the ladder, damn korea has so many good terrans, the top 20 is like 70% terran. I guess we can probably thank boxer, nada and flash for that, I'd imagine a lot of people are inspired to play terran by them.
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