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On August 14 2011 04:35 Klive5ive wrote: Huk just outplayed IdrA completely. He's just so much more refined in all aspects of his play.
One terrible engagement = outplayed.
Gtfo retard.
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On August 14 2011 04:38 MonsieurGrimm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:37 adeezy wrote: IdrA just hasn't been himself lately with his play, although I think there is some good things of his character that I've seen lately, definitely more manner/less complaints. But the important part is his play, you aren't a true IdrA fan if you think he is still at his best you also aren't a true idra fan if you stop being a fan because he's not at his best QFT. losing is to overrated lol, hope idra will learn from that match and deal with huk and toss in future events a lot better.
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Good Mannered Greg:
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GG ..
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On August 14 2011 04:35 Klive5ive wrote: Huk just outplayed IdrA completely. He's just so much more refined in all aspects of his play.
Again with the "lost = outplayed". I'm not even sure what Huk did that qualifies as playing. Turtled to 200/200 and attacked? No harass, nothing risky or creative, just a nexus-first into a 3-base deathball, while IdrA is playing his ass off.
Huk even let zerglings into his main, for god's sake.
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There is no reason to feel bad that Greg lost, he clearly isent getting enough or the right practice (or both maybe) while Huk is in Korea practicing with the best.
Instead of slandering Huk or anything, it just shows how much it means to grind your ass in Korea, afterall, its what IdrA himself did in BW for years, its how you get good.
I really hope one day we get both a Idra in Korea and Huk in Korea for long periods who practice and are at their absolute best, that would be a great series of matches.
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On August 14 2011 04:39 enecateReAP wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:35 Klive5ive wrote: Huk just outplayed IdrA completely. He's just so much more refined in all aspects of his play. LOL? You don't understand the game, HuK was floating 2K minerals at 16 minuets in game 2...and you say that he is refined? He is FAR from refined. 200/200 vs 200/200 and idra looses 100supply and Huk looses 25, such is ZvP. Don't make out HuK to be a better player because of one game, because he isn't, not even close.
As much as I've supported Idra, I really think Huk is getting to a decent skill level as well. Just my 2 cents.
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Since my stream spazzed out on the last engagement, can someone tell me what happened(all bias and whining aside) Was it a bad angle, or did he focus the hallucs or something? Huk had a lot of stuff left when my stream got on again ;o
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On August 14 2011 04:40 TUski wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:35 Klive5ive wrote: Huk just outplayed IdrA completely. He's just so much more refined in all aspects of his play. One terrible engagement = outplayed. Gtfo retard. u mad?
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On August 14 2011 04:42 Tyree wrote: There is no reason to feel bad that Greg lost, he clearly isent getting enough or the right practice (or both maybe) while Huk is in Korea practicing with the best.
Instead of slandering Huk or anything, it just shows how much it means to grind your ass in Korea, afterall, its what IdrA himself did in BW for years, its how you get good.
I really hope one day we get both a Idra in Korea and Huk in Korea for long periods who practice and are at their absolute best, that would be a great series of matches. more people should think the way you do
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On August 14 2011 04:42 p0lyph0ny wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:40 TUski wrote:On August 14 2011 04:35 Klive5ive wrote: Huk just outplayed IdrA completely. He's just so much more refined in all aspects of his play. One terrible engagement = outplayed. Gtfo retard. u mad? Y u here?
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On August 14 2011 04:42 p0lyph0ny wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:40 TUski wrote:On August 14 2011 04:35 Klive5ive wrote: Huk just outplayed IdrA completely. He's just so much more refined in all aspects of his play. One terrible engagement = outplayed. Gtfo retard. u mad?
That this thread is frequented by trolls like you every time Idra loses? Damn right I am.
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On August 14 2011 04:37 aFF.TEEN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:36 EternalSC wrote:On August 14 2011 04:35 Klive5ive wrote: Huk just outplayed IdrA completely. He's just so much more refined in all aspects of his play. True lies. Idra played perfectly, but Protoss op
lol
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On August 14 2011 04:40 TUski wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:35 Klive5ive wrote: Huk just outplayed IdrA completely. He's just so much more refined in all aspects of his play. One terrible engagement = outplayed. Gtfo retard.
Far from terrible, I'd even argue. A better argument would be that he made a mistake by not attacking when he was 200/200 against 150/200. Still far from a bulletproof claim though.
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On August 14 2011 04:43 MonsieurGrimm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:42 Tyree wrote: There is no reason to feel bad that Greg lost, he clearly isent getting enough or the right practice (or both maybe) while Huk is in Korea practicing with the best.
Instead of slandering Huk or anything, it just shows how much it means to grind your ass in Korea, afterall, its what IdrA himself did in BW for years, its how you get good.
I really hope one day we get both a Idra in Korea and Huk in Korea for long periods who practice and are at their absolute best, that would be a great series of matches. more people should think the way you do
Yeah. I'd love to see these guys face off in a series after both have a few months of heavy practice. It'd be crazy fun.
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to all who said huk outplayed idra and so on, what did huk do that was much better than idrA in game 2? becausing taking nexus first and then third and getting maxed and 1a's to idra's base(exception of blinking with his stalkers)
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I think idra said on ITG or something that we shouldn't expect him to win anything before hots. I guess i should stop having such high expectations for idra before because i will only get dissapointed.
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On August 14 2011 04:47 skrotcyk wrote: to all who said huk outplayed idra and so on, what did huk do that was much better than idrA in game 2? becausing taking nexus first and then third and getting maxed and 1a's to idra's base(exception of blinking with his stalkers) Isn't that the same thing that Idra did in the game?
Take two quick bases and drone up? They both sent small forces out back and forth. It was a very passive game from both players. I don't think either of them played their best in that series.
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edit: I wanted this in LR thread -_- not here
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On August 14 2011 04:42 Aocowns wrote: Since my stream spazzed out on the last engagement, can someone tell me what happened(all bias and whining aside) Was it a bad angle, or did he focus the hallucs or something? Huk had a lot of stuff left when my stream got on again ;o
Huk blinked his stalkers forward right away before they could get fungal'ed, and had them on shift-attack circle through all of the broodlords. In the meantime, the broodlings were not doing as much damage because the stalkers were right next to the roaches and the collosus AoE which was killing roaches was frying broodlings at the same time. Also, when the stalkers blinked forward it seems Idra was afraid his infestors would die and moved them back but kinda forgot about a couple in a very important moment of the battle - when they came in with still lots of energy left it was already too late to save the broodlords and roaches. And finally no neural parasite used either :/ Overall I'd say slightly superior micro from Huk during the battle, but also bad positioning for Idra - he had the Infestors way too far in the back and thus wasnt able to get any neurals or good fungals off when he needed them, and no flanking either even though there was a good attack space below huk's army if I recall correctly, from which he could have flanked with 12 or so roaches protecting 2-3 infestors to do lots of damage with neural, or a few broodlords maybe
Aaaand also very important - Huk's upgrades were very good compared to for instance TT1's at the time in a similar game in the earlyer rounds. 3 / 3 and even 1 shield upgrade finished already
edit: the Void Ray Hallucinations were pretty much completely ignored I think as Idra didnt have anything to shoot air units with anyways, maybe one Corruptor took a few shots at them, but I didnt see any infestted terrans shooting at them
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On August 14 2011 04:52 bgx wrote: well idra played like idiot there, fast broodlors , into 10 minute camp and losing, i wonder what he had in mind, he started researching drop in late late game so he couldnt be aggresive and he wasnt aggresive at all, he let HuK blink underneath his Bls few times
he microed his units poorly, he lost 4 BLs for nothing (no map awarness), too many roaches (and going melee upgrades, should have sacrifaced them\drop)
morrow picked apart HuK style, Idra has no idea how to play modern zvp and dont have mechanics to do so nowadays. there was nothing flawless in his play, watch other zergs I agree, I think it's just because he's in America now. I don't care if he practices fricking 14 hours a day with the likes of incontrol and the rest of EG. I would even argue that it might hinder his play... Should have stayed in Korea. GG though
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