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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 22 2016 11:39 GMT
#26141
utterly crushed? lmao i'm out i'm not even going into that debate
maru lover forever
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 22 2016 12:29 GMT
#26142
On September 22 2016 19:04 sertas wrote:
no sanji got utterly crushed by vergo in their confrontation and he lost to dofla very fast. Oda used sanji as a tool to show how strong the enemies are. He´s probably gonna be much stronger now since that powerlevel oda has shown sanji to be is way to low.

What sort of manga have you been reading? Most of Sanji's fight had Sanji kicking Vergo in the face and sending him flying into the wall. Their last clash had Sanji blocking one of Vergo's attacks, taking damage, but still well within the fight. Sanji haters are insane.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
September 22 2016 12:42 GMT
#26143
In that one panel it looked like sanji broke his leg but it never got mentioned again so who knows.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 22 2016 12:53 GMT
#26144
It did, but this is also a manga where Usopp won a fight after having his skull shattered
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
September 22 2016 13:46 GMT
#26145
^ benchmark in the series showing that broken bones mean jack shit.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 14:43:05
September 22 2016 14:41 GMT
#26146
On September 22 2016 21:29 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 19:04 sertas wrote:
no sanji got utterly crushed by vergo in their confrontation and he lost to dofla very fast. Oda used sanji as a tool to show how strong the enemies are. He´s probably gonna be much stronger now since that powerlevel oda has shown sanji to be is way to low.

What sort of manga have you been reading? Most of Sanji's fight had Sanji kicking Vergo in the face and sending him flying into the wall. Their last clash had Sanji blocking one of Vergo's attacks, taking damage, but still well within the fight. Sanji haters are insane.

I prefer the term Sanji doubter, I don't hate Sanji I just doubt his strength. For example I also think Luffy needs to get stronger too as he should stand no chance vs a Yonko. We haven't met a Yonko, but Cracker a Yonko commander is giving Luffy a lot of trouble and DD barely lost to Luffy both of these characters Luffy is fighting/beat rate a Yonko much higher than themselves.

It's the same with Sanji. Even if I were to say Sanji was at in advantage when his fight with Vergo ended it was Sanji using the strongest moves that we know he has Diable Jambe and it wasn't enough to end the fight. On the other hand we know Vergo wasn't giving it all that fight when Vergo goes full clad haki vs Law nor did Vergo use his bamboo stick. Same with DD which was definitely a fight which ended with Sanji at a disadvantage we know DD wasn't going all out there. Sanji either needs to reveal something really good he's been holding back or get a power up. From a story construction perspective I can see Oda holding back Sanji's full power for a "year of Sanji" arc, but I don't see why Sanji as a character would hold back vs DD when trying to protect Nami.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 22 2016 16:38 GMT
#26147
On September 22 2016 22:46 herMan wrote:
^ benchmark in the series showing that broken bones mean jack shit.


yeah

what about doflamingo literally having his insides turned to mush?
maru lover forever
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 17:31:52
September 22 2016 17:13 GMT
#26148
so sanji was the prisonner behind the iron mask all long, who would have known :D

sanji didn't have one true fight with his brothers, i wouldn't make a conclusion out of what we saw yet

also some big revelation about vegapunk's past
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 22 2016 17:42 GMT
#26149
On September 23 2016 02:13 Makro wrote:
so sanji was the prisonner behind the iron mask all long, who would have known :D

sanji didn't have one true fight with his brothers, i wouldn't make a conclusion out of what we saw yet

also some big revelation about vegapunk's past


The only actual fight he had with one of them was off screen and he apparently rekt his younger brother. I bet he could have taken his old man too if he hadn't got surprised/disgusted by his tactics.
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 22 2016 18:03 GMT
#26150
On September 23 2016 01:38 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 22:46 herMan wrote:
^ benchmark in the series showing that broken bones mean jack shit.


yeah

what about doflamingo literally having his insides turned to mush?

Or when Harudin punched Mach Vise's 10,000-ton fall, had all his bones in his punching arm get shown to shatter, and then somehow still follow through with the same punch to send that 10,000 ton dude flying right into the roof of the bird-cage.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 22 2016 18:04 GMT
#26151
he clearly stopped fighting against his dad

it's like shanks vs the bandit. we all thought shanks was a push-over, right?
maru lover forever
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
September 22 2016 18:38 GMT
#26152
On September 23 2016 02:13 Makro wrote:
so sanji was the prisonner behind the iron mask all long, who would have known :D

sanji didn't have one true fight with his brothers, i wouldn't make a conclusion out of what we saw yet

also some big revelation about vegapunk's past


Homage to Duval? xD
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2553 Posts
September 23 2016 15:12 GMT
#26153
On September 23 2016 03:38 Ethelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 02:13 Makro wrote:
so sanji was the prisonner behind the iron mask all long, who would have known :D

sanji didn't have one true fight with his brothers, i wouldn't make a conclusion out of what we saw yet

also some big revelation about vegapunk's past


Homage to Duval? xD

There's an actual story about a man in an iron mask in other works of fiction. So, if anything, it's a reference to that.
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Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
September 23 2016 15:30 GMT
#26154
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_in_the_Iron_Mask
I believe that's what Makro was talking about.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 23 2016 17:28 GMT
#26155
haha yea that was what i was talking about, i bet there is a ton of reference like this throughout the manga, with some of them that have to be quite hard to spot
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
September 27 2016 16:11 GMT
#26156
Not sure if it's been brought up here yet or not, but while watching a video talking about Sanji's brothers and their genetic modification exoskeleton stuff. A rather obvious thought popped into my head, well obvious in hindsight.

Diablo Jambe, people have speculated that it's his haki or this and that. Is it just his genetic modifications? Like his one brother seems to have some lightning powers, what if Sanji's exoskeleton developed later and he subconsciously uses it to create his Diablo Jambe attacks?

What do you guys think? I mean Luffy creates fire with presumably haki for red hawk, so the haki theory can still hold true but this just kind of makes more sense to me now given recent information.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 17:22:09
September 27 2016 17:21 GMT
#26157
In a different world Diablo Jambe might be special, but we already have a bunch of other things that are not a result of genetic modification, advance tech or devil fruit that are more amazing. Brook can use mass hypnosis which almost seems like a DF, the sky walk technique is literally people jumping on air to move, Sai can presumably crack a near indestructible ice block with his kick, swordsman can shoot air/aura as a projectile, etc. So what if Sanji can spin his leg to make a hot kick, now he can do it instantly with emotion or on air, but still not that crazy compared to other stuff.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2553 Posts
September 27 2016 17:45 GMT
#26158
Lightning powers and invisibility were clearly technology based.

Also, in terms of hard science, one piece has none. Keep in mind that in this manga a starfish became a talking, self aware, bipedal humanoid just because it thought it was a person.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 29 2016 10:38 GMT
#26159
good chapter on some many different levels
maru lover forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
September 29 2016 11:28 GMT
#26160
Reiju gonna become an ally I guess.
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