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mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
September 20 2012 01:09 GMT
#51401
On September 20 2012 09:37 Mr Showtime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 09:19 mambar wrote:
On September 20 2012 05:37 Mr Showtime wrote:
On September 20 2012 05:15 Louroux wrote:
come on guys, vote IdrA. and who the hell voted for Scarlett?


That would be me. I'll say it again, she's the best player in NA. Why the fuck wouldn't I vote for her?

And yes, I understand that my vote for her is currently working against Greg's chances of being top 2, but at the time I voted Sen wasn't even in contention for top 2. Even then, Scarlett and Sen are the two best players in that list, so the results aren't all that surprising.

no


Instead of an abrupt 'no,' care to share your opinion?

no
shadowboxer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States224 Posts
September 20 2012 01:13 GMT
#51402
On September 20 2012 10:09 mambar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 09:37 Mr Showtime wrote:
On September 20 2012 09:19 mambar wrote:
On September 20 2012 05:37 Mr Showtime wrote:
On September 20 2012 05:15 Louroux wrote:
come on guys, vote IdrA. and who the hell voted for Scarlett?


That would be me. I'll say it again, she's the best player in NA. Why the fuck wouldn't I vote for her?

And yes, I understand that my vote for her is currently working against Greg's chances of being top 2, but at the time I voted Sen wasn't even in contention for top 2. Even then, Scarlett and Sen are the two best players in that list, so the results aren't all that surprising.

no


Instead of an abrupt 'no,' care to share your opinion?

no


Has Sen actually been playing this game at all? I like the guy a lot, but I figured he was going to retire soon like Jinro and Haypro considering I haven't seen him in a relevant tournament in probably half a year. I know he's good enough when he's in shape, but damn, he's definitely not as good as idra is at the moment.

On topic, Scarlett admires Idra a lot, so you'd be voting for someone Scarlett considers a legitimate contender.
"Hear that? That's God laughing at your plans."
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
September 20 2012 01:33 GMT
#51403
On September 20 2012 10:13 shadowboxer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 10:09 mambar wrote:
On September 20 2012 09:37 Mr Showtime wrote:
On September 20 2012 09:19 mambar wrote:
On September 20 2012 05:37 Mr Showtime wrote:
On September 20 2012 05:15 Louroux wrote:
come on guys, vote IdrA. and who the hell voted for Scarlett?


That would be me. I'll say it again, she's the best player in NA. Why the fuck wouldn't I vote for her?

And yes, I understand that my vote for her is currently working against Greg's chances of being top 2, but at the time I voted Sen wasn't even in contention for top 2. Even then, Scarlett and Sen are the two best players in that list, so the results aren't all that surprising.

no


Instead of an abrupt 'no,' care to share your opinion?

no


Has Sen actually been playing this game at all? I like the guy a lot, but I figured he was going to retire soon like Jinro and Haypro considering I haven't seen him in a relevant tournament in probably half a year. I know he's good enough when he's in shape, but damn, he's definitely not as good as idra is at the moment.

On topic, Scarlett admires Idra a lot, so you'd be voting for someone Scarlett considers a legitimate contender.


hes done some things this year (not the last month thou (that I know of))

1st 07-21-2012 World Championship Series Taiwan
9tht 07-15-2012 NASL Season 3 Regular Season Wins
2nd 06-17-2012 StarsWar
1st04-29-2012 NASL Sunday Showdown #9
1st 04-22-2012 NASL Sunday Showdown #1
liquidoa
Profile Joined December 2010
82 Posts
September 20 2012 03:22 GMT
#51404
On September 20 2012 10:13 shadowboxer wrote:
On topic, Scarlett admires Idra a lot, so you'd be voting for someone Scarlett considers a legitimate contender.


I don't think Scarlett admires IdrA because of his skill - she most likely likes him because he is popular, successful, good-looking and has money. Or maybe she just says she likes him because she is hoping to be acquired by EG in the future.

But either way, everyone should vote for IdrA!
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
September 20 2012 06:39 GMT
#51405
On September 20 2012 10:13 shadowboxer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 10:09 mambar wrote:
On September 20 2012 09:37 Mr Showtime wrote:
On September 20 2012 09:19 mambar wrote:
On September 20 2012 05:37 Mr Showtime wrote:
On September 20 2012 05:15 Louroux wrote:
come on guys, vote IdrA. and who the hell voted for Scarlett?


That would be me. I'll say it again, she's the best player in NA. Why the fuck wouldn't I vote for her?

And yes, I understand that my vote for her is currently working against Greg's chances of being top 2, but at the time I voted Sen wasn't even in contention for top 2. Even then, Scarlett and Sen are the two best players in that list, so the results aren't all that surprising.

no


Instead of an abrupt 'no,' care to share your opinion?

no


Has Sen actually been playing this game at all? I like the guy a lot, but I figured he was going to retire soon like Jinro and Haypro considering I haven't seen him in a relevant tournament in probably half a year. I know he's good enough when he's in shape, but damn, he's definitely not as good as idra is at the moment.

On topic, Scarlett admires Idra a lot, so you'd be voting for someone Scarlett considers a legitimate contender.

yes he has, watch his stream.
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 20 2012 06:54 GMT
#51406
On September 20 2012 10:04 HaZardous47 wrote:
We can't let Sen win this. There are a good 20 other players far more deserving than he on there. get your votes for IdrA in! c'mon!

http://polldaddy.com/poll/6541431/

Are you serious? Who exactly is more deserving than Sen, a player with a great career in both BW and SC2?
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 07:07:53
September 20 2012 07:06 GMT
#51407
On September 20 2012 15:54 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 10:04 HaZardous47 wrote:
We can't let Sen win this. There are a good 20 other players far more deserving than he on there. get your votes for IdrA in! c'mon!

http://polldaddy.com/poll/6541431/

Are you serious? Who exactly is more deserving than Sen, a player with a great career in both BW and SC2?


Edited because I just read the initial qoute. There certainly is not 20 more deserving.

You can make a case for both Sen or IdrA, but diminishing Sen that much is just blatantly absurd.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
September 20 2012 07:06 GMT
#51408
As much as I love IdrA I'd prefer to see Sen there. Sen goes to school and makes more than enough money off the TeSL so he doesn't travel much. His skill level is ridiculous, even IdrA would tell you Sen is among the top couple foreign Zergs.
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
September 20 2012 07:09 GMT
#51409
On September 20 2012 16:06 schmutttt wrote:
As much as I love IdrA I'd prefer to see Sen there. Sen goes to school and makes more than enough money off the TeSL so he doesn't travel much. His skill level is ridiculous, even IdrA would tell you Sen is among the top couple foreign Zergs.


People keep saying that and yet there aren't results to back up this ridiculous skill level.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
September 20 2012 07:18 GMT
#51410
On September 20 2012 16:09 walklightwhat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 16:06 schmutttt wrote:
As much as I love IdrA I'd prefer to see Sen there. Sen goes to school and makes more than enough money off the TeSL so he doesn't travel much. His skill level is ridiculous, even IdrA would tell you Sen is among the top couple foreign Zergs.


People keep saying that and yet there aren't results to back up this ridiculous skill level.

he does have results, winning WCS Taiwan with dropping a game. there is a lack of tournaments in asia. GM on korea which most foreigners cant reach.
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
September 20 2012 07:21 GMT
#51411
On September 20 2012 16:18 ThePlayer33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 16:09 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:06 schmutttt wrote:
As much as I love IdrA I'd prefer to see Sen there. Sen goes to school and makes more than enough money off the TeSL so he doesn't travel much. His skill level is ridiculous, even IdrA would tell you Sen is among the top couple foreign Zergs.


People keep saying that and yet there aren't results to back up this ridiculous skill level.

he does have results, winning WCS Taiwan with dropping a game. there is a lack of tournaments in asia. GM on korea which most foreigners cant reach.


No, read my earlier post.

His results are like an exact, if smaller sample, replica of IdrA's. Beating bad players, losing to the best Koreans, dropping games to people he shouldn't and with the occasional series win thrown in.

Sen is awesome at his best, but like I said once, evidence he'd be any more likely to beat an excellent Korean in the World Championships is non-existant.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
September 20 2012 07:24 GMT
#51412
Can you stop arguing about Sen now? All claims of type X>Y are ridiculous and this is no different. Just leave it.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
September 20 2012 07:25 GMT
#51413
On September 20 2012 16:24 Ghanburighan wrote:
Can you stop arguing about Sen now? All claims of type X>Y are ridiculous and this is no different. Just leave it.


Sorry. Forgot the thread I was in for a second.
Fortii
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany760 Posts
September 20 2012 07:50 GMT
#51414
idraa woohooo
IdrA!
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
September 20 2012 08:00 GMT
#51415
On September 20 2012 16:21 walklightwhat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 16:18 ThePlayer33 wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:09 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:06 schmutttt wrote:
As much as I love IdrA I'd prefer to see Sen there. Sen goes to school and makes more than enough money off the TeSL so he doesn't travel much. His skill level is ridiculous, even IdrA would tell you Sen is among the top couple foreign Zergs.


People keep saying that and yet there aren't results to back up this ridiculous skill level.

he does have results, winning WCS Taiwan with dropping a game. there is a lack of tournaments in asia. GM on korea which most foreigners cant reach.


No, read my earlier post.

His results are like an exact, if smaller sample, replica of IdrA's. Beating bad players, losing to the best Koreans, dropping games to people he shouldn't and with the occasional series win thrown in.

Sen is awesome at his best, but like I said once, evidence he'd be any more likely to beat an excellent Korean in the World Championships is non-existant.

sen did beat byun and MMA in bo7s recently. I was arguing for Sen over any other NA player except idra
the beating bad players thing apply to scarlett, though she hasn't participated in many big events at all, so she hasn't had a chance to play koreans.

foreigners aren't playing well right now anyway(no stephano) given the recent MLG(the most recent korean vs foreigner tourney)you have nerchio and maybe Vortix who played a few koreans during their runs. placing Sen with these guys doesn't mean that much.

at their peak no foreigner except stephano/huk/jinro/naniwa even come close to greg.

id call idra and sen old dogs
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
September 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#51416
On September 20 2012 17:00 ThePlayer33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 16:21 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:18 ThePlayer33 wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:09 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:06 schmutttt wrote:
As much as I love IdrA I'd prefer to see Sen there. Sen goes to school and makes more than enough money off the TeSL so he doesn't travel much. His skill level is ridiculous, even IdrA would tell you Sen is among the top couple foreign Zergs.


People keep saying that and yet there aren't results to back up this ridiculous skill level.

he does have results, winning WCS Taiwan with dropping a game. there is a lack of tournaments in asia. GM on korea which most foreigners cant reach.


No, read my earlier post.

His results are like an exact, if smaller sample, replica of IdrA's. Beating bad players, losing to the best Koreans, dropping games to people he shouldn't and with the occasional series win thrown in.

Sen is awesome at his best, but like I said once, evidence he'd be any more likely to beat an excellent Korean in the World Championships is non-existant.

sen did beat byun and MMA in bo7s recently. I was arguing for Sen over any other NA player except idra
the beating bad players thing apply to scarlett, though she hasn't participated in many big events at all, so she hasn't had a chance to play koreans.

foreigners aren't playing well right now anyway(no stephano) given the recent MLG(the most recent korean vs foreigner tourney)you have nerchio and maybe Vortix who played a few koreans during their runs. placing Sen with these guys doesn't mean that much.

at their peak no foreigner except stephano/huk/jinro/naniwa even come close to greg.

id call idra and sen old dogs


Seems like we were arguing the same point from different angles. IT'S ALL LOVE AGAIN.
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
September 20 2012 09:05 GMT
#51417
On September 20 2012 17:00 ThePlayer33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 16:21 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:18 ThePlayer33 wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:09 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:06 schmutttt wrote:
As much as I love IdrA I'd prefer to see Sen there. Sen goes to school and makes more than enough money off the TeSL so he doesn't travel much. His skill level is ridiculous, even IdrA would tell you Sen is among the top couple foreign Zergs.


People keep saying that and yet there aren't results to back up this ridiculous skill level.

he does have results, winning WCS Taiwan with dropping a game. there is a lack of tournaments in asia. GM on korea which most foreigners cant reach.


No, read my earlier post.

His results are like an exact, if smaller sample, replica of IdrA's. Beating bad players, losing to the best Koreans, dropping games to people he shouldn't and with the occasional series win thrown in.

Sen is awesome at his best, but like I said once, evidence he'd be any more likely to beat an excellent Korean in the World Championships is non-existant.

sen did beat byun and MMA in bo7s recently. I was arguing for Sen over any other NA player except idra
the beating bad players thing apply to scarlett, though she hasn't participated in many big events at all, so she hasn't had a chance to play koreans.

foreigners aren't playing well right now anyway(no stephano) given the recent MLG(the most recent korean vs foreigner tourney)you have nerchio and maybe Vortix who played a few koreans during their runs. placing Sen with these guys doesn't mean that much.

at their peak no foreigner except stephano/huk/jinro/naniwa even come close to greg.

id call idra and sen old dogs


man, you fanboys are deluded...

Sen is definitely more deserving than idra, if you mean skill peak that's sad for idra because he has about a 30% winrate in 2012 so his peak was 1 year ago the least, and sen beat some top class koreans/foreigners in 2012

there are like 100 players better than idra. i get it that you're fans but dont be ridiculous. i like him too but try to think objectively just for a second



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Sqorpion
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark384 Posts
September 20 2012 09:49 GMT
#51418
On September 20 2012 18:05 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 17:00 ThePlayer33 wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:21 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:18 ThePlayer33 wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:09 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:06 schmutttt wrote:
As much as I love IdrA I'd prefer to see Sen there. Sen goes to school and makes more than enough money off the TeSL so he doesn't travel much. His skill level is ridiculous, even IdrA would tell you Sen is among the top couple foreign Zergs.


People keep saying that and yet there aren't results to back up this ridiculous skill level.

he does have results, winning WCS Taiwan with dropping a game. there is a lack of tournaments in asia. GM on korea which most foreigners cant reach.


No, read my earlier post.

His results are like an exact, if smaller sample, replica of IdrA's. Beating bad players, losing to the best Koreans, dropping games to people he shouldn't and with the occasional series win thrown in.

Sen is awesome at his best, but like I said once, evidence he'd be any more likely to beat an excellent Korean in the World Championships is non-existant.

sen did beat byun and MMA in bo7s recently. I was arguing for Sen over any other NA player except idra
the beating bad players thing apply to scarlett, though she hasn't participated in many big events at all, so she hasn't had a chance to play koreans.

foreigners aren't playing well right now anyway(no stephano) given the recent MLG(the most recent korean vs foreigner tourney)you have nerchio and maybe Vortix who played a few koreans during their runs. placing Sen with these guys doesn't mean that much.

at their peak no foreigner except stephano/huk/jinro/naniwa even come close to greg.

id call idra and sen old dogs


man, you fanboys are deluded...

Sen is definitely more deserving than idra, if you mean skill peak that's sad for idra because he has about a 30% winrate in 2012 so his peak was 1 year ago the least, and sen beat some top class koreans/foreigners in 2012

there are like 100 players better than idra. i get it that you're fans but dont be ridiculous. i like him too but try to think objectively just for a second



I would think that the best representation of his current skill is his latest result, which is (Afaik) MLG - which was pretty good. To say 100 other players could pull that run off is pretty deluded imo.
Besides, it doesn't just have to be skill you're looking for. It´s who you want to represent. I would like IdrA because I love his personality and playstyle, while he at the same time is one of the best on this list.
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 10:09:41
September 20 2012 10:09 GMT
#51419
Sen has been playing in Taiwan... IDK why you guys are so confused about this but can we get back on topic of how much we love IdrA please? <3

On September 20 2012 18:05 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 17:00 ThePlayer33 wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:21 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:18 ThePlayer33 wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:09 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:06 schmutttt wrote:
As much as I love IdrA I'd prefer to see Sen there. Sen goes to school and makes more than enough money off the TeSL so he doesn't travel much. His skill level is ridiculous, even IdrA would tell you Sen is among the top couple foreign Zergs.


People keep saying that and yet there aren't results to back up this ridiculous skill level.

he does have results, winning WCS Taiwan with dropping a game. there is a lack of tournaments in asia. GM on korea which most foreigners cant reach.


No, read my earlier post.

His results are like an exact, if smaller sample, replica of IdrA's. Beating bad players, losing to the best Koreans, dropping games to people he shouldn't and with the occasional series win thrown in.

Sen is awesome at his best, but like I said once, evidence he'd be any more likely to beat an excellent Korean in the World Championships is non-existant.

sen did beat byun and MMA in bo7s recently. I was arguing for Sen over any other NA player except idra
the beating bad players thing apply to scarlett, though she hasn't participated in many big events at all, so she hasn't had a chance to play koreans.

foreigners aren't playing well right now anyway(no stephano) given the recent MLG(the most recent korean vs foreigner tourney)you have nerchio and maybe Vortix who played a few koreans during their runs. placing Sen with these guys doesn't mean that much.

at their peak no foreigner except stephano/huk/jinro/naniwa even come close to greg.

id call idra and sen old dogs


man, you fanboys are deluded...

Sen is definitely more deserving than idra, if you mean skill peak that's sad for idra because he has about a 30% winrate in 2012 so his peak was 1 year ago the least, and sen beat some top class koreans/foreigners in 2012

there are like 100 players better than idra. i get it that you're fans but dont be ridiculous. i like him too but try to think objectively just for a second



GTFO
"En taro adun, Executor."
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
September 20 2012 11:38 GMT
#51420
On September 20 2012 18:05 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 17:00 ThePlayer33 wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:21 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:18 ThePlayer33 wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:09 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:06 schmutttt wrote:
As much as I love IdrA I'd prefer to see Sen there. Sen goes to school and makes more than enough money off the TeSL so he doesn't travel much. His skill level is ridiculous, even IdrA would tell you Sen is among the top couple foreign Zergs.


People keep saying that and yet there aren't results to back up this ridiculous skill level.

he does have results, winning WCS Taiwan with dropping a game. there is a lack of tournaments in asia. GM on korea which most foreigners cant reach.


No, read my earlier post.

His results are like an exact, if smaller sample, replica of IdrA's. Beating bad players, losing to the best Koreans, dropping games to people he shouldn't and with the occasional series win thrown in.

Sen is awesome at his best, but like I said once, evidence he'd be any more likely to beat an excellent Korean in the World Championships is non-existant.

sen did beat byun and MMA in bo7s recently. I was arguing for Sen over any other NA player except idra
the beating bad players thing apply to scarlett, though she hasn't participated in many big events at all, so she hasn't had a chance to play koreans.

foreigners aren't playing well right now anyway(no stephano) given the recent MLG(the most recent korean vs foreigner tourney)you have nerchio and maybe Vortix who played a few koreans during their runs. placing Sen with these guys doesn't mean that much.

at their peak no foreigner except stephano/huk/jinro/naniwa even come close to greg.

id call idra and sen old dogs


man, you fanboys are deluded...

Sen is definitely more deserving than idra, if you mean skill peak that's sad for idra because he has about a 30% winrate in 2012 so his peak was 1 year ago the least, and sen beat some top class koreans/foreigners in 2012

there are like 100 players better than idra. i get it that you're fans but dont be ridiculous. i like him too but try to think objectively just for a second



Don't talk down to people. You come off an an asshole and nobody is going to repsect your opinion.

If this poll occured a few months ago, I probably wouldn't vote for Greg...... okay, I would just because he's my favorite player, but I wouldn't actually believe that he's one of the 2 best on the list. Now, he is genuinely playing much better, and hopefully we'll see some results to confirm that.

Nobody here is claiming that he's on top of the world right now. That would be ridicuous. However, your claim that there are about 100 players better than him right now is equally ridiculous.
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