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xUraharaX
United States72 Posts
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
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Maajkan
Sweden1 Post
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ExNexu
Singapore27 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:10 NeonFox wrote: If he looses to allins like that so often it's because his openings are too greedy or he doesn't scout in time, stop the qq. And I play zerg so no need to whine about any terran bias. this! User was warned for this post | ||
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:10 Maajkan wrote: I mean, Axslav and Incontrol destoyes it for EG ... How are even Incontrol captain over EG? He looses all matches, his ugly and annoying. Axslav are a really bad protoss. I mean how can you even be in EG when you can't win a Playhem tournament? There is only three good players in EG and salute to them, rest go f*ck yourselves Good bye. | ||
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Pahimarus
United States17 Posts
 Gotta give Kas credit though, it appeared he knew he couldn't beat Idra once mutas came out so he just didn't let them come out. Didn't understand Idra's play on Xel Naga Caverns, I know he feels the map is unwinnable for zerg but it seemed like Kas was completely unprepared for his all in, left the ramp down and everything and yet all he has to do is pull scvs to stop it. Was there even a scenario in which that play works? | ||
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Jesushooves
Canada553 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:11 Pahimarus wrote: Was there even a scenario in which that play works? I ask myself that every time I see IdrA allin. | ||
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:10 Maajkan wrote: I mean, Axslav and Incontrol destoyes it for EG ... How are even Incontrol captain over EG? He looses all matches, his ugly and annoying. Axslav are a really bad protoss. I mean how can you even be in EG when you can't win a Playhem tournament? There is only three good players in EG and salute to them, rest go f*ck yourselves That is unnecessarily rude. Especially the part about incontrol, I think it was the last ITG (or maybe SOTG) where all the arguments why incontrol is very important for EG were listed. Plus he is by no means a "bad" player. Not up there with the best of the world atm, sure, but not bad by any means. Can't comment on Axslav, I actually barely see games of him, but I doubt EG would keep him on, if he was "really bad". | ||
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Primal666
Slovenia418 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:14 Jesushooves wrote: I ask myself that every time I see IdrA allin. You spelled Zerg wrong. | ||
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Knuppe
90 Posts
How do you get a zergling past a supply depot-marine wallin? How do you get an overlord past 2 marines? Its just stupid, you cannot scout double factory reactor. You just have to GUESS and flip a coin. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
Every Zerg knows that you cannot scout after hellions are out. You see 4 hellions down the ramp, you know your opponent has expanded. Unless you snuck out a ling, there is no way to see all the hellions. There could be marauders, banshees, mech push, marine tank push. Idra didn't need to scout, he needed a blind baneling nest and a better sim city. | ||
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xUraharaX
United States72 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:11 Pahimarus wrote: looked like the old idra Gotta give Kas credit though, it appeared he knew he couldn't beat Idra once mutas came out so he just didn't let them come out. Didn't understand Idra's play on Xel Naga Caverns, I know he feels the map is unwinnable for zerg but it seemed like Kas was completely unprepared for his all in, left the ramp down and everything and yet all he has to do is pull scvs to stop it. Was there even a scenario in which that play works?I feel like if idra hadnt pulled up the ramp (autoloss) he would have had a fighting chance, deny the expo and make about 15 more drones, and then continue putting pressure to deny the expo as long as possible and force an all in from Kas and with a marine tank mix, a large zerg army could slow its advance. I feel like he could have taken it. Its not normal Idra style, but on Xelnaga normal tends not to work. | ||
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damod
1106 Posts
no need to take the credit from kas, he is is #1 on the EU ladder for a reason. looking forward for some more good games from them both in the future. | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:18 Micket wrote: Every Zerg knows that you cannot scout after hellions are out. You see 4 hellions down the ramp, you know your opponent has expanded. Unless you snuck out a ling, there is no way to see all the hellions. There could be marauders, banshees, mech push, marine tank push. Idra didn't need to scout, he needed a blind baneling nest and a better sim city. You can hide one of your first zergling somewhere on the map and run him in later, which is why Kas ran his first 2 hellions all over the map to look for those zerglings. And as Sheth said with such an open choke and the super fast cc and no addon rax that idra scouted roaches would have been the right way to play this. He lost because he didn't play it the right way, which is fine not everybody is nestea and even him messes up from time to time, and yes I think Idra is better then Kas overall. But stop saying terran is imbalanced and idra stood no chance against this strat. Edit : the last part is not directed to you but to the people saying terran is imba | ||
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Pahimarus
United States17 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:19 xUraharaX wrote: I feel like if idra hadnt pulled up the ramp (autoloss) he would have had a fighting chance, deny the expo and make about 15 more drones, and then continue putting pressure to deny the expo as long as possible and force an all in from Kas and with a marine tank mix, a large zerg army could slow its advance. I feel like he could have taken it. Its not normal Idra style, but on Xelnaga normal tends not to work. Makes sense, he would have been pretty far behind on econ but he would have had two hatches to Kas' one base to drone hard behind. Still, I feel like if he does that he just comes out more like even than really ahead and the major problem I've seen him run into on Xel is the difficulty in defending the third. I think the game would have still continued long enough to make that issue significant. Still it would have been better than the autoloss up the ramp and he might have been able to grab a bigger lead than I've imagined. I wonder if Kas left the ramp down on purpose to tempt him? Its funny, usually Idra's decision making is much better than that, which is why I thought it looked like the old tilty idra more than the one I've been watching lately at IEM, MLG Orlando and ASUS ROG. It almost seems like he plays better when he respects his opponent, which means he basically has to be Korean or tip top foreigner and even then... What is the old quote about the best swordfighter in the world fearing the worst swordfighter because he can't predict what he's going to do? Something like that. Anyway, go Idra, hope he does well at MLG  Edit: I'm not saying Kas is bad, just that Idra clearly perceives him to be bad which is what matters with respect to Idra's mental state. | ||
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imareaver3
United States906 Posts
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:38 imareaver3 wrote: I just realized--the MLG Columbus Day 3 thread is now 5 pages less than this one. IdrA's fanclub is now the longest thread on TL! It's not. This among others is longer: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98009 Edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94273 As well. None of them are growing as fast as Idra's fanclub though. | ||
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trikshun
United States437 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:39 OrchidThief wrote: It's not. This among others is longer: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98009 Edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94273 As well. None of them are growing as fast as Idra's fanclub though. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145494 | ||
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
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epicdemic
Netherlands137 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:07 PandaMonk wrote: Idra, doesnt lose a game past the 13 minute mark.... go cheese... It's pretty easy to transition out of double reactor hellion, as we saw in game 5. | ||
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