On October 01 2010 23:09 Invictus wrote: I bet ending would be Ichigo turning full hollow and all his friends would have to reluctanctly kill him. Remember the person Rukia liked?(forget his name the trident shinigami). He got consumed by the hollow and Rukia had to kill him, now she has to go through the entire experience again.
Or after becoming a hollow he would fight with his hollow in his "inner world" again and win. Standard plot twists from bleach that makes it so predictable
i dont think that hes gonna fight his hollow in his inner world since he doesnt have shinigami powers anymore. his literally vulnerable of becoming the new horse to the new king(the hollow) of his body but i agree that he will turn to that insane hollow form then all the captains will use bankai just to subdue him.
On October 02 2010 00:29 diwl wrote: We haven't seen Urahara's bankai yet. -> hence the fight isn't over. -> why i keep reading this stupid manga
You still believe that because an important characters Bankai hasn't been shown that its not over? It didn't help Yamamoto... The author has run into the problem that the captains are way too overpowered: the #1 espada was killed with ease by a captain using shikai alone: he can't use bankai now because, with it being more powerful than the shikai, there is no opponent worthy of using it on.
Face it, the author has no clue what he is doing storywise and nobody can predict anything. I'm pretty sure there will be another arc, not because of bankais not being shown but because the author wants money.
On October 01 2010 06:12 Irrelevant wrote: pretty fucking lame how even getting cut in half doesn't kill you in bleach...seriously let some people die already
Yeah, that impression is amplified for me since I recently watched Shigurui:
As far as the sword fighting goes, rather realistic compared to other media imo. No long fights, most fights are decided after one strike, two at the most. Ok, Bleach has a totally different style and it's partially explainable due to the scenario and "spirit pressure" which can, as Kenpachi showed during Soul Society arc, even result in invulnerability against weaker spirits. It's plausible that real world rules don't apply in Bleach spirit fights. But still, nobody dying is really annoying.
On October 02 2010 00:29 diwl wrote: We haven't seen Urahara's bankai yet. -> hence the fight isn't over. -> why i keep reading this stupid manga
You still believe that because an important characters Bankai hasn't been shown that its not over? It didn't help Yamamoto... The author has run into the problem that the captains are way too overpowered: the #1 espada was killed with ease by a captain using shikai alone: he can't use bankai now because, with it being more powerful than the shikai, there is no opponent worthy of using it on.
Face it, the author has no clue what he is doing storywise and nobody can predict anything. I'm pretty sure there will be another arc, not because of bankais not being shown but because the author wants money.
It's not that the captains are overpowered. It's that the author is very inconsistent with his power levels. They don't make sense at all.
Case in point, in SS arc, bankai Ichigo = Byakuya and shikai Ichigo = Kenpachi. Yet Ichigo struggled with the no. 4 espada using bankai + 1st hollow form while the captains easily dispatched the espada stronger than no. 4.
^The Bankai issue is just something that readers weren't told about. First of all you don't know if the #1 espada was killed using shikai (and it is inaccurate to say it was shikai alone since he fought 4 people totally). Ichigo spent all of Hueco Mundo in bankai, he never said "bankai" in that time. So it is consistent if others used bankai without a specific panel indicating it.
And about the power levels, it is messed up to complain about them. It should not just be a limited ranking where people get a rank on a linear power scale. That is an unrealistic thing which would suck. It is like saying Yellow beat Boxer but then lost to someone who Boxer lost to and it not making sense. It depends on the situation of the person at the time and the way they match up. Yammy, for instance, was a total slow moving bafoon with a lot of raw power. Even if that made him the 0 espada it is no surprise he lost to 2 (or 3 if Mayuri helped) captains. I think Ulquiorra would have beaten Byakuya and Kenpachi. Also, it was revealed that Ichigo had issues that was ruining his Shinigami power, which explained why he wasn't as good as everyone hoped after the SS arc (revealed by Zangetsu during his last training in his underwater inner world).
On October 01 2010 07:25 Flanlord wrote: In a perfect world... + Show Spoiler +
The last frame is Ichigo's hollow taking over at the same level it was at when he fought Ulqiorra, and it just kills everyone. </series>
i'd pay money for that to happen actually
its funny how the most interesting thing about bleach is not the actual story but the speculation
I think it is funny this may be construed as a bad thing (not sure if that is your purpose). Bleach leaves a lot to think about, from characters, events, small details in the art... which is not the case for the other big 3. One Piece and Naruto tell you everything in spoon-fed form; they tell and do not show. You just sit and watch.
Speaking of that, I am thinking how interesting Ichigo's ponderance about Aizen was. The idea that Aizen wished to lose his power is very intriguing in that even Aizen did not realize it. The whole manga Aizen had been reading the thoughts of others and going as far as playing with their emotions. What Ichigo spoke of is something in Aizen's heart/subconscious that even Aizen was not expecting or aware of. ^_^
On October 01 2010 07:25 Flanlord wrote: In a perfect world... + Show Spoiler +
The last frame is Ichigo's hollow taking over at the same level it was at when he fought Ulqiorra, and it just kills everyone. </series>
i'd pay money for that to happen actually
its funny how the most interesting thing about bleach is not the actual story but the speculation
I think it is funny this may be construed as a bad thing (not sure if that is your purpose). Bleach leaves a lot to think about, from characters, events, small details in the art... which is not the case for the other big 3. One Piece and Naruto tell you everything in spoon-fed form; they tell and do not show. You just sit and watch.
Speaking of that, I am thinking how interesting Ichigo's ponderance about Aizen was. The idea that Aizen wished to lose his power is very intriguing in that even Aizen did not realize it. The whole manga Aizen had been reading the thoughts of others and going as far as playing with their emotions. What Ichigo spoke of is something in Aizen's heart/subconscious that even Aizen was not expecting or aware of. ^_^
The reason you think that is an accident. Because the truth is, Kubo has no clue. Aizen is just a run of the mill bad guy who is naturally wrong. and Ichigo is a waste of space.
Ichigo deserves special mention because mannnnnn that kid is dumb, no wit, no personality, what has he ever done, besides standing around pretending to be cool?. He's never made a joke the entire series. He wins battles purely because dumbass Kubo decided the kid has limitless power and potential. He's got one move for every battle: The "lets finish this in one hit" move. He has a total of three emotions: {Herr, Derr, i must protect everyone ><} {Herr, Derr, Oh what? ur still not dead? Well you are going to, very soon, because I'm a protagonist of the manga we're in} {Herr, Derr, there's no less than 3 hot regulars wanting my ass, and plus my zanpaktou has the hots for me, but im a closet retard so i'll just go ahead and ignore them and pretend I'm truly the fucking awesome guy I am}. There is nothing that comes out of that kids mouth that is not a waste of fucking "plot". Get it? bleach has no plot, Ichigo should just stfu.
Ichigo has to go through the omg i dont have powers and now i ahve to do intense inner training with another super cool looking but 0 depth character.
Or he has to protection someone and pulls a goku and finds his powers.
Sidenote: Aizen was such a let down. Didnt expect him to be a rager like every other boss. And the whole thing about him wanting to die - sure i think its good - but he way it was presented it seemed like i was reading kibos NOTES rather than a manga.
to tell you the truth, if those last couple of pages were the end of the entire manga, i'd actually be pretty happy. it was well drawn, everything came full circle, there's solid closure.
but yeah...im gonna say he gets his powers back soon enough. also, why do the captains not heal themselves? yamamoto's missing an arm? mayuri definitely grew an arm back in some fight or another, not to mention the ridiculous things inoue can do. they didn't mention soifon or hacchi, but the same goes for them as well.
The next chapter is 20,000 years later and Aizen is released and unleashes his rage and everyone dies. But Ichigo's great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandson knows of Aizen and he is also a substitute shinigami and he fights Aizen and Aizen is defeated but comes back in the next arc as an even stronger person but dies and bleach ends
EPT
