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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 07 2013 07:05 GMT
#8921
yeah no one piece next week cause there is no Jump next so haha.

brb reading chapter.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 07 2013 07:34 GMT
#8922
I hope we will get an explanation for why doflamingo turned people into toys, and why people forgot that they used to be human. such a random thing from oda to throw in there
you no take candle
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 07 2013 07:46 GMT
#8923
I want more and I want it faster. I want to see Luffy's fight.
maru lover forever
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 07 2013 08:08 GMT
#8924
+ Show Spoiler +
Looks like Law is being smacked around T_T
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Zeo1990
Profile Joined October 2011
United States132 Posts
August 07 2013 08:16 GMT
#8925
im calling it now. The dwarf princess is probably the one with the toy-maker devil fruit whom DF captured and is forcing her to use her power on Dressrosa citizens....although im not sure who can erase peoples memories of them...perhaps DF himself can do it? like with some more subtly abstract "strings" he pulls/manipulates in peoples minds?
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 07 2013 08:17 GMT
#8926
And that will be the reason of the whole country kicking out dofla, he has been dictating the country for manipulating memories and torturing the people (who disobey him etc) by turning them into toys....why you so evil dofla >
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Uhnno
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands288 Posts
August 07 2013 08:41 GMT
#8927
The reason why the pirates/criminals aren't coming out of the colosseum must be that they were send to the factory in the basement. All the puzzles pieces are falling in place now. Oda you genius!
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
August 07 2013 08:46 GMT
#8928
Okay, I laughed way more than I should, lol.

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靈魂交響曲
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
August 07 2013 08:53 GMT
#8929
When luffy find out about the toys he'll fight Don Flam, this will be his first real confrontation in New World. The people will be rejoiced about Luffy saving them and this will be his 2nd "protectorate" town (first is Fish Island)

Which makes my earlier thoughts about the crew getting Ace's fruit and running away completely wrong.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
illusiongamer
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico377 Posts
August 07 2013 09:08 GMT
#8930
On August 07 2013 17:46 Fishball wrote:
Okay, I laughed way more than I should, lol.

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after 2 years, they grow up
"I'm such a fan of hooking" - Kaci Aitchison TI2013
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 07 2013 09:13 GMT
#8931
I thought that this was a really good chapter. I greatly prefer these sorts of "talking" chapters over fighting chapters. Might be just me but the recent fighting chapters where nothing has been revealed have been rather mediocre to me.

I kind of wonder why the factory is under the colosseum. I can think of a few reasons - sending all the losing gladiators there either to work or sacrifices, and to get Devil Fruits from when gladiators with such powers die. Hopefully more will be revealed soon.

I think that it's pretty random that no one remembers the toys - Why is their memory erased? Why is Rebecca's not(Is she some sort of a seer / psi user or...)? I hope that there's a good explanation for both of these questions.

I wonder if we'll see Cavendish and the other pirates teaming up with Luffy in order to escape from the marines. I'm rather eager to learn more about their abilities. Still, the story is picking up really nicely and I hope that the next chapter will continue developing the story further - Enough pointless fights already.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 07 2013 09:36 GMT
#8932
Chinjao crying? Why?
maru lover forever
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2849 Posts
August 07 2013 09:39 GMT
#8933
On August 07 2013 18:13 Shikyo wrote:
I kind of wonder why the factory is under the colosseum. I can think of a few reasons - sending all the losing gladiators there either to work or sacrifices, and to get Devil Fruits from when gladiators with such powers die. Hopefully more will be revealed soon.

As far as I know, the way it works is that when a DF user dies, the fruit will more or less randomly appear in the world somewhere afterwards - only Blackbeard has shown he can extract a power from a dead/dying DF user (correct me if I'm forgetting something here).
Fleshcut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany592 Posts
August 07 2013 09:57 GMT
#8934
On August 07 2013 18:13 Shikyo wrote:
I thought that this was a really good chapter. I greatly prefer these sorts of "talking" chapters over fighting chapters. Might be just me but the recent fighting chapters where nothing has been revealed have been rather mediocre to me.

I kind of wonder why the factory is under the colosseum. I can think of a few reasons - sending all the losing gladiators there either to work or sacrifices, and to get Devil Fruits from when gladiators with such powers die. Hopefully more will be revealed soon.

I think that it's pretty random that no one remembers the toys - Why is their memory erased? Why is Rebecca's not(Is she some sort of a seer / psi user or...)? I hope that there's a good explanation for both of these questions.

I wonder if we'll see Cavendish and the other pirates teaming up with Luffy in order to escape from the marines. I'm rather eager to learn more about their abilities. Still, the story is picking up really nicely and I hope that the next chapter will continue developing the story further - Enough pointless fights already.


I didn't like this chapter because it didn't answer anything, it just brought up more questions for me. Like why is Quinjao crying? What did actually Garp do to him that even Quinjao doesn't remember it? If someone turns people into toys why are their memories erased? Regardingin Rebecca, I can say that she might be a haki user who blocked the forgetting part or she just got to know that toy AFTER he was made a toy. Maybe that toy is the bronze statue guy and that's why she admires him I just don't like it if someone makes it more complicated and then doesn't answer the questions for another 2 long weeks. Annoys me. I'd rather have a nice fight again and proceed the story during a time where a chapter hits us once a week.

Also, how will Law get away from there? :S Robin and Usopp seem to go to the colosseum right now which means that they left Law with a bunch of marines including an admiral and Dofla.

At the end I can only see those pirates gang up on the marines and Doflas people. Just imagine Luffy, Burgess, Cavendish, Quinjao, Bartolomeo etc. against vice-admirals and a huge flock of marines and Diamante from Dofla's crew.

Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 07 2013 10:10 GMT
#8935
With all the things happening in the factory, I wonder these things fit together.

Artificial devilfruits are made, people are turned into toys and humans lose memory of those humans My first instinct is that the smile can only be made when a human is reduced to a toy.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
August 07 2013 10:12 GMT
#8936
I dont get why Sanji and Samauri need to hide from the marines, isn't that what their disguise is for?
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 10:38:06
August 07 2013 10:37 GMT
#8937
Guys you need to be patience with the tempo of OP. What I learnt that from Skypaea is that everything will be worth it in the end. Every little pieces in every chapter is there because it is needed. This arc is going to be as epic as always.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
divinesage
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore649 Posts
August 07 2013 10:57 GMT
#8938
On August 07 2013 18:57 Fleshcut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 18:13 Shikyo wrote:
I thought that this was a really good chapter. I greatly prefer these sorts of "talking" chapters over fighting chapters. Might be just me but the recent fighting chapters where nothing has been revealed have been rather mediocre to me.

I kind of wonder why the factory is under the colosseum. I can think of a few reasons - sending all the losing gladiators there either to work or sacrifices, and to get Devil Fruits from when gladiators with such powers die. Hopefully more will be revealed soon.

I think that it's pretty random that no one remembers the toys - Why is their memory erased? Why is Rebecca's not(Is she some sort of a seer / psi user or...)? I hope that there's a good explanation for both of these questions.

I wonder if we'll see Cavendish and the other pirates teaming up with Luffy in order to escape from the marines. I'm rather eager to learn more about their abilities. Still, the story is picking up really nicely and I hope that the next chapter will continue developing the story further - Enough pointless fights already.


I didn't like this chapter because it didn't answer anything, it just brought up more questions for me. Like why is Quinjao crying? What did actually Garp do to him that even Quinjao doesn't remember it? If someone turns people into toys why are their memories erased? Regardingin Rebecca, I can say that she might be a haki user who blocked the forgetting part or she just got to know that toy AFTER he was made a toy. Maybe that toy is the bronze statue guy and that's why she admires him I just don't like it if someone makes it more complicated and then doesn't answer the questions for another 2 long weeks. Annoys me. I'd rather have a nice fight again and proceed the story during a time where a chapter hits us once a week.

Also, how will Law get away from there? :S Robin and Usopp seem to go to the colosseum right now which means that they left Law with a bunch of marines including an admiral and Dofla.

At the end I can only see those pirates gang up on the marines and Doflas people. Just imagine Luffy, Burgess, Cavendish, Quinjao, Bartolomeo etc. against vice-admirals and a huge flock of marines and Diamante from Dofla's crew.



This is exactly why it's good. There's plot progression because new revalations lead to new questions. Oda has always been slow and meticulous in unravelling the plot. Enjoy the ride.
b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 11:05:16
August 07 2013 11:04 GMT
#8939
that explains why no one remembers the real identity of the legendary bronze guy. and the one who's erasing memories got to do it while everyone's sleeping, the girl before with sanji was dofla's team so her memories wasn't erased. the reason why toys and humans get along is because the toys know the truth

seeing how this tournament goes, all the guys who lost are turned into toys/ingredients for smile?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 07 2013 12:30 GMT
#8940
Oh wow, I didn't even consider that b3n3tt3.

In fact, there could be a lot of hints and tidbits that were glossed over as a part of memory loss.

Seems like the tournament will probably get cut short, which would be very Oda. Probably will get to the next round to show off Rebecca or Cavendish, and probably even the round after that to set Dofla's crew against Luffy's, and give time for Bellamy to come to a decision and at least attempt an assassination before that.

Anyway, I like that more questions were raised. I'm sick of boring 1-plot-dimension islands. Fishman Island was so linear for my mind. Big Mam's slice on the island was the only interesting thing for me there.

I guess the current subplot list goes like:
+ Show Spoiler +
- Dwarf Kingdom: trying to rescue princess. Extremely indebted to Norland.
- Law: vs Admiral and Shichibukai.
- CP0: Here just to placate the citizens? I don't really think so.
- Rebecca, toy solider + Ricky: what connection do they all have? Who was the toy beforehand?
- Chinjau: What did Garp take from him? What is locked in his past?
- Ace's Devil Fruit: What will be the destiny for this power? Is it even a real fruit?
- Samurais: What's their proper stake in all this?
- Toys: What people have been locked away with their pasts stolen? Who is doing this? For what purpose? If they wanted to silence them, why not just kill them off?
- Doflamingo's Laws: why do they exist?
- Bellamy: What will he decide? What really happened on Sky Island? I'm actually looking forward to a heartwarming flashback here.
- Marines: If they're there to arrest some potentially pretty big names (Luffy, Law, Cavendish, Barty, others?) who else have they brought along? If a buster call is 5 VAs, we're already at 1 A and 2 VAs. It's already a huge operation.
- Barty: What is his connection to Luffy?
- Blackbeard wrestler guy: What sort of spanner would such a powerhouse put into the whole thing?
- Doflamingo: Still so much more to know about the big bad for this arc.


I love such a complicated arc. Honestly this looks already more complicated than Shabondy.
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