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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
July 03 2013 20:27 GMT
#8341
On July 04 2013 05:04 Mataza wrote:
Just because Fuji uses a sword while doing his thing, doesn't mean he needs it. For example Law uses a sword for his room ability too, but he still has the ability even without a sword.

Technically Law gestures with his hand when using his DF power. He just slashes things affected by the DF with the sword.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 03 2013 22:10 GMT
#8342
On July 04 2013 05:27 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 05:04 Mataza wrote:
Just because Fuji uses a sword while doing his thing, doesn't mean he needs it. For example Law uses a sword for his room ability too, but he still has the ability even without a sword.

Technically Law gestures with his hand when using his DF power. He just slashes things affected by the DF with the sword.

Point being that an ability that is used with a sword doesn't have to be tied to the sword.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 22:22:34
July 03 2013 22:21 GMT
#8343
This chapter was really good, better than the last one. Covered many many things, showed some amazing things, foreshadowed future chapters with amazing things...


Mostly I'm wondering wtf Fujitora's power is and apparently people enjoy speculating about that as well. BTW it shouldn't be gravity as Blackbeard has that.. unless they somehow differentiate it clearly.


By the way I'm pretty sure that Law doesn't actually have to use his sword with his Room, it could be anything else.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
July 03 2013 22:25 GMT
#8344
On July 04 2013 07:21 Shikyo wrote:
This chapter was really good, better than the last one. Covered many many things, showed some amazing things, foreshadowed future chapters with amazing things...


Mostly I'm wondering wtf Fujitora's power is and apparently people enjoy speculating about that as well. BTW it shouldn't be gravity as Blackbeard has that.. unless they somehow differentiate it clearly.


By the way I'm pretty sure that Law doesn't actually have to use his sword with his Room, it could be anything else.


Blackbeard's fruits are darkness and earthquakes what have you been reading?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 22:29:10
July 03 2013 22:27 GMT
#8345
On July 04 2013 07:25 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 07:21 Shikyo wrote:
This chapter was really good, better than the last one. Covered many many things, showed some amazing things, foreshadowed future chapters with amazing things...


Mostly I'm wondering wtf Fujitora's power is and apparently people enjoy speculating about that as well. BTW it shouldn't be gravity as Blackbeard has that.. unless they somehow differentiate it clearly.


By the way I'm pretty sure that Law doesn't actually have to use his sword with his Room, it could be anything else.


Blackbeard's fruits are darkness and earthquakes what have you been reading?

Darkness is gravity! The power to pull everything in... and spare not even a ray of light!... Infinite gravity! ”
— Marshall D. Teach


I've been reading One Piece.

Black Hole is a technique of his.... Which has the most gravity in the universe(known)?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
July 03 2013 22:32 GMT
#8346
Just roll with it, some DFs just happen to overlap a bit (like Ace/Akainu)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 03 2013 22:39 GMT
#8347
On July 04 2013 07:32 hooahah wrote:
Just roll with it, some DFs just happen to overlap a bit (like Ace/Akainu)

Right, I had a bit of an issue with Ace/Akainu.

I guess it's something like Blackbeard able to make himself into a black hole.. .While fujitora could control other objects and their gravities towards other objects or something like that. Is he even a logia?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
July 03 2013 22:40 GMT
#8348
On July 04 2013 07:27 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 07:25 GettingIt wrote:
On July 04 2013 07:21 Shikyo wrote:
This chapter was really good, better than the last one. Covered many many things, showed some amazing things, foreshadowed future chapters with amazing things...


Mostly I'm wondering wtf Fujitora's power is and apparently people enjoy speculating about that as well. BTW it shouldn't be gravity as Blackbeard has that.. unless they somehow differentiate it clearly.


By the way I'm pretty sure that Law doesn't actually have to use his sword with his Room, it could be anything else.


Blackbeard's fruits are darkness and earthquakes what have you been reading?

Darkness is gravity! The power to pull everything in... and spare not even a ray of light!... Infinite gravity! ”
— Marshall D. Teach


I've been reading One Piece.

Black Hole is a technique of his.... Which has the most gravity in the universe(known)?


Sure it uses gravity, but that doesn't mean there couldn't be a gravity fruit as well.
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
July 03 2013 23:17 GMT
#8349
On July 04 2013 07:39 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 07:32 hooahah wrote:
Just roll with it, some DFs just happen to overlap a bit (like Ace/Akainu)

Right, I had a bit of an issue with Ace/Akainu.

I guess it's something like Blackbeard able to make himself into a black hole.. .While fujitora could control other objects and their gravities towards other objects or something like that. Is he even a logia?


With the Yami Yami fruit i think the definition of logias have been stretched a bit. Aside from controlling an element, i always thought that what defined a logia was the ability to turn into that element. This is obviously not true since Blackbeard can no turn into Darkness. Personally i don't see how the Darkness fruit can be a logia when for instance Magellans fruit is paramecia.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2547 Posts
July 04 2013 00:43 GMT
#8350
Bwahahaha
This is my favorite part of the chapter:
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ore0z
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania161 Posts
July 04 2013 01:11 GMT
#8351
On July 04 2013 08:17 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 07:39 Shikyo wrote:
On July 04 2013 07:32 hooahah wrote:
Just roll with it, some DFs just happen to overlap a bit (like Ace/Akainu)

Right, I had a bit of an issue with Ace/Akainu.

I guess it's something like Blackbeard able to make himself into a black hole.. .While fujitora could control other objects and their gravities towards other objects or something like that. Is he even a logia?


With the Yami Yami fruit i think the definition of logias have been stretched a bit. Aside from controlling an element, i always thought that what defined a logia was the ability to turn into that element. This is obviously not true since Blackbeard can no turn into Darkness. Personally i don't see how the Darkness fruit can be a logia when for instance Magellans fruit is paramecia.

With Blackbeard, it feels more like the logia's fruit affect on how the user turns into their element. Instead of being able to dissipate, it's just the opposite, so he takes more damage than normal. It's not that he can't turn into darkness, it's that he's essentially darkness all the time because of the fruit's powers. It's like going towards negative numbers, while logias are going towards positive.
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Marshall_D._Teach#Yami_Yami_no_Mi
i am plus
Profile Joined October 2011
United States190 Posts
July 04 2013 02:13 GMT
#8352
[image loading]
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
July 04 2013 03:48 GMT
#8353
And what exactly is the purpose of that non-spoilered big page without any text to convey in what context we should be reading it?
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
July 04 2013 03:55 GMT
#8354
It just so awesome he had to show it to everybody again.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
July 04 2013 03:57 GMT
#8355
On July 04 2013 12:55 GettingIt wrote:
It just so awesome he had to show it to everybody again.

A simple link would suffice.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1078 Posts
July 04 2013 06:51 GMT
#8356
Another interesting chapter with the plot continuing to push forward nicely.

I'm interested in seeing what Law's plan is. Fujitora gave him an out and he didn't take it for a reason.

Sanji gave up some pretty key information to Violet (the Western Port meet up) that is almost definitely going to come back to haunt the Straw Hats when Doflamingo gets a hold of her.

Rather than having a second world military organization, I think it's more likely that Fujitora was a military man in some world government country (like Pell from Alabasta) and decided to join the marines during a global enlistment process. Although as a member of one country's military, it's very likely that he would fight against a Dragon inspired uprising. I'm still thinking his sword has been given a gravity paramecia DF and he used that to pull down a meteor, but he's also a master swordsman with very high observation haki levels. He seems to understand what's going on with Doflamingo, but knows he can't directly do anything about it... so he doesn't seem to mind making Doflamingo into collateral damage.

A few other past observations:
I was thinking Bartolomeo might have something to do with Oars Jr based a little on looks, but that seems to be a dead end. I wonder if he could be working for Oars Sr. Oars Jr is actually the 3rd Oars (check his flag) and we don't know what's up with his dad. Perhaps the followers of Oars II saw how easily Oars III was destroyed by DF users and they are trying to obtain the fire fruit to turn Oars II into a gigantic flaming demonic giant who can stand up to other DF users.

Also, while looking into Oars Jr, I noticed that Ace learned how to make Oar's hat in the country of Wano. I wonder if Wano was one of the countries under the protection of Whitebeard. Perhaps his death had something to do with why Kinemon and Kanjuro left Wano on their voyage.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
July 04 2013 19:56 GMT
#8357
On July 04 2013 15:51 RenSC2 wrote:
Another interesting chapter with the plot continuing to push forward nicely.

I'm interested in seeing what Law's plan is. Fujitora gave him an out and he didn't take it for a reason.

Sanji gave up some pretty key information to Violet (the Western Port meet up) that is almost definitely going to come back to haunt the Straw Hats when Doflamingo gets a hold of her.

Rather than having a second world military organization, I think it's more likely that Fujitora was a military man in some world government country (like Pell from Alabasta) and decided to join the marines during a global enlistment process. Although as a member of one country's military, it's very likely that he would fight against a Dragon inspired uprising. I'm still thinking his sword has been given a gravity paramecia DF and he used that to pull down a meteor, but he's also a master swordsman with very high observation haki levels. He seems to understand what's going on with Doflamingo, but knows he can't directly do anything about it... so he doesn't seem to mind making Doflamingo into collateral damage.

A few other past observations:
I was thinking Bartolomeo might have something to do with Oars Jr based a little on looks, but that seems to be a dead end. I wonder if he could be working for Oars Sr. Oars Jr is actually the 3rd Oars (check his flag) and we don't know what's up with his dad. Perhaps the followers of Oars II saw how easily Oars III was destroyed by DF users and they are trying to obtain the fire fruit to turn Oars II into a gigantic flaming demonic giant who can stand up to other DF users.

Also, while looking into Oars Jr, I noticed that Ace learned how to make Oar's hat in the country of Wano. I wonder if Wano was one of the countries under the protection of Whitebeard. Perhaps his death had something to do with why Kinemon and Kanjuro left Wano on their voyage.


Oh wow I totally didnt remember that Wano had been mentioned before. I wonder if Kinemon met Ace and if its just a coincident that Ace's fruit is introduced around the same time we mean Wano people.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
July 04 2013 21:07 GMT
#8358
Maybe he's got like the "Space Space" fruit or something. Meteors + gravity would fit.

Or maybe he just has a Meteor Meteor fruit, and can use the ground to make the meteors that fall from the sky.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 23:36:24
July 04 2013 23:35 GMT
#8359
On July 05 2013 06:07 killa_robot wrote:
Maybe he's got like the "Space Space" fruit or something. Meteors + gravity would fit.

Or maybe he just has a Meteor Meteor fruit, and can use the ground to make the meteors that fall from the sky.

No to both.

Space doesn't imply gravity, though there are meteors in space. Gravity is everywhere.

There wasn't any ground that went up before the meteor came down. If he could send stuff into space and then let it fall down (which takes a while, actually) he could just have sent up the ground beneath Law.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 05 2013 02:38 GMT
#8360
Also, while looking into Oars Jr, I noticed that Ace learned how to make Oar's hat in the country of Wano. I wonder if Wano was one of the countries under the protection of Whitebeard. Perhaps his death had something to do with why Kinemon and Kanjuro left Wano on their voyage.


i highly doubt that im pretty sure Wano was introduced as the super isolation island that allowed noone in it and protected by the SAmurai
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