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[Manga] One Piece - Page 1301
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Elentos
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On September 10 2016 00:29 Hyperbola wrote: Power level fags are the worst. You guys do realize that Luffy doesn't need to actually fight Big Mom to defeat her, right? There are many ways this arc can go down without it becoming a DBZ kamehameha shonen battle fest. For example: they could team up and fight Kaido together in the next arc. The Vinsmokes are the primary antagonists anyways. Or we could get some classic shonen filler and spend 100 chapters doing some ninja training under a waterfall. How does teaming up with her qualify as defeating her? | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
On September 10 2016 00:29 Hyperbola wrote: Power level fags are the worst. You guys do realize that Luffy doesn't need to actually fight Big Mom to defeat her, right? There are many ways this arc can go down without it becoming a DBZ kamehameha shonen battle fest. For example: they could team up and fight Kaido together in the next arc. The Vinsmokes are the primary antagonists anyways. Or we could get some classic shonen filler and spend 100 chapters doing some ninja training under a waterfall. I never said Luffy needed to fight Big Mom in order to beat her. Luffy and company will not defeat Big Mom this arc totally, they will get some sort of win, but they won't cause a big defeat to her crew. Just rescuing Sanji while Big Mom is trying to stop them and preventing the wedding is a win against Big Mom. Luffy may do something in addition to that like helping Jinbei or getting some other moral victory. From the very start Luffy said he didn't intend to fight Big Mom. I even quoted and sourced when he said didn't intend to fight Big Mom. The Strawhats will defeat a Yonko eventually, but it won't happen this arc. Pretty much summed up on this page and next with him saying "It's not like I'm gonna fight her." Of course Luffy goes against what he says and I wouldn't be surprised if Luffy does fight Big Mom, but he won't beat her. http://mangapark.me/manga/one-piece/s3/c819/16 Yet somehow I'm the power level faggot? It's also dumb to shit on shounen troopes when One Piece is just as guilty as other series. Luffy won't beat the boss of the arc in a 1v1 fight to foil their plan, but it's dumb to pretend like that isn't how Luffy ends almost every arc. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On September 10 2016 03:14 Elentos wrote: How does teaming up with her qualify as defeating her? "In this era, people put their lives on their beliefs and convictions, and fight. When he goes into battle, Luffy is destroying others' beliefs. And when these enemies' beliefs are shattered and defeated, they feel a pain equal to death." - from the mouth of Oda. Essentially, Luffy defeats people by converting them to his viewpoint. Teaming up with someone basically does the same thing in a way. But also think about this: they have no reason to fight besides the poneglyph and Sanji. Teaming up with Big Mom gives Luffy access to both. It takes Big Mom out of the picture in terms of the adventure/story. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
Luffy is building up a large force to fight Kaido with Minks, Samurai, Ninja, Law and potentially the Strawhat alliance. What would the point of building that force if Luffy's alliance is just an add on to a Yonko vs Yonko war? | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
luffy doesnt 'convert' people like a priest or a monk. he doesnt physically destroy people either (he could, but not what oda is talking about). i think oda is referring to luffy's stubbornness. his stubbornness and his sheer willpower that defies logic and reasoning makes people lose faith in themselves. i think the lucci fight is a decent example of where you could probably say lucci was already defeated mentally when luffy just kept coming back up. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_4 It's closer to evilfatsh1t's interpretation when you include the full quote. D: How come Luffy never kills his enemies? Throughout "One Piece" manga so far, he didn't kill Mohji and Helmeppo, but Axe-arm Morgan was killed by Zoro, why is that? O: Hmm! That's a very good question. First, I have to announce that Morgan is still alive. He's currently in jail, where he was placed by his former subordinates. Why doesnt Luffy kill his enemies? Because in that era, everyone uses their lives to fight for their dreams. For an enemy, when their dream has been shattered, it is the same as losing a fight, and as painful as death. I believe, for a pirate not to kill an enemy, it's giving them a 2nd chance to fight for their dreams. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On September 13 2016 20:15 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Yes but in the end, Luffy does not convert people. He physically punches them hard enough with his fists (or feet or head) that they lose consciousness. He doesn't defeat their dreams. He defeats their ability to hold consciousness. That he feels he has no reason to kill is irrelvant. He's only able to do that because his will is stronger. It all boils down to will in One Piece, baby. | ||
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Elentos
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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shell
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Incognoto
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
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ShiaoPi
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Anyways I am looking forward to Sanji beating up his family. The sister will have to be taken out by Robin or Nami though, or she turns out to be a traitor. By the way does anybody else feel a little unease at the faux nazi depiction of the room? | ||
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