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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 05 2013 06:57 GMT
#8361
On July 05 2013 11:38 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
Also, while looking into Oars Jr, I noticed that Ace learned how to make Oar's hat in the country of Wano. I wonder if Wano was one of the countries under the protection of Whitebeard. Perhaps his death had something to do with why Kinemon and Kanjuro left Wano on their voyage.


i highly doubt that im pretty sure Wano was introduced as the super isolation island that allowed noone in it and protected by the SAmurai


That doesn't mean anyone can't get in. I'm sure Ace managed to at some point.
maru lover forever
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 07:25:28
July 05 2013 07:20 GMT
#8362
Woah. Mangastream just completely changed their layout. That ad on the right is going to get annoying... even if you do adblock it.
edit: You think maybe fujitora's fruit is something really simple like a "push" or "force" fruit where he can just pull meteorites down from the sky, stop things or cave the floor in?
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17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
July 05 2013 08:57 GMT
#8363
I've been trying to figure out the power of Fujitora and I do have to agree with Hyperbola. Maybe it is just some extreme form of Pain's power with a push and pull. I don't know how it is related to unsheating his sword though but maybe that how he directs it?

I looked back at Chapter 701 and maybe the reason the crooks were "pinned down" was the "push" was directly towards them via where the blade was facing.

If you look at Chapter 713, he actually something like Battoujutsu on page 8 where it looks like he actually "resheathe his sword" or something to point it upwards and the force basically was directed towards the heavens to pull something back down (funny if it ended up being a NASA Satellite hehe!). Page 10 has him unsheathe his sword again to "repel" the meteor so as not to damage him.

If you look how he repels in those two occassions, neither of them had him pointing towards Law or Doflamingo so I they weren't pinned down unlike those at chapter 701. That's my guess at least.
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
July 07 2013 17:47 GMT
#8364
On July 04 2013 07:39 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 07:32 hooahah wrote:
Just roll with it, some DFs just happen to overlap a bit (like Ace/Akainu)

Right, I had a bit of an issue with Ace/Akainu.

I guess it's something like Blackbeard able to make himself into a black hole.. .While fujitora could control other objects and their gravities towards other objects or something like that. Is he even a logia?



I hope he and the other admiral are not logia. I always thought it was lame that the admirals were all logias.
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
Wedde
Profile Joined February 2013
Denmark126 Posts
July 07 2013 19:38 GMT
#8365
Yes we need fewer logia people so, Usopp has a chance to crush them
I do not want to be a hero
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
July 07 2013 19:41 GMT
#8366
On July 08 2013 04:38 Wedde wrote:
Yes we need fewer logia people so, Usopp has a chance to crush them


Hes going to get Haki eventually dont worry about it.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1094 Posts
July 07 2013 20:04 GMT
#8367
On July 05 2013 11:38 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
Also, while looking into Oars Jr, I noticed that Ace learned how to make Oar's hat in the country of Wano. I wonder if Wano was one of the countries under the protection of Whitebeard. Perhaps his death had something to do with why Kinemon and Kanjuro left Wano on their voyage.


i highly doubt that im pretty sure Wano was introduced as the super isolation island that allowed noone in it and protected by the SAmurai

Ace somehow got in and was seemingly friendly with the people of Wano. Perhaps it wasn't a Whitebeard protectorate, but the country was at least friendly to one of Whitebeard's top officers. I wonder if Kinemon and co were going to pay their respects at Ace and Whitebeard's grave.

On July 08 2013 04:41 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 04:38 Wedde wrote:
Yes we need fewer logia people so, Usopp has a chance to crush them


Hes going to get Haki eventually dont worry about it.

Nah, Usopp will never get armament haki, it just doesn't seem to be in his personality, but maybe observation haki. However, I'd bet that he'll eventually incorporate kairoseki into his weapon... he's already used kairoseki handcuffs as a shot against Caesar.

Also, the way Kizaru backed down against Ben Beckman, it makes me wonder if he had kairoseki bullets loaded. It seems like kairoseki has been forgotten with all the Haki talk, but I'd expect a powerful crew to have access to a decent supply of it and it has always seemed more surefire than Haki.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 20:31:55
July 07 2013 20:30 GMT
#8368
On July 04 2013 10:11 ore0z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 08:17 Prog455 wrote:
On July 04 2013 07:39 Shikyo wrote:
On July 04 2013 07:32 hooahah wrote:
Just roll with it, some DFs just happen to overlap a bit (like Ace/Akainu)

Right, I had a bit of an issue with Ace/Akainu.

I guess it's something like Blackbeard able to make himself into a black hole.. .While fujitora could control other objects and their gravities towards other objects or something like that. Is he even a logia?


With the Yami Yami fruit i think the definition of logias have been stretched a bit. Aside from controlling an element, i always thought that what defined a logia was the ability to turn into that element. This is obviously not true since Blackbeard can no turn into Darkness. Personally i don't see how the Darkness fruit can be a logia when for instance Magellans fruit is paramecia.

With Blackbeard, it feels more like the logia's fruit affect on how the user turns into their element. Instead of being able to dissipate, it's just the opposite, so he takes more damage than normal. It's not that he can't turn into darkness, it's that he's essentially darkness all the time because of the fruit's powers. It's like going towards negative numbers, while logias are going towards positive.
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Marshall_D._Teach#Yami_Yami_no_Mi


I really like your thinking about a negative directed Logia, but I always thought BB can be hit, because he cannot let things get through him. Like things can get to a dark hole, but not out/away. Still this is not a satisfying explanation for me. His fruit is called the darkness-logia fruit, not the black hole-fruit.

I think we need to discuss what darkness is: The definition says that darkness is the absence of visible light and the only thing which can suck up light (atm?) is gravity. As soon gravity has reached the point where it sucks in light, it´s called Black Hole. No transition zone. So we can say that every time he uses his abilities he creates a black hole. (Even when he is not using his black hole skill)
I do keep in my mind that the whole planet would be crushed if BB summons a black hole, but please it´s One Piece^^.

Well so in my opinion he is like a gravity-logia user (with some special extras^^) and fujitora could have some gravity-paramecia powers.
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 07 2013 21:54 GMT
#8369
If it is just magical darkness(whihc is quite common in fiction), then there is no need for actual black holes everytime something goes dark. Don't always use astrophysic when talking about this manga.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 08 2013 07:05 GMT
#8370
On July 08 2013 05:04 RenSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 11:38 Forikorder wrote:
Also, while looking into Oars Jr, I noticed that Ace learned how to make Oar's hat in the country of Wano. I wonder if Wano was one of the countries under the protection of Whitebeard. Perhaps his death had something to do with why Kinemon and Kanjuro left Wano on their voyage.


i highly doubt that im pretty sure Wano was introduced as the super isolation island that allowed noone in it and protected by the SAmurai

Ace somehow got in and was seemingly friendly with the people of Wano. Perhaps it wasn't a Whitebeard protectorate, but the country was at least friendly to one of Whitebeard's top officers. I wonder if Kinemon and co were going to pay their respects at Ace and Whitebeard's grave.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 04:41 GettingIt wrote:
On July 08 2013 04:38 Wedde wrote:
Yes we need fewer logia people so, Usopp has a chance to crush them


Hes going to get Haki eventually dont worry about it.

Nah, Usopp will never get armament haki, it just doesn't seem to be in his personality, but maybe observation haki. However, I'd bet that he'll eventually incorporate kairoseki into his weapon... he's already used kairoseki handcuffs as a shot against Caesar.

Also, the way Kizaru backed down against Ben Beckman, it makes me wonder if he had kairoseki bullets loaded. It seems like kairoseki has been forgotten with all the Haki talk, but I'd expect a powerful crew to have access to a decent supply of it and it has always seemed more surefire than Haki.


Nah, the other way around is how I feel it. Kairoseki is a weapon of the weak used against someone more powerful than yourself. Beckman is no weakling so we can probably assume that his rifle was loaded with Haki. Kairoseki is also something I think that only the Marines or the WG have access to, iirc it's something pretty rare that comes from a remote part of the ocean. Not easy for a single ship pirate-crew to get a hold of that.
maru lover forever
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#8371
He loaded his "aura" into a gun instead of bullets made from any physical substance?
I think you might want to rephrase or rethink that statement.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
July 08 2013 12:07 GMT
#8372
On July 08 2013 20:58 Mataza wrote:
He loaded his "aura" into a gun instead of bullets made from any physical substance?
I think you might want to rephrase or rethink that statement.


well, Mr.5 has already used his breath as bullets so
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
July 08 2013 12:11 GMT
#8373
Ben Beckman more than likely uses Haki infused bulluts similar to how people infuse their haki into swords.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 12:22:54
July 08 2013 12:13 GMT
#8374
The Kuja pirates use Haki to strengthen their arrows. I'd bet a few dollars that Ben Beckman as Shanks' first mate can do the same with his gun. Actually I'm pretty sure most of Shanks' higher ups know how to use Haki. Yasopp for example, would bet he's got it too. The big fat guy whose name I forget, probably as well.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 09 2013 08:37 GMT
#8375
YOU GOT KNOCKED THE F*CK OUT
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 09 2013 08:39 GMT
#8376
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/714

+ Show Spoiler +
already knew this on monday when early spoilers were released but didn't want to post it here, but seems like It's true that someone in DF'S crew has a df which is responsible for the toys.
chopper looks epic.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 09 2013 08:40 GMT
#8377
New chapter is out! Yay! Care spoilers

+ Show Spoiler +
DAMN, how do you fit so much plot advancement in such a small chapter!?
Luffy owning it up in arena, Barto apparently has a bone with Luffy, we know where the toys come from, etc. damn damn damn
maru lover forever
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
July 09 2013 08:55 GMT
#8378
Brooooooook, the scream-face^^
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Elerris
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia137 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 08:57:59
July 09 2013 08:57 GMT
#8379
I may be retarded, but was that Jango or however you spell it in the panel with Bellamy?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 09 2013 09:01 GMT
#8380
On July 09 2013 17:57 Elerris wrote:
I may be retarded, but was that Jango or however you spell it in the panel with Bellamy?


that was diamante, but I guess you could call him django since he's the leader of the colosseum lol

pretty obvious at this points that bellamy will side with luffy later against doflamingo
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