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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On February 13 2012 06:00 Sufficiency wrote: Symphogear 6: + Show Spoiler + I swear, I am seeing a Shirou in Hibiki... both saved years ago by after person... both wanted to help other people because of the near-death experience. + Show Spoiler + But shirou is a weak moral fag. The only thing worse than a moral fag is a moral fag with no power to back up his moral faggotry. | ||
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MichaelEU
Netherlands816 Posts
Please avoid using Mangafox, if you can. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On February 13 2012 06:26 MichaelEU wrote: I'm still a bit leery of Batoto. Yes, it means money flows to the scanlator instead of the aggregator, but even the scanlator isn't holy. In general, I would like some transparency from scanlators. The donation button set a clear goal per month and clearly showed when that goal was achieved. Please avoid using Mangafox, if you can. Why avoid Mangafox? | ||
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NationInArms
United States1553 Posts
On February 13 2012 02:24 Requizen wrote: Kimi no Iru Machi: + Show Spoiler + Am I the only one who really, really hopes the MC gets his ass kicked soon, and justifiably so? At least there'll finally be some conflict that actually makes sense and not cliche romcom bullshit. Well, it looks like there's a chance he's about to be. | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
easy to track where i was there... because usually i like to leave a manga alone for longer and then read a bunch of chapters. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On February 13 2012 07:06 NationInArms wrote: Well, it looks like there's a chance he's about to be. well it's about time he gets a kid with one of the girls just like in Suzuka. | ||
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NationInArms
United States1553 Posts
On February 13 2012 07:15 Skilledblob wrote: well it's about time he gets a kid with one of the girls just like in Suzuka. Spoilers! I doubt though, that anyone that reads this thread has Suzuka on their want-to-read list though. After this event though, the manga should end. There's not really anything else left unless the mangaka wants Haruto to fulfill his restaurant dream (which would take a gazillion more chapters). | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
Because they take shit of the scanlators without compensating them, Red Hawk for example pretty much puts a warning notice at the start of every scan because they have their own hosting and with mangafox just brazenly taking whatever they find and putting it on the site it sucks for the guy who actually did the work and wants to put it on his. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On February 13 2012 07:18 NationInArms wrote: Spoilers! I doubt though, that anyone that reads this thread has Suzuka on their want-to-read list though. After this event though, the manga should end. There's not really anything else left unless the mangaka wants Haruto to fulfill his restaurant dream (which would take a gazillion more chapters). I have no doubts that this author can come up with countless more bullshit story arcs | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On February 13 2012 07:25 Rebs wrote: Because they take shit of the scanlators without compensating them, Red Hawk for example pretty much puts a warning notice at the start of every scan because they have their own hosting and with mangafox just brazenly taking whatever they find and putting it on the site it sucks for the guy who actually did the work and wants to put it on his. Without compensating them? So basically, don't use Mangafox because they steal an already stolen work from scanlators? How does that make sense? Isn't it the same thing with anime-streaming websites? Should people never use them as well? | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13092 Posts
On February 13 2012 07:25 Rebs wrote: Because they take shit of the scanlators without compensating them, Red Hawk for example pretty much puts a warning notice at the start of every scan because they have their own hosting and with mangafox just brazenly taking whatever they find and putting it on the site it sucks for the guy who actually did the work and wants to put it on his. I dont think they are mad because they are not compesating them. Most scanlator sites use a 24 hour delay period for sites like Mangafox for their releases but they never respect that and thats why everyone shits on Mangafox and Mangahere ( both owned by some chinese company i think ) In a way its about money but mostly they wanna popularize Batoto and their own sites for ppl to read manga instead of Mangafox who are making huge profits from everyone for no work and cant even respect a single rule to delay uploading manga for 24 hours. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On February 13 2012 07:45 Sentenal wrote: Without compensating them? So basically, don't use Mangafox because they steal an already stolen work from scanlators? How does that make sense? Isn't it the same thing with anime-streaming websites? Should people never use them as well? Im not saying dont use it, I use mangafox I honestly dont care. Thats the logic they present anyway, they want to promote themselves, maybe what Skeia is saying is more accurate Im not privy to that rule, its just of the warning messages they publish on their scans (that ironically appear on mangafox). As for the compensations thats really what I mean, if you want to host it asap then you pay up otherwise delay the release so the host site gets the hits first. Also anime streaming website's offer a convenience, thats an additional service, they are doing "something" to make anime more accessible. For people who cant use torrents or are for whatever reason unable to DDL stuff streaming is actually useful. Thats not quite the same thing. They are actively saying we do more than them to bring you this and we offer the same service come to us. Its not to much to ask in retrospect. | ||
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MichaelEU
Netherlands816 Posts
It's all about the money. Scanlating should be a charity effort. There's no excuse for profiteering on a mangaka's hard work.. Aggregators usually earn money out of it. Mangafox in particular garners an incredible amount of pageviews and in turn an even more incredible sum of ad money. Mangafox is owned by NOEZ, a company based in China (reason why mangafox hasn't been taken down yet?). NOEZ is a generally shady company (mangafox isn't their only source of income, and not their only story). They're certainly not interested in managing a healthy scanlation scene. They're interested in money. This is why I'm leery of Batoto. Not every scanlator is doing this for free. Some have to maintain server costs, that's fine. Be transparent about it. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On February 13 2012 07:49 SkelA wrote: I dont think they are mad because they are not compesating them. Most scanlator sites use a 24 hour delay period for sites like Mangafox for their releases but they never respect that and thats why everyone shits on Mangafox and Mangahere ( both owned by some chinese company i think ) In a way its about money but mostly they wanna popularize Batoto and their own sites for ppl to read manga instead of Mangafox who are making huge profits from everyone for no work and cant even respect a single rule to delay uploading manga for 24 hours. So I don't get it, whats the point in having a 24 hour delay? Wanting to popularize Batoto is about money, right? Wanting people to read it in their own site is also about money. Sounds to me like the pirates are mad that they are getting pirated. Although, granted, I know next to nothing about this issue. Seems like it would be the same deal as anime-streaming sites and Fansubbers, and who cares about that? On February 13 2012 07:52 Rebs wrote: Im not saying dont use it, I use mangafox I honestly dont care. Thats the logic they present anyway, they want to promote themselves, maybe what Skeia is saying is more accurate Im not privy to that rule, its just of the warning messages they publish on their scans (that ironically appear on mangafox). As for the compensations thats really what I mean, if you want to host it asap then you pay up otherwise delay the release so the host site gets the hits first. Also anime streaming website's offer a convenience, thats an additional service, they are doing "something" to make anime more accessible. For people who cant use torrents or are for whatever reason unable to DDL stuff streaming is actually useful. Thats not quite the same thing. They are actively saying we do more than them to bring you this and we offer the same service come to us. Its not to much to ask in retrospect. How are sites like Mangafox not offering a convenience? | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13092 Posts
On February 13 2012 07:45 Sentenal wrote: Without compensating them? So basically, don't use Mangafox because they steal an already stolen work from scanlators? How does that make sense? Isn't it the same thing with anime-streaming websites? Should people never use them as well? How would you feel if you put alot of work into scanlating series which cost manpower, time, money which you do in your free time and then some shitty guy/company comes and takes it away from you and makes money from it and not even mention you that is your work. Yes its illegal what scanlators do but at least we read our manga because of them and I would gladly support them (Batoto) instead of Mangafox. Anyway Batoto is superior to Mangafox so I dont see any reason why I would use them anymore. The only thing that MF got over Batoto is bigger database of manga because MF is much older and Batoto respects the wishes of every scanlator group. Its easier to follow the manga interests you and the quality is much better compared to Mangafox . | ||
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KazeHydra
Japan2788 Posts
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MichaelEU
Netherlands816 Posts
On February 13 2012 08:05 KazeHydra wrote: I'll just leave this post from Commie regarding this matter here: http://commiesubs.com/the-age-of-fansubbers-and-money/ That's a shit post. They give the right answers to their own imagined problems. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On February 13 2012 08:04 SkelA wrote: How would you feel if you put alot of work into scanlating series which cost manpower, time, money which you do in your free time and then some shitty guy/company comes and takes it away from you and makes money from it and not even mention you that is your work. Yes its illegal what scanlators do but at least we read our manga because of them and I would gladly support them (Batoto) instead of Mangafox. Anyway Batoto is superior to Mangafox so I dont see any reason why I would use them anymore. The only thing that MF got over Batoto is bigger database of manga because MF is much older and Batoto respects the wishes of every scanlator group. Its easier to follow the manga interests you and the quality is much better compared to Mangafox . I don't give money to fansubbers, so why should scanlators be any different? Why should they make money of their illegal distribution of manga? Btw, I've been involved in scanlating before. Was a cleaner for a group that was doing Giant Robo: Day the Earth Burned. I don't care if someone else makes money off that, and I'm sure none of the other guys who worked on that with me cared either. So that "how would you feel" argument doesn't work on me. | ||
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