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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
January 09 2014 13:26 GMT
#12221
The main reason of Smoker appearance nowadays is to show the difference between him on the lines and the marine headquarters with their black and white ideals.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18722 Posts
January 09 2014 13:27 GMT
#12222
On January 09 2014 22:22 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:
On January 09 2014 22:13 Slaughter wrote:
Smoker is luffy's Garp.


No thats coby. Smoker has already fallen below luffy


I agree with Slaughter. Coby never was Luffy's level by the way. Smoker might still make admiral and get stronger. Thing is Smoker has been having a bad time with his match ups. First getting his ass handed to him by Hancock, then Law, then Vergo, then Doflamingo. It's not like any of these are push-overs. He's still "only" Vice-admiral.

Garp and Roger have had a very long rivalry, just like Smoker and Luffy. The reason Smoker so desperately wants to take in Luffy is that he's a pirate who doesn't fear death (just like Roger). However they clearly don't hate each other, just like Garp and Roger.

Smoker will power up, as will Tashigi; they'll be fit matches for both Luffy and Zoro. At very least, that's how I see it.


Hmm, yeah you might be right. But I feel no one will progress as fast as the strawhats with exception to coby and helmepo.
But yeah smoker could catch up I guess.

However, I entirely disagree with tashigi. She will never be dangerous to zorro ever. Zorro and tashigis power gap is even larger than luffy and cobys.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 09 2014 13:31 GMT
#12223
Little girl > enel

Previous page convinced me
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 09 2014 13:34 GMT
#12224
You mean Little D. Girl, right?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
January 09 2014 13:39 GMT
#12225
On January 09 2014 22:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
You mean Little D. Girl, right?

That just sounds dirty.

Though Sugar D. Addy would be a hilarious full name for her.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
January 09 2014 14:53 GMT
#12226
On January 09 2014 22:39 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 22:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
You mean Little D. Girl, right?

That just sounds dirty.

Though Sugar D. Addy would be a hilarious full name for her.

I heard that she is supposed to be the love child of Ronal D. Reagan and John D. Rockefeller.

Ronny kept her in his womb for almost 50 years. Absolam told me this, he's really a master spy.
The spy who loved Me...
you no take candle
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
January 09 2014 15:35 GMT
#12227
On January 09 2014 22:09 Cite wrote:
Whats been bugging me about blackbeard's power is: If say Luffy launched a pistol/bullet what have you hardened with haki at blackbeard, wouldnt the main source of luffy's power (the elastic charge up and what not) be transferred to Blackbeard as if he didn't have his Yami Yami anyways (Since haki would allow luffy to "hit" him even though hes logia)? If yes, then wouldnt this be another case of luffy being a natural counter to another person? Since mainly luffy would just need to not be touched by him without haki? I guess the crux of this lies on how long does Blackbeard's DF negate other DFs after being touched once.

That's not how it works. Powers doesn't transfer to Blackbeard (though it was shown that he was able to nullify another's power with some conscious effort). A haki-punch from Luffy will hit regardless of his rubber quality gets nullified the instance he comes into contact with Blackbeard (assuming it even works like that — which it probably doesn't, as Whitebeard was able to send a shockwave during contact with Blackbeard at Marineford). Furthermore, Blackbeard has stated that his logia fruit is unlike other logias in that he can't "evade" attacks by becoming the element, because "Darkness pulls everything in" or something similar. In other words, you don't need haki to attack Blackbeard, though it obviously helps as it makes attacks more powerful.
Afmug
Profile Joined December 2010
58 Posts
January 09 2014 15:44 GMT
#12228
On January 09 2014 16:17 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 07:18 Afmug wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:43 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:31 Afmug wrote:
fuck your discussion, back to moriah. it states in the wikia that "the new world times" has stated that several people report seeing moriah alive and that he is currently hiding in the new world. i am unable to find translated scans for this part of the manga, as it consists of two supplementary pages at the end of chapter 664, which sucky mangareader didn't spend time translating, or scanlating for that matter. now back to your sucky discussion that makes no sense. popped are my corns.

EDIT: source maddafacka

fuck you talk like a 12 year old. we already know moria was hiding somewhere, were talking about whether its possible that hes been captured by doflamingo at some point during the 2 years. and this is one piece DISCUSSION, well discuss whatever we want.

oh no, i am getting attacked because i proposed logical information in a discussionthread! mod, where art thou. whatever, i was just fulfilling my previous post with the information that it lacked, as a sidebar. apparently, the internet is not fond of my sarcasm, which is beyond me, because i couldn't possibly have offended anyone by saying that a discussion was "sucky".

It seems like you tend to antagonize people and then act defensive when they retaliate. I'm not sure how developed your social skills are but usually saying something like "fuck your X" is viewed as an attack. There are actually a million different ways you can phrase your sentences in which you won't garner negative emotional responses. In fact you could have simply eliminated your entire first sentence and just posted "it states in the wikia..." and onwards and people would actually pay attention to what you wrote instead of your negative tone. I know it can be a hard concept to comprehend, but no one is actually out to get you here or anywhere else. So please just tone it down and discuss the manga.

i could think of a witty counter-argument to completely nullify everything you just said, but i deeply respect sents reply to my post, so my respect for the minds working in this thread is once again elevated; atleast i can be sure that someone with adequate brainpower is in the vicinity.

much one piece. such awesome. sad wait, 15th.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 09 2014 15:52 GMT
#12229
I personally find him funny
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 16:07:06
January 09 2014 16:01 GMT
#12230
Oh of course Absalom and Moria are working together or at least were for a little bit. Moria disappeared in plain sight not with his Kage Kage no Mi, but with Absalom's DF the Suke Suke no Mi which can make other people invisible.

Absalom is confirmed to have been at Marineford with the picture and Oda's comment and strongly hinted to have saved Moria.
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_71#Chapter_707.2C_Page_136

I'm pretty sure I knew this already too, but forgot.
Afmug
Profile Joined December 2010
58 Posts
January 09 2014 16:06 GMT
#12231
On January 10 2014 01:01 BlackMagister wrote:
Oh of course Absalom and Moria are working together or at least were for a little bit. Moria disappeared in plain sight not with his Kage Kage no Mi, but with Absalom's DF the Suke Suke no Mi which can make other people invisible.

a very daring assumption, since we have no proof of either, except that dofla mentions that he thought it might have to do with his DF. although, he is second-guessed in the next panel.
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 16:14:10
January 09 2014 16:12 GMT
#12232
On January 09 2014 22:26 Mataza wrote:
Doesn't Doflamingo(and his crew) still remember who the toys are? The part of memory altering is not damn magic, it is part of an ability that has to be controlled by a person(and people make mistakes).
Also, just think of how many people know who Moriah is. He was a Shichibukai. He is literally in the newspaper from time to time.
If turning Moriah into a toy would alter the memories of all the people in the entire world, then the little toymaker Sugar is the DF user with the longest reach of any person in One Piece. She would even outrange Enel, Kizaru and anyone yet to be introduced, because her ability would have to have global range to do that.

So no, I don't think that people remembering Moriah in this case means he is not a toy. I do not buy that a little girl with pseudo-psychic powers is an underling to Doflamingo.
If this was a horror story, the little girl with psychic powers would be the most powerful being in the world. But this is One Piece. I severely doubt that a person without great ambition just is that powerful.

I repeat: Memory altering is an ability, most likely of that little girl, not a fucking magic side effect of the devil fruit. If that ability has global range I will eat my hat. That a single person can use this ability perfectly on everyone on the entire world is just ludicrous in my opinion.


I agree with this. Another reason that i highly doubt that the memory loss is absolute and global, is the fact that we know about it. If nobody was able to remember the people who has been turned into toys, then nobody would be able to tell about the effect, simply because they wouldn't realise that something is wrong.

EDIT:
Disregard - obviously the people turned into toys would be able to tell that people they once knew couldn't remember them anymore. It does however, still seem hard to believe that the fruit had global reach.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
January 09 2014 16:38 GMT
#12233
On January 10 2014 00:44 Afmug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 16:17 Hyperbola wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:18 Afmug wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:43 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:31 Afmug wrote:
fuck your discussion, back to moriah. it states in the wikia that "the new world times" has stated that several people report seeing moriah alive and that he is currently hiding in the new world. i am unable to find translated scans for this part of the manga, as it consists of two supplementary pages at the end of chapter 664, which sucky mangareader didn't spend time translating, or scanlating for that matter. now back to your sucky discussion that makes no sense. popped are my corns.

EDIT: source maddafacka

fuck you talk like a 12 year old. we already know moria was hiding somewhere, were talking about whether its possible that hes been captured by doflamingo at some point during the 2 years. and this is one piece DISCUSSION, well discuss whatever we want.

oh no, i am getting attacked because i proposed logical information in a discussionthread! mod, where art thou. whatever, i was just fulfilling my previous post with the information that it lacked, as a sidebar. apparently, the internet is not fond of my sarcasm, which is beyond me, because i couldn't possibly have offended anyone by saying that a discussion was "sucky".

It seems like you tend to antagonize people and then act defensive when they retaliate. I'm not sure how developed your social skills are but usually saying something like "fuck your X" is viewed as an attack. There are actually a million different ways you can phrase your sentences in which you won't garner negative emotional responses. In fact you could have simply eliminated your entire first sentence and just posted "it states in the wikia..." and onwards and people would actually pay attention to what you wrote instead of your negative tone. I know it can be a hard concept to comprehend, but no one is actually out to get you here or anywhere else. So please just tone it down and discuss the manga.

i could think of a witty counter-argument to completely nullify everything you just said, but i deeply respect sents reply to my post, so my respect for the minds working in this thread is once again elevated; atleast i can be sure that someone with adequate brainpower is in the vicinity.

I'm fairly certain you couldn't if you tried.
Afmug
Profile Joined December 2010
58 Posts
January 09 2014 16:43 GMT
#12234
On January 10 2014 01:38 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 00:44 Afmug wrote:
On January 09 2014 16:17 Hyperbola wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:18 Afmug wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:43 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:31 Afmug wrote:
fuck your discussion, back to moriah. it states in the wikia that "the new world times" has stated that several people report seeing moriah alive and that he is currently hiding in the new world. i am unable to find translated scans for this part of the manga, as it consists of two supplementary pages at the end of chapter 664, which sucky mangareader didn't spend time translating, or scanlating for that matter. now back to your sucky discussion that makes no sense. popped are my corns.

EDIT: source maddafacka

fuck you talk like a 12 year old. we already know moria was hiding somewhere, were talking about whether its possible that hes been captured by doflamingo at some point during the 2 years. and this is one piece DISCUSSION, well discuss whatever we want.

oh no, i am getting attacked because i proposed logical information in a discussionthread! mod, where art thou. whatever, i was just fulfilling my previous post with the information that it lacked, as a sidebar. apparently, the internet is not fond of my sarcasm, which is beyond me, because i couldn't possibly have offended anyone by saying that a discussion was "sucky".

It seems like you tend to antagonize people and then act defensive when they retaliate. I'm not sure how developed your social skills are but usually saying something like "fuck your X" is viewed as an attack. There are actually a million different ways you can phrase your sentences in which you won't garner negative emotional responses. In fact you could have simply eliminated your entire first sentence and just posted "it states in the wikia..." and onwards and people would actually pay attention to what you wrote instead of your negative tone. I know it can be a hard concept to comprehend, but no one is actually out to get you here or anywhere else. So please just tone it down and discuss the manga.

i could think of a witty counter-argument to completely nullify everything you just said, but i deeply respect sents reply to my post, so my respect for the minds working in this thread is once again elevated; atleast i can be sure that someone with adequate brainpower is in the vicinity.

I'm fairly certain you couldn't if you tried.

MODS I AM GETTING LOOKED DOWN UPON AND I DEMAND IMMEDIATE RETALIATION! i dont care one little bitty about what you think, and i wont try, because i wont sully this thread with any more sillyness!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
January 09 2014 16:53 GMT
#12235
On January 10 2014 01:43 Afmug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 01:38 sumsaR wrote:
On January 10 2014 00:44 Afmug wrote:
On January 09 2014 16:17 Hyperbola wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:18 Afmug wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:43 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On January 09 2014 04:31 Afmug wrote:
fuck your discussion, back to moriah. it states in the wikia that "the new world times" has stated that several people report seeing moriah alive and that he is currently hiding in the new world. i am unable to find translated scans for this part of the manga, as it consists of two supplementary pages at the end of chapter 664, which sucky mangareader didn't spend time translating, or scanlating for that matter. now back to your sucky discussion that makes no sense. popped are my corns.

EDIT: source maddafacka

fuck you talk like a 12 year old. we already know moria was hiding somewhere, were talking about whether its possible that hes been captured by doflamingo at some point during the 2 years. and this is one piece DISCUSSION, well discuss whatever we want.

oh no, i am getting attacked because i proposed logical information in a discussionthread! mod, where art thou. whatever, i was just fulfilling my previous post with the information that it lacked, as a sidebar. apparently, the internet is not fond of my sarcasm, which is beyond me, because i couldn't possibly have offended anyone by saying that a discussion was "sucky".

It seems like you tend to antagonize people and then act defensive when they retaliate. I'm not sure how developed your social skills are but usually saying something like "fuck your X" is viewed as an attack. There are actually a million different ways you can phrase your sentences in which you won't garner negative emotional responses. In fact you could have simply eliminated your entire first sentence and just posted "it states in the wikia..." and onwards and people would actually pay attention to what you wrote instead of your negative tone. I know it can be a hard concept to comprehend, but no one is actually out to get you here or anywhere else. So please just tone it down and discuss the manga.

i could think of a witty counter-argument to completely nullify everything you just said, but i deeply respect sents reply to my post, so my respect for the minds working in this thread is once again elevated; atleast i can be sure that someone with adequate brainpower is in the vicinity.

I'm fairly certain you couldn't if you tried.

MODS I AM GETTING LOOKED DOWN UPON AND I DEMAND IMMEDIATE RETALIATION! i dont care one little bitty about what you think, and i wont try, because i wont sully this thread with any more sillyness!


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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 09 2014 17:05 GMT
#12236
Hey guys be civil please.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Afmug
Profile Joined December 2010
58 Posts
January 09 2014 17:13 GMT
#12237
im being civil as shit right here and still recieving the hates. this poor sumsar fellow simply feels the constant need to look down upon my comments and stuff. i feel deeply insulted by him doubting my intellecutal level right now, i didnt think this type of behaviour was allowed on this forum, or perhaps it might have to do with favoritism, but what do i know, i am but a mere zerg drone.

SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
January 09 2014 17:31 GMT
#12238
Man this thread was one of my favorites but now I read it like I read a Bleach chapter .... just skim through pages and not bothering to read.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 09 2014 17:35 GMT
#12239
afmug what you're doing could very well be considered martyring and, if anything, gets you banned. You might want to stop that.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
January 09 2014 17:35 GMT
#12240
On January 10 2014 02:13 Afmug wrote:
im being civil as shit right here and still recieving the hates. this poor sumsar fellow simply feels the constant need to look down upon my comments and stuff. i feel deeply insulted by him doubting my intellecutal level right now, i didnt think this type of behaviour was allowed on this forum, or perhaps it might have to do with favoritism, but what do i know, i am but a mere zerg drone.


Please stop bumping this thread with pointlessness.

If it is Moria I dont see how he will be able to make much of an impact though, this is someone who lost to Luffy pre timeskip and has presumably been captive for at least -some- of the timeskip, what role do you guys expect him to actually play? Informant? Maybe he can provide some cannon fodder?
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