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Zingerac
Profile Joined July 2010
United States138 Posts
April 29 2011 04:08 GMT
#8901
On April 29 2011 12:58 integrity wrote:
oh god i have to work that Tuesday. D=

Open up the stream before you go to work, and just leave it on while you're working.
So basically the difference between me and deezer is that I don't need to look at his stream to know what hes doing- Liquid'Ret
Pokedude1013
Profile Joined August 2010
116 Posts
April 29 2011 04:18 GMT
#8902
Doo eet
WE MUST DO THIS
we must help IdrA get all his drinks paid for by someone else
Get out
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
April 29 2011 04:46 GMT
#8903
On April 29 2011 13:18 Pokedude1013 wrote:
Doo eet
WE MUST DO THIS
we must help IdrA get all his drinks paid for by someone else



what im more interested in is his analysis and thought processes when he is playing
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
April 29 2011 06:28 GMT
#8904
On April 29 2011 12:58 integrity wrote:
oh god i have to work that Tuesday. D=



Just leave the stream on and open.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Himbeer
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland176 Posts
April 29 2011 07:26 GMT
#8905
Leaving stream on and open - will do that =)
Pokedude1013
Profile Joined August 2010
116 Posts
April 29 2011 07:44 GMT
#8906
On April 29 2011 13:46 integrity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 13:18 Pokedude1013 wrote:
Doo eet
WE MUST DO THIS
we must help IdrA get all his drinks paid for by someone else



what im more interested in is his analysis and thought processes when he is playing


Well obviously but to do that we have to get him the free drinks
Get out
Drxz
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia115 Posts
April 29 2011 08:19 GMT
#8907
On April 29 2011 16:44 Pokedude1013 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 13:46 integrity wrote:
On April 29 2011 13:18 Pokedude1013 wrote:
Doo eet
WE MUST DO THIS
we must help IdrA get all his drinks paid for by someone else



what im more interested in is his analysis and thought processes when he is playing


Well obviously but to do that we have to get him the free drinks


I think IdrA should stream his night out with JP (or at least make a VOD of it)
Luck is oftentimes greater than skill
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
April 29 2011 09:20 GMT
#8908
On April 29 2011 12:10 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 12:03 Redmark wrote:
That's great that he has an opinion and all, but at some point as a pro you've got to just play to win. That's the whole point of competition. I'm sure Idra realizes this too. Whatever he thinks is the correct way to play is secondary to what wins (consistently).
I'd certainly rather see Idra doing well than try to bend the game to his will or whatever.


well he is doing what he has to win. have you seen his recent pvz games? he rarely aims for a long game now.


This actually makes me really sad. Not that he's winning, but how he's forced to do it. I guess that's just the way the game goes. It's really very sad to see one of the best macro players in the world reduced to early all ins, but you've got to do it to beat any good players like Socke.
Calasmere
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom161 Posts
April 29 2011 10:01 GMT
#8909
On April 29 2011 18:20 Indrium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 12:10 Whole wrote:
On April 29 2011 12:03 Redmark wrote:
That's great that he has an opinion and all, but at some point as a pro you've got to just play to win. That's the whole point of competition. I'm sure Idra realizes this too. Whatever he thinks is the correct way to play is secondary to what wins (consistently).
I'd certainly rather see Idra doing well than try to bend the game to his will or whatever.


well he is doing what he has to win. have you seen his recent pvz games? he rarely aims for a long game now.


This actually makes me really sad. Not that he's winning, but how he's forced to do it. I guess that's just the way the game goes. It's really very sad to see one of the best macro players in the world reduced to early all ins, but you've got to do it to beat any good players like Socke.

Not really. Remember that long game against HuK with the hallucinations? Sure, he 'lost' it, but he had already won the game and just got pissed off by the smart bluff of HuK. Filled with harassment and ripping him in two. Same for a recent game against Cruncher.

I don't think he really tries against unknown Protoss players on ladder.
Frozenserpent
Profile Joined September 2007
United States143 Posts
April 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#8910
On April 29 2011 18:20 Indrium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 12:10 Whole wrote:
On April 29 2011 12:03 Redmark wrote:
That's great that he has an opinion and all, but at some point as a pro you've got to just play to win. That's the whole point of competition. I'm sure Idra realizes this too. Whatever he thinks is the correct way to play is secondary to what wins (consistently).
I'd certainly rather see Idra doing well than try to bend the game to his will or whatever.


well he is doing what he has to win. have you seen his recent pvz games? he rarely aims for a long game now.


This actually makes me really sad. Not that he's winning, but how he's forced to do it. I guess that's just the way the game goes. It's really very sad to see one of the best macro players in the world reduced to early all ins, but you've got to do it to beat any good players like Socke.


It's still not a "solved" matchup by any means, anyways, but... there's still potential. After all, it's simpler to develop an all-in than a whole gameplan that involves constantly trading units throughout the game.

Spoiler from IPL:
For example, look at Idra versus Kiwikaki game 2. Some zergs have argued that the drop play was all-in. Fast drop play does tend to be all-in, especially in the past, but I wouldn't consider that to be very all-in ish at all. The first drop, he lost a lot of units, did little dmg, and still managed to pull it off in the long-term, anyways. True, he got lucky to get a couple of units snipe a colossus for little cost, but... it's feasible to expect at least a certain amount of dmg from play. Even if protoss responds well and minimizes loss, there will be units he's losing.
So imagine idra's roach drop play forcing trades with protoss as he's spread thinly to defend all bases. Meanwhile, idra can drone up behind that (which he did in that game), build up an army, and slowly tech to infestors, slowly tech to broodlords. With low colossus numbers, infestors are quite good.
So that's a potential way the MU might turn out and not be dumb. Is this hard for the zerg to pull off? You bet. It's not easy to do, and it's not easy to develop, but i think there's potential in idra to be a pioneer in zvp.
UnholyGregor
Profile Joined January 2011
111 Posts
April 29 2011 10:41 GMT
#8911
anyone got a link to vods or replays of idra vs kiwikaki, i cant find the videos anywhere
EG fighting
RuneZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark90 Posts
April 29 2011 10:46 GMT
#8912
On April 29 2011 19:41 UnholyGregor wrote:
anyone got a link to vods or replays of idra vs kiwikaki, i cant find the videos anywhere


cant find them on IGN homepage either, think perhaps they just arent added yet
Vidoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland10 Posts
April 29 2011 10:59 GMT
#8913
On April 29 2011 07:36 Woony wrote:
SOTG as at like 5 am in europe so 20k is going to be hard.

Tune in in the morning :D like 6-7am still running so ^^ used to watch the end of sotg before school lol
Tronny
Profile Joined April 2011
1 Post
April 29 2011 14:16 GMT
#8914
Hi Idra fans :D

I accidently saw a poster of the movie "Extrem Rage" starring Vin Diesel
and i think it perfectly suits our beloved raging zerg. Hope you like it!

[image loading]
SENKi
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland52 Posts
April 29 2011 14:41 GMT
#8915
Why ign did not saved up the game vs kiwicocky?
congrats on lpaying protoss
fahid
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal46 Posts
April 29 2011 14:49 GMT
#8916
those games against kiwi were really well played and it shows that greg has worked hard to solve some of his troubles against protoss. he deserves free drinks so lets get that 20k for him =)
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
April 29 2011 17:06 GMT
#8917
IdrA currently head-on-head with Nestea in the Who is the Zerg-King? thread here on TL.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
April 29 2011 17:08 GMT
#8918
http://www.ign.com/ipl/starcraft2/matches/23-rootkiwikaki-egidra
If you go here and jump to the end it loads the series from game2 (misses game1).

I'm sure they'll sort it out eventually but if you can't wait that long use that solution.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Tarbosh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States127 Posts
April 29 2011 17:21 GMT
#8919
On April 30 2011 02:08 Klive5ive wrote:
http://www.ign.com/ipl/starcraft2/matches/23-rootkiwikaki-egidra
If you go here and jump to the end it loads the series from game2 (misses game1).

I'm sure they'll sort it out eventually but if you can't wait that long use that solution.



Thanks, I've been waiting to watch these games.
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
April 29 2011 17:26 GMT
#8920
I'm loving IdrA's new ZvP style. It's like watching Mondragon but with better mechanics.
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