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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-13 21:18:25
July 13 2016 21:17 GMT
#113601
There has been a lot of progress since the series is winding down. Its just stupid and very predictable.
Never Knows Best.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 13 2016 21:39 GMT
#113602
Nisekoi was always stupid and very predictable
So even though i don't read the manga i hardly see how anything has changed from what was adapted into anime
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8692 Posts
July 13 2016 21:42 GMT
#113603
On July 14 2016 06:06 Slaughter wrote:
Lol Nisekoi. Its just so bad and cringe now that its hilarious.


Hey, Slaughter from 2 years ago. Did you accidentally use a time machine to jump to the future and didn't notice?
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
July 14 2016 00:17 GMT
#113604
On July 14 2016 05:08 Miragee wrote:
Yeah, that's kind of strange. Both, the reset mechanic and Emilia, got some hints so it doesn't seem like it's just about asspulls.

+ Show Spoiler +
The reset mechanic is connected to the witch. We don't know why yet but I don't think we should necessarily know it at this point because of how the story went. The characters had no chance of learning about it and in this case the viewer should learn it when the characters learn it.

Same goes for Emilia. Although the most recent episodes kind of hinted at their connection to the witch? Did anybody notice Emilia's body was the only one that didn't show up dead in the massacres? We only saw her flower once, that's all.


I feel like we get our answers to both by the end, which is a good thing.


Pure speculation on my part:
+ Show Spoiler +
I am fairly certain that at least Puck is deeply connected to the witch, mostly because I think that he knows about the reset. During one of the first few episodes, Subaru calls out for Puck so that he can deflect an attack from that assassin despite the fact that in that timeline, Subaru and Puck have not met before. Yet Puck never mentions that. At first I assumed it was simply an oversight, a mistake of the show... but after Puck killed Subaru in that last episode, it strengthened my theory that he knows about the reset and killed Subaru intentionally to start over.
It's not that Puck killed Subaru in a frenzy either, he knew who he was talking to when he said "Sleep along with my daughter" (or something similar). Having someone close to you that allows you to start over if something goes wrong seems like a very potent tool.
Roswaal is probably an agent of the witch as well. Similarly to Betelgeuse, he has a strange way of speaking and is very mysterious in general. He seems to be a very powerful person/mage/whatever, yet we see the witche's cult assault his mansion without a trace of him. All the dead cultists we see died at the hand of either Rem or Ram.
So overall it's fairly likely that Emilia is a descendant of the witch (Puck calls her his daughter) that Puck and Roswaal try to get into power without her realizing her lineage.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 14 2016 00:28 GMT
#113605
+ Show Spoiler +
I thought she was the witch. She called herself Satella in the first episode when Subaru made the best impression. Emilia every time thereafter.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8692 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 00:35:31
July 14 2016 00:33 GMT
#113606
On July 14 2016 09:17 Nezgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 05:08 Miragee wrote:
Yeah, that's kind of strange. Both, the reset mechanic and Emilia, got some hints so it doesn't seem like it's just about asspulls.

+ Show Spoiler +
The reset mechanic is connected to the witch. We don't know why yet but I don't think we should necessarily know it at this point because of how the story went. The characters had no chance of learning about it and in this case the viewer should learn it when the characters learn it.

Same goes for Emilia. Although the most recent episodes kind of hinted at their connection to the witch? Did anybody notice Emilia's body was the only one that didn't show up dead in the massacres? We only saw her flower once, that's all.


I feel like we get our answers to both by the end, which is a good thing.


Pure speculation on my part:
+ Show Spoiler +
I am fairly certain that at least Puck is deeply connected to the witch, mostly because I think that he knows about the reset. During one of the first few episodes, Subaru calls out for Puck so that he can deflect an attack from that assassin despite the fact that in that timeline, Subaru and Puck have not met before. Yet Puck never mentions that. At first I assumed it was simply an oversight, a mistake of the show... but after Puck killed Subaru in that last episode, it strengthened my theory that he knows about the reset and killed Subaru intentionally to start over.
It's not that Puck killed Subaru in a frenzy either, he knew who he was talking to when he said "Sleep along with my daughter" (or something similar). Having someone close to you that allows you to start over if something goes wrong seems like a very potent tool.
Roswaal is probably an agent of the witch as well. Similarly to Betelgeuse, he has a strange way of speaking and is very mysterious in general. He seems to be a very powerful person/mage/whatever, yet we see the witche's cult assault his mansion without a trace of him. All the dead cultists we see died at the hand of either Rem or Ram.
So overall it's fairly likely that Emilia is a descendant of the witch (Puck calls her his daughter) that Puck and Roswaal try to get into power without her realizing her lineage.


+ Show Spoiler +
This is going quite far but I can see that happening.


On July 14 2016 09:28 SK.Testie wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I thought she was the witch. She called herself Satella in the first episode when Subaru made the best impression. Emilia every time thereafter.


+ Show Spoiler +
She might be, yes. Or she is the daughter of the witch.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 14 2016 06:35 GMT
#113607
I disagree with all of the speculations, even if they don't necessarily seem wrong. But as for one thing Nezgar said: + Show Spoiler +
I'm 99% sure the thing with Puck and Subaru got adressed in one of the ReZero Break time specials.

I personally think Roswaal isn't a (that) bad dude and Emilia probably really got nothing to do with the Witch. Else I don't think she'd be allowed anything like being a candidate and others like OP Reinhard would definitely have realized it by now imo. Plus imo Puck is probably not much more than the Great Spirit that is guarding Emilia (which goes on rampage if she dies), though idk about him.

I guess I wouldn't be surprised either way, but so far I don't see it.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 14 2016 06:38 GMT
#113608
On July 14 2016 15:35 HolydaKing wrote:
I disagree with all of the speculations, even if they don't necessarily seem wrong. But as for one thing Nezgar said: + Show Spoiler +
I'm 99% sure the thing with Puck and Subaru got adressed in one of the ReZero Break time specials.

I personally think Roswaal isn't a (that) bad dude and Emilia probably really got nothing to do with the Witch. Else I don't think she'd be allowed anything like being a candidate and others like OP Reinhard would definitely have realized it by now imo. Plus imo Puck is probably not much more than the Great Spirit that is guarding Emilia (which goes on rampage if she dies), though idk about him.

I guess I wouldn't be surprised either way, but so far I don't see it.


+ Show Spoiler +
Roswaal is definitely sketchy as fuck and will probably turn out to be some kind of antag.
Never Knows Best.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 06:44:13
July 14 2016 06:43 GMT
#113609
On July 14 2016 15:38 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 15:35 HolydaKing wrote:
I disagree with all of the speculations, even if they don't necessarily seem wrong. But as for one thing Nezgar said: + Show Spoiler +
I'm 99% sure the thing with Puck and Subaru got adressed in one of the ReZero Break time specials.

I personally think Roswaal isn't a (that) bad dude and Emilia probably really got nothing to do with the Witch. Else I don't think she'd be allowed anything like being a candidate and others like OP Reinhard would definitely have realized it by now imo. Plus imo Puck is probably not much more than the Great Spirit that is guarding Emilia (which goes on rampage if she dies), though idk about him.

I guess I wouldn't be surprised either way, but so far I don't see it.


+ Show Spoiler +
Roswaal is definitely sketchy as fuck and will probably turn out to be some kind of antag.

+ Show Spoiler +
Possibly, but I doubt he's related to the Witch Cultists. I'm not even convinced he's going to turn into an antagonist, but considering he's wanting to kill the Dragon, it's quite likely. Though IDK if he got some reason for that as I don't know much about the Dragon.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
July 14 2016 11:26 GMT
#113610
Amaama takes the edge away.
Skol
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
July 14 2016 12:56 GMT
#113611
mle/u is out on steam~! \o/ sumika es best!
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 14 2016 13:09 GMT
#113612
On July 14 2016 21:56 Nagisama wrote:
mle/u is out on steam~! \o/ sumika es best!

It took me forever to get my Steam Key last night, but finally have it! Now I can experience Lacrosse yet again!
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 20:44:21
July 14 2016 19:23 GMT
#113613
yo emnjay, I'll be sitting on irc the next couple hours but have somewhere to be at tomorrow 9am so can't be on way past, let's say 1am. So if you get on highlight me and we can watch. Otherwise we'll have to postpone for about a day if you don't have time within the next 5 or so hours.

If I don't answer on irc I'm probably out witch my dog catching pokemons and will be back within an hour~

+ Show Spoiler [pic] +
Or so I thought, kinda makes a difference if you're in a big city or a 10k village:

[image loading]

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 14 2016 19:57 GMT
#113614
Just finished watched Muv-Luv Alternative Total Eclipse. Absolutely loved it and wanna get some more Muv-Luv content, what should I watch/play next any recommendations would be great.
I realize after a quick google search that maybe I should've played a VN before I watched it but I dunno I thought it made sense to me anyway. Anyone who knows the Muv-Luv series and can point me in a direction? Thanks!
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 20:04:38
July 14 2016 20:04 GMT
#113615
Total Eclipse is largely standalone. If its anime you're after, Schwarzesmarken is your only other option.

Technically there are three Muvluv VNs: Extra, Unlimited, Alternative. These need to be read in order. Extra and Unlimited are bundled together in the same game on Steam. Alternative is not yet released on Steam, though there is a fan translation.
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 14 2016 20:08 GMT
#113616
On July 15 2016 05:04 Spazer wrote:
Total Eclipse is largely standalone. If its anime you're after, Schwarzesmarken is your only other option.

Technically there are three Muvluv VNs: Extra, Unlimited, Alternative. These need to be read in order. Extra and Unlimited are bundled together in the same game on Steam. Alternative is not yet released on Steam, though there is a fan translation.


Alright yeah I forgot to mention I already downloaded Schwarzesmarken, heard it's a spinoff or some stuff gonna watch it too.
I've never really been a fan of VN's but I guess I can give it a shot, it's just still images with text right or is there voice acting?

And I assume you mean this one? http://store.steampowered.com/app/449830/
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 14 2016 21:13 GMT
#113617
On July 15 2016 05:08 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2016 05:04 Spazer wrote:
Total Eclipse is largely standalone. If its anime you're after, Schwarzesmarken is your only other option.

Technically there are three Muvluv VNs: Extra, Unlimited, Alternative. These need to be read in order. Extra and Unlimited are bundled together in the same game on Steam. Alternative is not yet released on Steam, though there is a fan translation.


Alright yeah I forgot to mention I already downloaded Schwarzesmarken, heard it's a spinoff or some stuff gonna watch it too.
I've never really been a fan of VN's but I guess I can give it a shot, it's just still images with text right or is there voice acting?

And I assume you mean this one? http://store.steampowered.com/app/449830/

Total Eclipse is also a Spinoff.

The original Visual Novel, Muv-Luv, had two "games" as part of it. The first one, called Muv-Luv Extra, is essentially a run of the mill Romcom VN. It introduces the cast of characters of the game and all that. Then comes the second game in the series, Muv-Luv Unlimited. And in MLU, we are introduced to what makes the series popular.

Muv-Luv Unlimited takes the main character from Extra, and drops him into an alternate universe, where Humanity is fighting against the BETA. The same universe as you saw in Total Eclipse. The VN is pretty much about the MC adapting to the alternative universe, joining the army, etc. Both of these just got an official release on Steam.

After Unlimited comes the crown jewel of the franchise, Muv-Luv Alternative. Its my favorite VN, and a contender for one of my favorite pieces of fiction. Its also really long, and for its time had very good production value for a VN. It should get an official release within the year on Steam.

Those three make up the "Muv-Luv Trilogy", and is the main franchise. Beyond them, there are spinoffs and side stories. For instance, Total Eclipse is a spinoff, taking place in Alaska slightly before Unlimited begins. Schwarezmarken takes place in Germany in the early 1980s, roughly 20 years before the main series (and Total Eclipse).

All the games have voice acting. There isn't an anime adaption of the main trilogy, since its so long, but there are the two side stories in TE and Schwaresmarken. TE was full of issues, but Schwaresmarken was overall pretty solid, if rushed.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 14 2016 21:24 GMT
#113618
Damn alright thx for the info!
I'll check some gameplay out when it's released on Steam and then decide if I wanna play it. Meanwhile I'll start Schwarezmarken!

~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 22:04:54
July 14 2016 22:04 GMT
#113619
Kono Bijutsubu is great. Usami is so cute and Uchimaki is awesome. I laughed a lot during ep 2.
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 23:46:31
July 14 2016 22:10 GMT
#113620
Speaking of Muv Luv, I just finished MLE/U yesterday and started Alternative today. Overall I thought Extra wasn't too bad but it was a slog to get through. The pacing was slow as molasses and the mystery was pretty obvious but it did it's job to make me to care for the characters.

Unlimited was better thanks to the genre shift but I did have one major issue with it:
+ Show Spoiler [Muv Luv Unlimited] +
The female pilot suits looked fucking retarded and made it super hard to take the story seriously (especially when I found out that the male pilot suits looked normal in comparison). The fanservice in general felt very forced

Oh well I got used to it by the end of unlimited so it shouldn't be an issue for alternative but had I known about it beforehand I would've waited for the steam release before reading it.

I'm just at the start of episode 6 of MLA and i'm liking it a lot so far. Tons of infodumping still but I came here for the Sci-Fi so all good. I was sceptical about the pseudo-animated sprites but they look great, makes me wish all VN's had them.
Also the MLA menu music is GOAT, anybody have a link to it without spoilers on the thumbnail ?
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