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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 04 2014 05:23 GMT
#16221
On June 04 2014 14:14 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 13:32 Incognoto wrote:
Romance dawn one is nami + zoro in one person and a definition of what luffy/ace/shanks/whitebeard are, even though it's not explicit in One Piece. I already read the story of Ryuma, which was really good.


What? You referring to the type of pirate thing?

That is one thing I always never got. Why insist on calling yourself a pirate? Luffy and the SH are basically just people setting off adventuring (so are a lot of people) but they all insist to be called pirates. Outside of Norland and Robin's mother don't they have explorers or just people wandering around drifting on the sea. Considering the marines will attack if you say you are one (regardless if you have broken any laws), I would think more people would just say "fuck these labels, I am just sailing the seas".

well they run out on tabs start fights whenever they want and tried to leave skypeia with large amounts of gold

and Nami robs everyplace they visit blind

they dont do much pirating, but they dont do much law abiding neither
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 04 2014 05:43 GMT
#16222
On June 04 2014 14:14 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 13:32 Incognoto wrote:
Romance dawn one is nami + zoro in one person and a definition of what luffy/ace/shanks/whitebeard are, even though it's not explicit in One Piece. I already read the story of Ryuma, which was really good.


What? You referring to the type of pirate thing?

That is one thing I always never got. Why insist on calling yourself a pirate? Luffy and the SH are basically just people setting off adventuring (so are a lot of people) but they all insist to be called pirates. Outside of Norland and Robin's mother don't they have explorers or just people wandering around drifting on the sea. Considering the marines will attack if you say you are one (regardless if you have broken any laws), I would think more people would just say "fuck these labels, I am just sailing the seas".


For Luffy calling yourself a pirate is part of the adventure, so of course he does it. For most of the other pirates, they probably commit crimes, so the marines will call them pirates anyway, so you might as well have a cool flag to intimidate the enemy. As for people who just go around adventuring, and don't incidentally piss off the government (like Luffy does non-stop), they exist. Orlumbus from the arena is one of them, for example. They probably just interract less with the Strawhat crew, since they aren't pirates.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 04 2014 06:09 GMT
#16223
Being a pirate is all about flying a Jolly Roger and doing what you want. That's my interpretation of pirates in One Piece anyway.

Basically, your actions aren't bound by the law and you aren't under anyone's governance. You then see the different possible ways to act while being a pirate. Some steal and plunder (classic pirates, Bluejam, Kuro, lots of small fry). Others actively seek treasure, like Buggy (who also steaks and plunders). Other pirates seek domination and power, those would be Crocodile, Don Krieg, Blackbeard. Whitebeard just wanted a big family. The whole point of being a pirate is being free from any constraints and using your power to follow your ambition, without giving a care about anything else, unlike Marines who follow orders (they also protect people from pirates, at least the good ones do), armies for a country which protect that country or the Revolutionaries who have the active goal of overthrowing the WG.

What separates Luffy from most pirates is that he uses his strength not for domination or wealth and things like that. He, like Shanks, just wants to do whatever he wants. It's the freedom & adventure he's after. The pirate king is the guy who has the most freedom in the world which is why Luffy wants to find One Piece.
maru lover forever
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 04 2014 09:34 GMT
#16224
Yeah, I thought about the explorer thing as well.
To make it short: Luffy wants to be pirates because Shanks is a pirate. So they are pirates.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 04 2014 10:41 GMT
#16225
ohgod the world is a different place knowing that we wont get new chapter for 2 weeks.....
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 04 2014 17:51 GMT
#16226
On June 04 2014 18:34 Mataza wrote:
Yeah, I thought about the explorer thing as well.
To make it short: Luffy wants to be pirates because Shanks is a pirate. So they are pirates.

the straw hats have done some honest pirating
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 04 2014 18:12 GMT
#16227
On June 05 2014 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 18:34 Mataza wrote:
Yeah, I thought about the explorer thing as well.
To make it short: Luffy wants to be pirates because Shanks is a pirate. So they are pirates.

the straw hats have done some honest pirating

I'd say Nami is the most pirate like out of all them, which is funny considering her original hate of pirates.

She manipulates and steals what she wants. Loves treasure and money, drinks like a fish.

But seriously... Can we have time travel now please??? These two weeks are going to kill me...
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 04 2014 19:29 GMT
#16228
I can get by two weeks easily.

I just watch one piece. ez pz
maru lover forever
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 04 2014 19:31 GMT
#16229
We passed the first week guys! Now only next week and then the week after that we get another chapter.

T_T
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
June 04 2014 23:16 GMT
#16230
On June 05 2014 04:29 Incognoto wrote:
I can get by two weeks easily.

I just watch one piece. ez pz


Thats what I have been doing, rereading and watching my fav parts of OP lol.
Never Knows Best.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
June 05 2014 01:22 GMT
#16231
I took a ~12 week break from one piece not too long ago. It wasn't too bad.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 05 2014 03:16 GMT
#16232
On June 05 2014 04:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
We passed the first week guys! Now only next week and then the week after that we get another chapter.

T_T

oh god its only been a week?
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
June 05 2014 03:38 GMT
#16233
It's okay guys, we can pass the time by trying to pass the Naruto thread in total posts. Though that thread (and the Bleach one) is buoyed up by all the shit talk.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 05 2014 06:24 GMT
#16234
On June 05 2014 08:16 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 04:29 Incognoto wrote:
I can get by two weeks easily.

I just watch one piece. ez pz


Thats what I have been doing, rereading and watching my fav parts of OP lol.


Since OP is my favorite I can watch everything from start to finish and be very happy. Not going to lie, I enjoyed the East Blue arc a LOT. Whiskey peak is both good and hilarious as well. Currently in Little Garden, which is also a nice arc. Just like every arc. I filtered out the filler though.

This would be my 4th time watching One Piece from start to finish. It's so fucking long that I can easily just start over when I'm done since what I've seen is so far away from where I currently am. Unfortunately this means I don't watch anything else, I did Fairy Tail once but that's it.
maru lover forever
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
June 05 2014 12:41 GMT
#16235
Never really got into bleach but i followed naruto and that story makes me sad.. Kishimoto never managed to keep the evolution of the powers and skills under control and it's all over..

When they started they were so weak and now Naruto is almost more powerfull then the first Hokage and Sasuke will somehow surpass Madara.. They started by throwing Kunais and now they can send Nukes like Dragon Ball lol!

Look at OP, the series has 18 years (started in 97 right?) and there is like 20 guys or more that would kick luffy's ass no problem! He it will take much more until he is able to be called the number 1

It was been a very logic and progressive adventure within the super siliness of the OP world, shit makes sense even if it's a flying fish with bull horn. it's amazing!
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
June 05 2014 13:13 GMT
#16236
The thing is that Naruto and Bleach were never meant to go on as long as they have. Kishi and Kubo never planned to continue their stories beyond a certain point ( Aizen (or ss?) arc for bleach and I believe Naruto was supposed to end after the Pain arc). Oda on the otherhand doesn't have these problems and isn't being forced to continue the story beyond his original intentions.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 05 2014 13:26 GMT
#16237
On June 05 2014 22:13 shark. wrote:
The thing is that Naruto and Bleach were never meant to go on as long as they have. Kishi and Kubo never planned to continue their stories beyond a certain point ( Aizen (or ss?) arc for bleach and I believe Naruto was supposed to end after the Pain arc). Oda on the otherhand doesn't have these problems and isn't being forced to continue the story beyond his original intentions.

i dont see how it could end with the pain arc with so many akatsuki members running around and Itachi still alive
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 05 2014 14:11 GMT
#16238
On June 05 2014 22:26 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 22:13 shark. wrote:
The thing is that Naruto and Bleach were never meant to go on as long as they have. Kishi and Kubo never planned to continue their stories beyond a certain point ( Aizen (or ss?) arc for bleach and I believe Naruto was supposed to end after the Pain arc). Oda on the otherhand doesn't have these problems and isn't being forced to continue the story beyond his original intentions.

i dont see how it could end with the pain arc with so many akatsuki members running around and Itachi still alive


The original premise of naruto was that he would become hokage. After the pain arc he pretty much became hokage. Im sure it could all have been resolved within a couple of chapters afterwards.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 05 2014 14:27 GMT
#16239
On June 05 2014 23:11 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 22:26 Forikorder wrote:
On June 05 2014 22:13 shark. wrote:
The thing is that Naruto and Bleach were never meant to go on as long as they have. Kishi and Kubo never planned to continue their stories beyond a certain point ( Aizen (or ss?) arc for bleach and I believe Naruto was supposed to end after the Pain arc). Oda on the otherhand doesn't have these problems and isn't being forced to continue the story beyond his original intentions.

i dont see how it could end with the pain arc with so many akatsuki members running around and Itachi still alive


The original premise of naruto was that he would become hokage. After the pain arc he pretty much became hokage. Im sure it could all have been resolved within a couple of chapters afterwards.

thats kinda weak evidence to say it was supposed to end there...
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
June 05 2014 16:33 GMT
#16240
The straw hats are more akin to terrorists than pirates. They go around destabalizing governments, starting revolutions, robbing people, killing politicians, breaking out criminals and generally fucking with the world government. They're insurgents; anime Al-queida.
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