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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 15:07:54
June 02 2012 15:05 GMT
#3061
On June 02 2012 23:27 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Apparently he is out after losing 0-2 to Jaxx...
Pretty much a very bad day for a TLO fan

Yeah, and him boldly saying that he is better than and can beat anyone other than HasuObs at the WCS German Qualifier in an interview with Soe just prior to that wasn't really helpful, either.

Please work on that, Dario. No more arrogant overconfidence. Just be humble and win.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 15:29:33
June 02 2012 15:12 GMT
#3062
On June 03 2012 00:05 Proseat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 23:27 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Apparently he is out after losing 0-2 to Jaxx...
Pretty much a very bad day for a TLO fan

Yeah, and him boldly saying that he is better than and can beat anyone other than HasuObs at the WCS German Qualifier in an interview with Soe just prior to that wasn't really helpful, either.

Please work on that, Dario. No more arrogant overconfidence. Just be humble and win.

That's not overconfidence, that's a fact. Nothing wrong with stating the truth. Losing one Bo3 doesn't make him a worse player nor does it mean that some non-existent overconfidence blew up in his face.

EDIT: I forgot Socke, but saying that he's better than ONE player who is likely better than him doesn't mean overconfidence.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
June 02 2012 15:31 GMT
#3063
On June 03 2012 00:12 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 00:05 Proseat wrote:
On June 02 2012 23:27 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Apparently he is out after losing 0-2 to Jaxx...
Pretty much a very bad day for a TLO fan

Yeah, and him boldly saying that he is better than and can beat anyone other than HasuObs at the WCS German Qualifier in an interview with Soe just prior to that wasn't really helpful, either.

Please work on that, Dario. No more arrogant overconfidence. Just be humble and win.

That's not overconfidence, that's a fact. Nothing wrong with stating the truth. Losing one Bo3 doesn't make him a worse player nor does it mean that some non-existent overconfidence blew up in his face.

It's not a fact and will not become a fact just because you keep repeating that in your head. TLO has critized himself for being too arrogant and overconfident a number of times in the past. Today it was unfortunately on display again.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Laplaces_imp
Profile Joined January 2012
368 Posts
June 03 2012 14:11 GMT
#3064
i am not too worried about it. His mind set for practicing in korea seems amazing and he is logging 9 hours a day on the korean server. He was one game away from making Code A for only practicing a week in Korea. I wouldn't be surprised to see him become a serious code A player inside a couple of months.
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
June 03 2012 14:29 GMT
#3065
Yep, after a day of being frustrated I`m not that pessimistic anymore. Still, I don`t think it is all about just training a lot. Sure, he will develop his mechanics even further (which could make a considerable difference vs European opponents if he would get really top notch in that area). But I don`t think that more than his mechanics there are two factors that play a more crucial role and that cannot be cured by just playing a lot. The first one is that when things are getting decisive TLO is very likely to opt for an overagressive / risky play. In most cases this choice backfires. The second is that he switches his builds very frequently and thus never really gets to a point where his play gets "super-solid". I think Zenio is a similar case. Both are pretty good skillwise but as their style varies that often they tend to have holes in their play that a very repetitive-minded player usually hasn`t. I think TLO certainly has the ability to go further but what he really needs imo is just to refrain from mindgames develop a save style that carries him well into the lategame and from then on he just has to master the lategame in the various matchups.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 03 2012 14:51 GMT
#3066
On June 03 2012 00:31 Proseat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 00:12 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On June 03 2012 00:05 Proseat wrote:
On June 02 2012 23:27 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Apparently he is out after losing 0-2 to Jaxx...
Pretty much a very bad day for a TLO fan

Yeah, and him boldly saying that he is better than and can beat anyone other than HasuObs at the WCS German Qualifier in an interview with Soe just prior to that wasn't really helpful, either.

Please work on that, Dario. No more arrogant overconfidence. Just be humble and win.

That's not overconfidence, that's a fact. Nothing wrong with stating the truth. Losing one Bo3 doesn't make him a worse player nor does it mean that some non-existent overconfidence blew up in his face.

It's not a fact and will not become a fact just because you keep repeating that in your head. TLO has critized himself for being too arrogant and overconfident a number of times in the past. Today it was unfortunately on display again.


I have to agree. Those are not the healthiest thoughts a competitor should be having before a match. It's even worse having actually spoken them out loud. I haven't seen the games, but I was quite surprised he would say something like that given the amount of effort he's put into developing the correct competitive mindset.
NeuTrons12
Profile Joined June 2012
50 Posts
June 03 2012 14:54 GMT
#3067
poor tlo..
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
June 03 2012 15:17 GMT
#3068
Some reaaaaaaaaaly interesting info for all TLO fans!
Yesterday Take mentioned on his stream, that he talked with TLO and he got a Code A Seed gifted from Gom for his great showing in the qualifier
FatBat
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany326 Posts
June 03 2012 15:27 GMT
#3069
On June 04 2012 00:17 ChaosArcher wrote:
Some reaaaaaaaaaly interesting info for all TLO fans!
Yesterday Take mentioned on his stream, that he talked with TLO and he got a Code A Seed gifted from Gom for his great showing in the qualifier

there are no free spots in code a right now, as long noone drops out, it is nothing more than a rumor
"This game went full retard"- Totalbiscuit
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
June 03 2012 15:27 GMT
#3070
On June 04 2012 00:17 ChaosArcher wrote:
Some reaaaaaaaaaly interesting info for all TLO fans!
Yesterday Take mentioned on his stream, that he talked with TLO and he got a Code A Seed gifted from Gom for his great showing in the qualifier

There isent any code A seeds to be given anymore
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
June 03 2012 15:37 GMT
#3071
How hypocritical would it be to accept a Code A seed now after saying multiple times he wouldn't accept one because one should only deserve it by qualifying!?
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
June 03 2012 15:51 GMT
#3072
On June 04 2012 00:27 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 00:17 ChaosArcher wrote:
Some reaaaaaaaaaly interesting info for all TLO fans!
Yesterday Take mentioned on his stream, that he talked with TLO and he got a Code A Seed gifted from Gom for his great showing in the qualifier

There isent any code A seeds to be given anymore


I guess s1 drops out, because Take talked about it like it was set in stone.
Maybe i misunderstood him thought, even if i dont think so
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 18:21:07
June 03 2012 17:41 GMT
#3073
I went back to the stream recording to find the relevant bit as I also missed it before. Here's the link and a transcript of what was said in German between Monchi and TaKe, plus a translation to English:

http://www.twitch.tv/taketv/b/320107059?t=2h50m48s

    Monchi:
      "Von TLO sieht man ja relativ wenig. Der is ja immer in Korea irgendwie, ne?"
      "You don't hear much about TLO really. Somehow he's in Korea all the time, right?"

    TaKe:
      "Ja."
      "Yeah."

    Monchi:
      "Spielt auch Code A jetzt, glaub ich. Also, ich glaub... grad vorher, also nicht mit ihm geredet, ich hab nur gehört wie er mit dem anderen geredet hat, und er hat gesagt irgendwie..."
      "Will also play Code A now, I believe. Well, I think.... just prior, didn't speak to him myself, but I heard him talk to someone else and he said somehow..."

    TaKe:
      "Er kriegt jetzt nen Seed."
      "He gets a seed now."

    Monchi:
      "...er hat einen... er hat einen Code A Seed, er muss sich nicht mehr qualifizieren dafür."
      "...he's got a... he's got a Code A seed, he does not have to qualify for it anymore."

    Monchi:
      "Das heißt, er fliegt dann zurück und spielt direkt GSL. Schon nen Hammer."
      "That means he will fly back later and directly play in GSL. Pretty amazing."

    TaKe:
      "Ja, ich bin gespannt wie er sich schlägt."
      "Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how he will do."

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Goosestep
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany10 Posts
June 05 2012 13:38 GMT
#3074
Finally arived here
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12759 Posts
June 05 2012 14:30 GMT
#3075
On June 03 2012 23:29 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Yep, after a day of being frustrated I`m not that pessimistic anymore. Still, I don`t think it is all about just training a lot. Sure, he will develop his mechanics even further (which could make a considerable difference vs European opponents if he would get really top notch in that area). But I don`t think that more than his mechanics there are two factors that play a more crucial role and that cannot be cured by just playing a lot. The first one is that when things are getting decisive TLO is very likely to opt for an overagressive / risky play. In most cases this choice backfires. The second is that he switches his builds very frequently and thus never really gets to a point where his play gets "super-solid". I think Zenio is a similar case. Both are pretty good skillwise but as their style varies that often they tend to have holes in their play that a very repetitive-minded player usually hasn`t. I think TLO certainly has the ability to go further but what he really needs imo is just to refrain from mindgames develop a save style that carries him well into the lategame and from then on he just has to master the lategame in the various matchups.

that's how I feel as well.
To add, his playstyle seems to be not so good as a zerg, if you compared to more solid macro zergs like dimaga, sheth or ret, they will always have a more solid higher drone count throughout the game.
Or comparing him to more aggressive zergs like nerchio, he doesn't make good judgement on when to commit and therefore always play from behind
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
bonse
Profile Joined July 2011
125 Posts
June 07 2012 06:07 GMT
#3076
TLO just beat Nestea on stream (on ladder) !!!
gnatinator
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada169 Posts
June 07 2012 12:27 GMT
#3077
TLO: Would you make a glorious return to Forged Alliance if it rised from the ashes like a phoenix and overtook SC2 in popularity?
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McPhiz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada183 Posts
June 08 2012 04:16 GMT
#3078
WOAH TLO has some serious taste in music, i thought i had my own playlist on but it turns out he just has great taste in music
Hoberator
Profile Joined June 2011
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-02 02:33:02
June 08 2012 05:31 GMT
#3079
It hasn't gone wrong yet so it never will.
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
June 08 2012 05:37 GMT
#3080
What band was that?
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