EPTThat is just my opinion, I know other people think in different ways than I do, but hey-ho.
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yeaR
United Kingdom100 Posts
That is just my opinion, I know other people think in different ways than I do, but hey-ho. | ||
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furerkip
United States439 Posts
On May 03 2012 10:40 yeaR wrote: I think that this players vocabulary reflects his level of play and real life skills. I mean for an adult person to "act" in such a way is just irresponsible, and the fact that he argues against the consequences is just plain stupid. That is just my opinion, I know other people think in different ways than I do, but hey-ho. You're absolutely right, he's obviously trying to get into a fight knowing full well he's in the wrong. /sarcasm Does that even make sense to you? He's not retarded. He clearly thought he wasn't wrong, and therefore defended himself. He doesn't think he's acting irresponsible, regardless of what the actual decision by the mods came to. A lot more people were assholes to him on that thread than he was to them, anyways... being provoked and then not actually responding is rather close to impossible, if you're being baited by like 50 people for the exact same thing. And then lets look closely at this "action" of his: it wasn't actually displayed in the stream. In fact, it was a random game that OP had found that was never displayed to the public besides by that OP. His action's reporting weren't something he could control. That would require him to change his personality, which is much harder obviously than just changing how he was on stream. He's not irresponsible; people rage all the time. In fact, sometimes in a worse fashion. He unleashed this venting at a time he was probably positive the community would not see. If you mean he is ignorant of what others are going to do while he is venting, then I'd agree with you, but then that happens to everyone while venting (being unaware of the worst consequences). But that's primarily for the ban on TL. He says faggot wayyy too much, I concur if you meant on stream, he's always pissed on it... Not really as much fun anymore, I hope he gets a better attitude on the road because he's not a bad player at all. | ||
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GatorGar
Somalia77 Posts
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yeaR
United Kingdom100 Posts
On May 03 2012 11:04 furerkip wrote: You're absolutely right, he's obviously trying to get into a fight knowing full well he's in the wrong. /sarcasm Does that even make sense to you? He's not retarded. He clearly thought he wasn't wrong, and therefore defended himself. He doesn't think he's acting irresponsible, regardless of what the actual decision by the mods came to. A lot more people were assholes to him on that thread than he was to them, anyways... being provoked and then not actually responding is rather close to impossible, if you're being baited by like 50 people for the exact same thing. And then lets look closely at this "action" of his: it wasn't actually displayed in the stream. In fact, it was a random game that OP had found that was never displayed to the public besides by that OP. His action's reporting weren't something he could control. That would require him to change his personality, which is much harder obviously than just changing how he was on stream. He's not irresponsible; people rage all the time. In fact, sometimes in a worse fashion. He unleashed this venting at a time he was probably positive the community would not see. If you mean he is ignorant of what others are going to do while he is venting, then I'd agree with you, but then that happens to everyone while venting (being unaware of the worst consequences). But that's primarily for the ban on TL. He says faggot wayyy too much, I concur if you meant on stream, he's always pissed on it... Not really as much fun anymore, I hope he gets a better attitude on the road because he's not a bad player at all. As I said i'm only expressing my thoughts on the matter. If you are easily 'offended' by what I said, it shows that the people who 'defend' Destiny (or maybe just you), are childish and slightly narrow minded. | ||
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JoshuaGD
United States13 Posts
On May 03 2012 10:38 Plexa wrote: The situation involving destiny and whether is stream will be featured or defeatured during the ban is currently under discussion. I don't plan on disabling adblocking services or using TL to view streams until he's featured again, so if that is relevant to the decision at all I figure it should be mentioned. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I can't believe this. I've just lost a huge amount of faith in the community. For the record, I don't have anything against TL moderation. It's their site and they do what they want. I didn't like Destiny's ban, however I don't feel it wasn't justified (read the 10 commandments thing). This is TL's site, if they've had the success they've had up until now it's for a reason. As to what I think about the language, read here. It's beating a dead horse so you can skip it if you want. + Show Spoiler + For the record, I have absolutely no problem with Destiny's racial slurs. At the beginning, when he started using them, I felt that it was too much and I was put off by it. However, Destiny explained his arguments about the use of his language (here is a youtube video of Destiny having a discussion about this). I then started not minding, because Destiny's arguments made sense. I advise anyone who has a problem with Destiny's language to watch the video. If they're going to have such strong feelings about such a matter than they owe it to everyone to at least listen to a counter-argument. Not doing so is just fucking stale balderdash. Again, it shocks and appalls me that anyone would go so far just to hurt a player who hasn't done anything other than use "offensive" words. It's just incredibly stupid. Let's imagine that we had a homosexual SC2 pro player. Let's just imagine this. Anyone can be incredibly offensive to this player and personally attack him without using a single offensive word. I've put an example in spoilers just to express my point: + Show Spoiler + you little piece of dirt. you're a dog that's what you are, you and whoever you're with. going about, spreading diseases with your strangeness, it's un-natural, it's disgusting, that's all you are. i sincerely hope you and your kind die painful deaths from HIV, the less of you there are the better See what I did there? Not a single swear word was even used yet I said something much more offensive than Destiny has ever said on stream. Now let's take this example: http://i.imgur.com/y8F8n.jpg Imagine if instead, it had said "the absolute epitome of being a skill-less fucking fucking idiot, fuck off you dog" If that's what had been said there would have been none of this pointless drama, even though both of expressions mean the same thing. The one thing that annoys me is that no one is going to really change their mind of the issue, yet they're going to refuse to at least hear the other side of the argument. I don't want people to change their minds, I want people to agree to disagree. I'm pretty sure that no one who's faced Destiny on the ladder has gone off and killed themselves or broke down to tears after Destiny flamed them. What does disgust the shit out of me are all these hate-driven anti-fans. It absolutely blows my mind. The issue was really a trivial one, and internet white knights just blew things completely out of proportion. Completely out of proportion. I'm shocked and appalled that the community would do such a thing. If you dislike someone then just leave him be. I don't understand why you'd do anything else. Hating a player is against the very principle of esports. The goal here is watch games, be fan-boys, enjoy playing the game, having fun. I dislike Cruncher, that doesn't mean I go out and insult him every single turn I get. That doesn't mean I jump on an occasion I get to email his sponsor and taint his reputation. I was pissed off when he eliminated Idra and Mondragon with cheesy builds, I didn't' muck the forums because I was butt-hurt. I don't go on his stream and insult him. People who have that kind of behavior are basically taking a nice colorful shit on what esports represent. I'm glad TL moderates them. Furthermore, the community isn't here to police players or go on witch hunts. If a player is doing something that could be considered distasteful, the best thing to do is to just email the team (in private, with a calm and reasonable email). The absolute worst thing to do is post about and complain about publicly so that all the hateful idiots can rally around and muck up the forums for reasons that are iffy at best. If warden had a problem with Destiny he should have taken it up to Destiny or Quantic, not start this concentration of idiocy. Immature, that's what it was. Worst part is that I've learned a huge amount of stuff from Destiny, both about Zerg and other topics, yet I've never even heard of warden before this incident. I wonder who actually contributed more to the community? And this is how he's thanked. The worst part is that they didn't even harm Destiny as much as they hoped, but they nearly dealt huge, hurtful blows to Quantic (and all of the good players on Quantic's team). It's appalling. Appalling. I can't repeat this word enough because that's what this situation is. I expected something more intelligent from the community but apparently there's still this hateful part of it that does a lot of damage for almost no good, except provoking this dumb drama. Idra's rivalries are good drama, they interest people. This is fucking retarded. My respect for Destiny sky-rocketed when he left the team because it would be best for everyone. I'll continue to support him more than ever now. But the community just took a huge nose-dive in my esteem. | ||
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keeperton
United States233 Posts
On May 03 2012 11:37 GatorGar wrote: Why won't people just accept that watching Destiny's stream is like watching an episode of South Park. You watch it to be offended and sit mouth-agape at the horror. Destiny is a guy who is not afraid to tell the emperor he's not wearing any clothes, and a lot of us like that. Just label his stream as Adult Content with a racism/language/vulgar content warning, and be done with it. It does not warrant this much discussion. Do you actually think the entire audience of South Park or Steven's stream watch to be offended? I don't remember the last time I was offended by either's contents, but I'm not someone that can be offended by much anything short of a personal insult that only those that know me could even know to make. Silly assumption to make, imo. | ||
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
We should also attempt to notify the community when the stream goes live whenever and wherever possible. Don't worry Destiny, you will get through these dark times, you're true fans will never surrender! ........... ...................__ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( BROFIST ........... RESPECT. | ||
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Tanukki
Finland579 Posts
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
On May 04 2012 20:16 Tanukki wrote: Think he and own3d.tv (who is kind of sponsoring Destiny, too) would rather have some real viewers than loads of bots, lol. I understand if Quantic doesn't want him anymore, but this website unfeaturing him for 30 days? Who wins from that? They can't distinguish between if I am watching the open browser or not... As long as I don't turn off Adblock it's all good. It's not like I am telling people to open 15 streams at once LOL! | ||
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Asday
United Kingdom388 Posts
TL.net management is childish to unfeature Desti-G's stream. FILM AT 11. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Sweetea
United States2 Posts
No freedom of Speech on your OWN Stream, on your OWN stream, You have to say, Yes I"m 18, to view that Stream. How stupid can you even be? You kids are jokes, Go back to the sand boxes and play with your piss ant kiddy toys. All this bullshit I'm reading, If Idra never got banned this is just outrageous and I want you all to know, I hope you choke on that dick, I hope that high horse Breaks your fucking neck. Idra calls someone a fucker while 10k viewers watch and ITS OK, ITS ALRIGHT, we turn the other cheek, You guys make me sick, Its not the cursing, its not even the context of the cursing, Its that you guys can't even practice what you preach on Everyone, Go fuckyourselfs and have a nice morning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggdFHlm5O8 User was banned for this post. | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
On May 04 2012 20:37 Sweetea wrote: Eat a fucking dick TL wanna be big brother mods, Seriously. No freedom of Speech on your OWN Stream, on your OWN stream, You have to say, Yes I"m 18, to view that Stream. How stupid can you even be? You kids are jokes, Go back to the sand boxes and play with your piss ant kiddy toys. All this bullshit I'm reading, If Idra never got banned this is just outrageous and I want you all to know, I hope you choke on that dick, I hope that high horse Breaks your fucking neck. Idra calls someone a fucker while 10k viewers watch and ITS OK, ITS ALRIGHT, we turn the other cheek, You guys make me sick, Its not the cursing, its not even the context of the cursing, Its that you guys can't even practice what you preach on Everyone, Go fuckyourselfs and have a nice morning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggdFHlm5O8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggdFHlm5O8 User was banned for this post. Go call a black person a "nigger" in a public place and see what happens to you legal-wise, now try the same with "fucker". You can't compare the two. | ||
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GatorGar
Somalia77 Posts
TL is a fucking joke nowadays. This community is fucking shit. League of Legends here I come! User was banned for this post. | ||
Lip the Pencilboy
Italy420 Posts
being a destiny fan as a great source of entertainment I'm quite annoyed at all this drama. | ||
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Sweetea171
1 Post
On May 04 2012 21:03 NeonFox wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 04 2012 20:37 Sweetea wrote: Eat a fucking dick TL wanna be big brother mods, Seriously. No freedom of Speech on your OWN Stream, on your OWN stream, You have to say, Yes I"m 18, to view that Stream. How stupid can you even be? You kids are jokes, Go back to the sand boxes and play with your piss ant kiddy toys. All this bullshit I'm reading, If Idra never got banned this is just outrageous and I want you all to know, I hope you choke on that dick, I hope that high horse Breaks your fucking neck. Idra calls someone a fucker while 10k viewers watch and ITS OK, ITS ALRIGHT, we turn the other cheek, You guys make me sick, Its not the cursing, its not even the context of the cursing, Its that you guys can't even practice what you preach on Everyone, Go fuckyourselfs and have a nice morning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggdFHlm5O8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggdFHlm5O8 User was banned for this post. Go call a black person a "nigger" in a public place and see what happens to you legal-wise, now try the same with "fucker". You can't compare the two. I am black. The fact that you just expected me to be anything other than what I am, which is black. You are racist as shit. | ||
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Damrak
Netherlands124 Posts
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DawN883
Sweden558 Posts
I think that this players vocabulary reflects his level of play/QUOTE] How does his langauge reflect his skill? That is just a ridiculous statement | ||
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ABagOfFritos
Canada454 Posts
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DeathIncarna
United States29 Posts
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