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iSometric

2221 Posts

July 22 2014 14:58 GMT

#17161

There should be a vote to ban him from trolling these threads. I was stupid enough to win an argument with him back when he said the CP9 used Haki in Water 7 and that Luffy never beat a logia (or something similar) with no effect.

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

July 22 2014 15:00 GMT

#17162

i really dont understand why calling him hakuba while hes asleep is such a big deal

Hyperbola

United States2536 Posts

July 22 2014 16:29 GMT

#17163

I would actually argue that Hakuba and Cavendish are not the same person but are both part of the same person. Hakubadish should be his name. The holy duality, yin and yang. Hakubadish is the new god of OP after enel.

Serejai

6007 Posts

July 22 2014 17:26 GMT

#17164

Sentenal

United States12398 Posts

July 22 2014 18:42 GMT

#17165

On July 23 2014 00:00 Forikorder wrote:
i really dont understand why calling him hakuba while hes asleep is such a big deal

Thats not what you are doing, you are saying Hakuba is a different person from Cavendish. Which is false.

sertas

Sweden883 Posts

July 22 2014 18:52 GMT

#17166

idk im kinda with forikorder on this one

Mensol

14536 Posts

July 22 2014 18:53 GMT

#17167

yes, we believe in you Forikorder.

shark.

593 Posts

July 22 2014 19:03 GMT

#17168

The dudes got a split personality disorder. If one half of his personality is stronger then the other, doesn't make him a different person. It's like if he had one personality that was trained in combat and another that wasn't that wouldn't change the fact that he is Cavendish. If they decide to give each side of his personality different names then it's up to whoever knows about it but it's still the same dude.

If someone has a nice and caring side but can also be provoked into blind fury we wouldn't class them as two different people because that would be dumb.

Necro)Phagist(

Canada6644 Posts

July 22 2014 20:58 GMT

#17169

On July 23 2014 04:03 shark. wrote:
The dudes got a split personality disorder. If one half of his personality is stronger then the other, doesn't make him a different person. It's like if he had one personality that was trained in combat and another that wasn't that wouldn't change the fact that he is Cavendish. If they decide to give each side of his personality different names then it's up to whoever knows about it but it's still the same dude.

If someone has a nice and caring side but can also be provoked into blind fury we wouldn't class them as two different people because that would be dumb.

But it's not just that he is stronger, his appearance changes, attitude changes, personality changes. Literally everything about Hakuba is different. The only thing they share is their body. It's almost more like a ghost possessing someone then multiple personality disorder really xD.

Also while I actually do agree with your main point, comparing multiple personalities to mood swings like being provoked into blind fury is a terrible fucking argument to try and make.

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

July 22 2014 22:06 GMT

#17170

They are the same person in a similar way that Sogeking is Usopp. While at first it was just a disguise for Usopp during the Perona fight he argued with Sogeking and needed him in part of the fight. The root argument was whether Cavendish is strong right? So questioning whether Cavendish is strong when his second personality is difficult to use is a legitimate complaint. Hakuba can only be used when Cavendish falls asleep which leaves him open, but that does seem more reliable than however Sogeking is summoned.

shell

Portugal2722 Posts

July 23 2014 00:21 GMT

#17171

The thing is Hakuba is still cavendish therefore Cavendish is not a chump.

In the same way enel without his fruit power is a chump, right? he has mantra but almost no skill or fighting power outside his fruit.

Capped

United Kingdom7236 Posts

July 23 2014 00:32 GMT

#17172

Since the entirety of one pieces strength is based on willpower. Isn't it feasible for a person with bipolar / split personalities to be both insanely strong and ridiculously weak depending on the emergent personality?

Would be an interesting concept to introduce, at least.

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

July 23 2014 02:46 GMT

#17173

the main thing is though they dont switch out, its like Gaara and Shukaku when Cavendish falls asleep Hakuba can take control which just screams of posession

Mataza

Germany5364 Posts

July 23 2014 03:07 GMT

#17174

On July 23 2014 09:32 Capped wrote:
Since the entirety of one pieces strength is based on willpower. Isn't it feasible for a person with bipolar / split personalities to be both insanely strong and ridiculously weak depending on the emergent personality?

Would be an interesting concept to introduce, at least.

This.
Remember when Nami/Sanji got personality swapped by Law? Who disagrees that Nami in Sanji's body was still a weak fighter?
A body may be strong or weak, but it is the personality that has ingrained the fighting style.

Different personality = different fighting power.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8637 Posts

July 23 2014 05:08 GMT

#17175

first off nami wasnt in sanjis body. i think she was in frankys
either way shed be a shit fighter because she doesnt know how to use the body nor have the knowledge on how to fight.
i remember sanji couldnt do shit in namis body because she was too weak despite his mind wanting to do shit.
different body=different fighting power

Elite_

United States4259 Posts

July 23 2014 06:37 GMT

#17176

On July 23 2014 14:08 evilfatsh1t wrote:
first off nami wasnt in sanjis body. i think she was in frankys
either way shed be a shit fighter because she doesnt know how to use the body nor have the knowledge on how to fight.
i remember sanji couldnt do shit in namis body because she was too weak despite his mind wanting to do shit.
different body=different fighting power

Nami was in Sanji's body after Law returned Chopper and Franky back to normal and Sanji was away in Nami's body.