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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 10 2012 20:02 GMT
#75641
Ooh, hype hype hype!

So probably Venus album + Like a Wave? Wonder if they're actually going to put on any other songs, I'd be happy to see more. I'd also be happy to see some live Yoonjoo.
It's your boy Guzma!
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:06:29
September 10 2012 20:05 GMT
#75642
On September 11 2012 04:25 Vorgrim wrote:
For most konglish words I just imagine they learned them from American soldiers, judging by the spelling. Instead of Man (만) they spell it Maen (멘). Magic follows along that with that, except it sounds quite odd saying Maejik (american style), as opposed to Majik, so I guess they just bastardised it for the track to be easier to sing and, to their ears, more pleasing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift might help you.
If they spell it 만 they have to pronounce it as "mun" (English i.e. "sunk"). It's actually the English spelling which is fucked up (since other languages which use the same alphabet didnt follow this pronounciation shift (or adapted their spelling)).
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:07:50
September 10 2012 20:07 GMT
#75643
On September 11 2012 05:05 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 04:25 Vorgrim wrote:
For most konglish words I just imagine they learned them from American soldiers, judging by the spelling. Instead of Man (만) they spell it Maen (멘). Magic follows along that with that, except it sounds quite odd saying Maejik (american style), as opposed to Majik, so I guess they just bastardised it for the track to be easier to sing and, to their ears, more pleasing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift might help you.
If they spell it 만 they have to pronounce it as "mun" (English i.e. "sunk"). It's actually the English spelling which is fucked up (since other languages which use the same alphabet didnt follow this pronounciation shift (or adapted their spelling)).

isn't 만 closer to "mahn" and not "mun"? Unless I'm missing the point.
Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:14:51
September 10 2012 20:14 GMT
#75644
On September 11 2012 05:07 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 05:05 Zocat wrote:
On September 11 2012 04:25 Vorgrim wrote:
For most konglish words I just imagine they learned them from American soldiers, judging by the spelling. Instead of Man (만) they spell it Maen (멘). Magic follows along that with that, except it sounds quite odd saying Maejik (american style), as opposed to Majik, so I guess they just bastardised it for the track to be easier to sing and, to their ears, more pleasing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift might help you.
If they spell it 만 they have to pronounce it as "mun" (English i.e. "sunk"). It's actually the English spelling which is fucked up (since other languages which use the same alphabet didnt follow this pronounciation shift (or adapted their spelling)).

isn't 만 closer to "mahn" and not "mun"? Unless I'm missing the point.


I was about to say the same. ᅡ is an "a" sound.

Anyway, HSY is a qt:

+ Show Spoiler [Nicole] +


Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:16:26
September 10 2012 20:14 GMT
#75645
I think that depends if the vowel is short / long. If you want a long vowel "mahn" (as in father) would be a good example.
If you want a short one I'd say mun (as in but, fuck ...).
But not really sure about that.

"ᅡ is an "a" sound."
That's the whole point. The English "a" sound in "man" is not a Korean ㅏ or a German "a" (and I think also not a Danish a). It's closer to a ㅔ, ㅐ(e, ä)
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
September 10 2012 20:22 GMT
#75646
I love Seugyeon's stupid face.

I can assure you a correct british english pronounciation of man does not have a long A, it's quite abrupt. I was pointing out that for many american dialects it sounds longer, hence 멘 instead of 만. We could be here all day, so let's drop it.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:23:52
September 10 2012 20:23 GMT
#75647
On September 11 2012 05:14 Zocat wrote:
I think that depends if the vowel is short / long. If you want a long vowel "mahn" (as in father) would be a good example.
If you want a short one I'd say mun (as in but, fuck ...).
But not really sure about that.

"ᅡ is an "a" sound."
That's the whole point. The English "a" sound in "man" is not a Korean ㅏ or a German "a" (and I think also not a Danish a). It's closer to a ㅔ, ㅐ(e, ä)

Oh yeah I see your point now. That was dumb of me. But yes, to hangulacize man you need to use one of those 2 letters.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:31:52
September 10 2012 20:28 GMT
#75648
On September 11 2012 05:22 Vorgrim wrote:
I can assure you a correct british english pronounciation of man does not have a long A, it's quite abrupt. I was pointing out that for many american dialects it sounds longer, hence 멘 instead of 만. We could be here all day, so let's drop it.


No you're just wrong. The British English pronounciation has the same problem (vowel shift). The "man" is the same vowel as in "bat" (also short). Which is a Korean ㅔ / ㅐ and in no way ever a Korean ㅏ. Look at the phonetic transcriptions of the languages.
But you're right - this is going completely off topic - I apologize for that.

On September 11 2012 05:29 Juliette wrote:
i support more hello venus

any interesting news the past 2 weeks? t-ara comeback excluded


Baek Ah Yeon & FT Island albums
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
September 10 2012 20:29 GMT
#75649
i support more hello venus

any interesting news the past 2 weeks? t-ara comeback excluded
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
September 10 2012 20:29 GMT
#75650
This is why you NEED to be able to read Hangul if you want anything to do with the Korean language. The sounds just don't translate..
Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:35:34
September 10 2012 20:32 GMT
#75651
+ Show Spoiler [more off topic stuff] +
Pretty sure ㅔ and ㅐ are longer. 만 for mahn and 멘 or 맨 would be main/maen/mayne. Perhaps my ears have been clogged all this time.
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:39:25
September 10 2012 20:36 GMT
#75652
Who wants to be reminded about Rainbow's comeback? Oh yeah, everyone because Jaekyung is awesome (together with Jisook ofc). October is gonna be the shit!

[image loading]

Also, I find it funny that we use Korean vowels to explain what we mean phonetically in other languages. Such a useful language!

EDIT: Why not put a slightly older Jisook pic as well?

+ Show Spoiler [Cute Jisook] +
[image loading]
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:50:15
September 10 2012 20:46 GMT
#75653
just caught this on youtube again. i dont think theres ever been a sexier performance... i mean leopard mini skirt!



this one comes close tho



any other sexiest performance in kpop ever candidate you guys know about?
Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
September 10 2012 20:50 GMT
#75654
Don't know, man. Hyori is hard to compete with.
Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 21:13:52
September 10 2012 20:52 GMT
#75655
Her Shall we dance? perfs were quite hot.



Makes all that "scandal" about Kara's dance routine seem a bit odd, doesn't it?
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
September 10 2012 20:54 GMT
#75656
just to put hyori's leopard skirt performance in perspective here is 8 perfectly beautiful girls in similar outfits managing to radiate only a fraction of sexy energy hyori lee was capable of.

karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
September 10 2012 20:55 GMT
#75657
Don't really like Woori but gotta admit she's got a 10/10 midriff.
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
September 10 2012 20:56 GMT
#75658
Out of all the kpop songs and performances I have ever watched, Rainbow's A remains the only one where I constantly look over my shoulder every 3 seconds. I feel guilty just watching that.
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
September 10 2012 20:57 GMT
#75659
ikr its better than softcore porn i think
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 21:03:10
September 10 2012 21:02 GMT
#75660
Especially when some girls decide to show more skin. Sometimes it's hard to know if they are even gonna stop after the "A A A A" chorus.
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