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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Sc2zero7
Profile Joined February 2012
United States574 Posts
October 03 2013 08:01 GMT
#10421
Who wouldn't cry if they saw Zoro IRL.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 08:09:00
October 03 2013 08:08 GMT
#10422
On October 03 2013 09:19 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 08:42 sc2holar wrote:
On October 03 2013 07:36 Sentenal wrote:
On October 03 2013 07:24 sc2holar wrote:
On October 03 2013 07:10 Mataza wrote:
I sure would like to know which kind of "damage marks" Oda would have to put on the panel of a character making a dramatic entrance. Especially what kind of markings should he use when the fight is lopsided, but not a hopeless walkover.
Clearly I need to research more on this topic. Power level differences are obvious from single panels after all, i must have never noticed.
/sarcastic rant

Please take your "clairvoyance" somewhere else, you're spoiling all the good bits for me. /more sarcasm


I liked the chapter. Can't wait for Bartolomeo getting all giddy when or if Zoro somehow notices him. The most serious member of the SH crew meeting the hopeless fanboy, will be so good.


If you read this far you would know that if someone takes damage from an attack, they show it somehow like falling over/crumbling/passing out/showing signs of pain/wounds. People dont take a damaging hit and just stand there as if nothing happened, starting a casual conversation like DD did.

DD just blocked Samjis kick and sarcasticly mocked him. since he doesnt have augment haki i doubt there is a chance for sanji to cause damage.

Is ignorance truly bliss? i really would like to know.

Really, where did they say Sanji didn't have armament haki? Luffy seems to think he has it.

It was stated at some point that during the timeskip Zoro learned augment haki while training with mihawk, while Zoro literally developed a high level of observation haki when he tried to avoid getting molested by okamas 24/7 for 2 years.

Sanji has also shown a very high level of observation haki after the timeskip, on par, perhaps even surpassing luffy but he has not used augment haki post timeskip. in fact, if he could he would naturally have used it against Doflamingo since he wants to protect NAMI SWAAN and the rest at any cost. there is no reason for him to hold back in this situation.

Luffy uses it in like every single attack.

This is simple. Back in Punk Hazard, Law was like "Cesaer is a Logia user, so only people who can clad themselves in haki should fight him." This is clearly referring to Armament Haki, btw. Luffy then replies "Okay, so that means me, Zoro, and Sanji... and I guess you (Law)." This is Luffy saying that Sanji has Armament Haki. GG, thanks for playing. Not being shown to use it isn't the same thing as being unable to use it.

sick burn for our "one piece all knowing scholar" I wonder why he doesn't respond to this :D

Also Oda has stated that monster trio is capable of using both busoshoku and kenbunshoku Haki, just that Zoro is more skilled in the former while sanji in the latter.
MagmaPunch
Profile Joined November 2011
Bulgaria536 Posts
October 03 2013 08:14 GMT
#10423
Of course the monster trio can use Haki and Sensation is absolutely right. By the way, I do not really like the idea of Sanji and Doflamingo fighting. At this point, Doflamingo should practically stomp Sanji. I mean, that guy just beat Law effortlessly (come on, I do not think there is someone who thinks Fujitora interfered, he simply observed).Doflamingo is definitely one of the strongest characters we've seen so far. Even Luffy is supposed to have a very hard fight against him. So, either a fight won't happen or Sanji will get crushed quickly.There is simply no way that Number 3 in Luffy-s crew beats the arc's main villain.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
October 03 2013 08:31 GMT
#10424
On October 03 2013 17:14 MagmaPunch wrote:
Of course the monster trio can use Haki and Sensation is absolutely right. By the way, I do not really like the idea of Sanji and Doflamingo fighting. At this point, Doflamingo should practically stomp Sanji. I mean, that guy just beat Law effortlessly (come on, I do not think there is someone who thinks Fujitora interfered, he simply observed).Doflamingo is definitely one of the strongest characters we've seen so far. Even Luffy is supposed to have a very hard fight against him. So, either a fight won't happen or Sanji will get crushed quickly.There is simply no way that Number 3 in Luffy-s crew beats the arc's main villain.

I don't think he will beat him, but I think he will be able to fight good enough so that they can all retreat
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 03 2013 08:35 GMT
#10425
On October 03 2013 17:31 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 17:14 MagmaPunch wrote:
Of course the monster trio can use Haki and Sensation is absolutely right. By the way, I do not really like the idea of Sanji and Doflamingo fighting. At this point, Doflamingo should practically stomp Sanji. I mean, that guy just beat Law effortlessly (come on, I do not think there is someone who thinks Fujitora interfered, he simply observed).Doflamingo is definitely one of the strongest characters we've seen so far. Even Luffy is supposed to have a very hard fight against him. So, either a fight won't happen or Sanji will get crushed quickly.There is simply no way that Number 3 in Luffy-s crew beats the arc's main villain.

I don't think he will beat him, but I think he will be able to fight good enough so that they can all retreat


this sounds reasonable, I actually found sth interesting on reddit.
look@chopper's statement. Might be again foreshadowing from Oda that Sanji will either hold his own against DoFla or stall long enough for themto get away
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 12:09:32
October 03 2013 11:50 GMT
#10426
On October 03 2013 15:13 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 14:01 flamewheel wrote:
I wouldn't be a fan of Zoro fighting Sanji. I'm not here to discuss power levels, and I enjoy the ambiguity that exists in power differences. Much like people argue that Zoro could fight decently well against Luffy (or even win since swordsman and whatnot) but that won't come to fruition, I wouldn't like to see who's stronger between Z and S.


Zoro would definitely beat Luffy. He'd lose to Enel, though, whom Luffy can beat. So it's a circle.


The thing is we saw a Ben Beckam (Shanks first mate and a guy with a gun with haki bullets) stop Kizaru a light man, arguably the fastest and one of the strongest characters in OP.

So now that Zoro has haki, he has a change against anyone.

Not saying we could defeit Enel and Luffy or otherwise, the thing is garp only had strenght and haki, he didn't even have brains(he is kinda stupid) but he became the strongest marine. Zoro has good strenght, haki and swords, i would say he would have an edge against garp.

So my point is a haki fight, strengh and will power will be even more important than a good DF power.

I would even say that enel would loose pretty much against any younkou and their first mates or best fighters, against all admirals and maybe even some VP's and against some shichibukai and other top off the line pirates.

He has a strong DF(one of the best) and a very strong Observation Haki, but he doesn't have experience, fighting ability, physical strenght, will to fight etc..

He is strong but for instance i bet DD would walk all over him..

My point being: With haki everyone has a chance and within a giving context many of top characters can beath each other.
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 12:09:56
October 03 2013 12:04 GMT
#10427
Yeah, Dofla does indeed seem to care for his crew. I remember his conversation with a dying Monet as well as his reaction when he found baby5 and buffalo. Add "you don't know how shitty my life has been" (something like that) and we're going to start feeling some sympathy for Doflamingo. There's no doubt that he's a pretty damn interesting villain.

Crocodile was horrible to Baroque Works (feeding mr3 to crocs) but I think that's because he didn't see them as nakama. Crocodile has no nakama, aside maybe from Daz Bones.


Furthermore, I've been wondering about Mr 2 lately. If I remember correctly, Magellan got his ass handed to him by the Blackbeard pirates on the way out, correct? It's quite possible that Mr 2 managed to find slip out of Impel Down with his ability. Considering the absolute ruckus that Blackbeard and his mates caused there, I mean.


Edit: That reminds me. Enel's arc, Maxim, was one of the weapons btw. It was the weapon made from Franky's blueprint (which he burned). The Maxim was going to literally destroy Sky Island. That's the power of an ancient weapon, which Crocodile himself mentioned. "The power to destroy an island". Out of the three weapons mentioned up to now, 2 of them have already been revealed. One of them is Poseidon, aka Shirahoshi and her ship, Noah. The other one is Enel's Maxim (good thing he went to the moon eh?). It's actually pretty mind blowing when you think about it.

The question is, what is the third weapon? Where is it?
maru lover forever
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
October 03 2013 12:19 GMT
#10428
On October 03 2013 21:04 Incognoto wrote:
Yeah, Dofla does indeed seem to care for his crew. I remember his conversation with a dying Monet as well as his reaction when he found baby5 and buffalo. Add "you don't know how shitty my life has been" (something like that) and we're going to start feeling some sympathy for Doflamingo. There's no doubt that he's a pretty damn interesting villain.

Crocodile was horrible to Baroque Works (feeding mr3 to crocs) but I think that's because he didn't see them as nakama. Crocodile has no nakama, aside maybe from Daz Bones.


Furthermore, I've been wondering about Mr 2 lately. If I remember correctly, Magellan got his ass handed to him by the Blackbeard pirates on the way out, correct? It's quite possible that Mr 2 managed to find slip out of Impel Down with his ability. Considering the absolute ruckus that Blackbeard and his mates caused there, I mean.


Edit: That reminds me. Enel's arc, Maxim, was one of the weapons btw. It was the weapon made from Franky's blueprint (which he burned). The Maxim was going to literally destroy Sky Island. That's the power of an ancient weapon, which Crocodile himself mentioned. "The power to destroy an island". Out of the three weapons mentioned up to now, 2 of them have already been revealed. One of them is Poseidon, aka Shirahoshi and her ship, Noah. The other one is Enel's Maxim (good thing he went to the moon eh?). It's actually pretty mind blowing when you think about it.

The question is, what is the third weapon? Where is it?


The Pluton weapon? Hidden in alabaska?
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
October 03 2013 12:28 GMT
#10429
Dude you mix up Enel's ark with Pluton's weapon that Franky had, not the same thing.
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
October 03 2013 12:42 GMT
#10430
--- Nuked ---
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 03 2013 13:03 GMT
#10431
On October 03 2013 21:42 Dattish wrote:
The third weapon is Uranus, Robin mentioned it while speaking to the King of Fishman Island.

Inb4 it will be the power to turn enemies into allies(alias known as luffy for third weapon).
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
October 03 2013 13:16 GMT
#10432
Mr 2 is new newkama queen

Croc and bones are bros
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 03 2013 13:47 GMT
#10433
On October 03 2013 22:03 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 21:42 Dattish wrote:
The third weapon is Uranus, Robin mentioned it while speaking to the King of Fishman Island.

Inb4 it will be the power to turn enemies into allies(alias known as luffy for third weapon).


The third weapon is the will of D! :B

Lol just kidding but that's not a bad guess.

maru lover forever
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 14:15:04
October 03 2013 14:14 GMT
#10434
On October 03 2013 21:04 Incognoto wrote:
Yeah, Dofla does indeed seem to care for his crew. I remember his conversation with a dying Monet as well as his reaction when he found baby5 and buffalo. Add "you don't know how shitty my life has been" (something like that) and we're going to start feeling some sympathy for Doflamingo. There's no doubt that he's a pretty damn interesting villain.

Crocodile was horrible to Baroque Works (feeding mr3 to crocs) but I think that's because he didn't see them as nakama. Crocodile has no nakama, aside maybe from Daz Bones.


Furthermore, I've been wondering about Mr 2 lately. If I remember correctly, Magellan got his ass handed to him by the Blackbeard pirates on the way out, correct? It's quite possible that Mr 2 managed to find slip out of Impel Down with his ability. Considering the absolute ruckus that Blackbeard and his mates caused there, I mean.


Edit: That reminds me. Enel's arc, Maxim, was one of the weapons btw. It was the weapon made from Franky's blueprint (which he burned). The Maxim was going to literally destroy Sky Island. That's the power of an ancient weapon, which Crocodile himself mentioned. "The power to destroy an island". Out of the three weapons mentioned up to now, 2 of them have already been revealed. One of them is Poseidon, aka Shirahoshi and her ship, Noah. The other one is Enel's Maxim (good thing he went to the moon eh?). It's actually pretty mind blowing when you think about it.

The question is, what is the third weapon? Where is it?

People are absolutely insane thinking Enel can be beaten riding on his ancient weapon by the any of the yonko or even all 4 combine their strengths couldn't even lay a finger on Enel and maxim whom camps above orbit of the planet and send down balls of gigantic lightning to wipe out one island after another. And because of his fruit ability he has a 10km range on his observation haki, now combine that with his speed of lightning anything nothing can touch him. Even Kizaru would need someone to spot where the maxim is before he can use his speed of light to get close to maxim. Enel's title is god for a very good reason.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
October 03 2013 14:18 GMT
#10435
On October 03 2013 23:14 rei wrote:
Enel's title is god for a very good reason.


Mostly because he was on an island where everyone was terrible.
playnice
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia302 Posts
October 03 2013 14:21 GMT
#10436
On October 03 2013 23:14 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 21:04 Incognoto wrote:
Yeah, Dofla does indeed seem to care for his crew. I remember his conversation with a dying Monet as well as his reaction when he found baby5 and buffalo. Add "you don't know how shitty my life has been" (something like that) and we're going to start feeling some sympathy for Doflamingo. There's no doubt that he's a pretty damn interesting villain.

Crocodile was horrible to Baroque Works (feeding mr3 to crocs) but I think that's because he didn't see them as nakama. Crocodile has no nakama, aside maybe from Daz Bones.


Furthermore, I've been wondering about Mr 2 lately. If I remember correctly, Magellan got his ass handed to him by the Blackbeard pirates on the way out, correct? It's quite possible that Mr 2 managed to find slip out of Impel Down with his ability. Considering the absolute ruckus that Blackbeard and his mates caused there, I mean.


Edit: That reminds me. Enel's arc, Maxim, was one of the weapons btw. It was the weapon made from Franky's blueprint (which he burned). The Maxim was going to literally destroy Sky Island. That's the power of an ancient weapon, which Crocodile himself mentioned. "The power to destroy an island". Out of the three weapons mentioned up to now, 2 of them have already been revealed. One of them is Poseidon, aka Shirahoshi and her ship, Noah. The other one is Enel's Maxim (good thing he went to the moon eh?). It's actually pretty mind blowing when you think about it.

The question is, what is the third weapon? Where is it?

People are absolutely insane thinking Enel can be beaten riding on his ancient weapon by the any of the yonko or even all 4 combine their strengths couldn't even lay a finger on Enel and maxim whom camps above orbit of the planet and send down balls of gigantic lightning to wipe out one island after another. And because of his fruit ability he has a 10km range on his observation haki, now combine that with his speed of lightning anything nothing can touch him. Even Kizaru would need someone to spot where the maxim is before he can use his speed of light to get close to maxim. Enel's title is god for a very good reason.

Must... resist ....
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 03 2013 14:27 GMT
#10437
Why are we doing this again
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 15:10:12
October 03 2013 15:07 GMT
#10438
Rei you troll! ^^

No I wanted to discuss only his weapon, Maxim. It's truly an ancient weapon when you think about it, maybe the blueprints got stolen or copied or something. I mean, an ancient weapon in One Piece refers to a great and terrible power that can destroy or sink island's.

That's exactly what Maxim almost did. You just have to connect the dots here, this can't be just a coincidence.

edit:

On October 03 2013 17:01 Sc2zero7 wrote:
Who wouldn't cry if they saw Zoro IRL.


Tashigi.
maru lover forever
playnice
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia302 Posts
October 03 2013 15:10 GMT
#10439
On October 04 2013 00:07 Incognoto wrote:
Rei you troll! ^^

No I wanted to discuss only his weapon, Maxim. It's truly an ancient weapon when you think about it, maybe the blueprints got stolen or copied or something. I mean, an ancient weapon in One Piece refers to a great and terrible power that can destroy or sink island's.

That's exactly what Maxim almost did. You just have to connect the dots here, this can't be just a coincidence.

Maxim won't work without the DF's power. The ancient weapon won't be that sought after if it is tied to a particular DF.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 03 2013 15:13 GMT
#10440
On October 04 2013 00:10 playnice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 00:07 Incognoto wrote:
Rei you troll! ^^

No I wanted to discuss only his weapon, Maxim. It's truly an ancient weapon when you think about it, maybe the blueprints got stolen or copied or something. I mean, an ancient weapon in One Piece refers to a great and terrible power that can destroy or sink island's.

That's exactly what Maxim almost did. You just have to connect the dots here, this can't be just a coincidence.

Maxim won't work without the DF's power. The ancient weapon won't be that sought after if it is tied to a particular DF.

and it can only work in the special atmosphere of high in the sky as soon as it comes lower it stops working
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