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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 04 2013 17:09 GMT
#18741
It's incredibly hard to moderate speculation like that. Having said that, I do think a lot of these 'speculators' are full of shit.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
June 04 2013 17:13 GMT
#18742
On June 05 2013 01:03 dreamseller wrote:
all in all the show does a good job at painting a dreadful picture of feudal power structures. clearly psychopathy is the norm as the dominant force for the lead characters, which would mirror most large scale power structures and so we see humanity portrayed very dimly.


Psychopathy is not the norm iirc it's just more prevalent, at least according to estimates by psychologists (40% rather than 20% I believe).

But absolutely agree about Robb as a leader, he made some poor decisions and was never going to command the respect Eddard could, especially at such a young age and being naïve. Catelyn is also a very poor decision maker. It was upsetting that Robb's wife had to be involved and killed, but Frey said it himself, he shouldn't have brought her to parade in front of his children.

So is it pretty certain that Robb's uncle, the one who got married off, will be murdered? I mean, his dad got chopped down. I wonder if he will be used by Frey as a method of controlling the men that his house commands for Frey's intent, or even will be controlled by Tywin.

Also does anyone want to hazard a guess as to how involved Tywin was with that whole thing? He gave the impression that he was worried about Robb's army and the Starks in general when he has been talking the other times, but if he had known about this he would have been laughing all the way to the bank.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
June 04 2013 17:14 GMT
#18743
Oh shit, I never thought about Bran being able to take control over the dragons if the time comes. If that is possible it would be so awesome.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:34:57
June 04 2013 17:34 GMT
#18744
Just make it a "no speculation" thread.

Or force speculation into spoilers since they have no other purpose in this thread.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:42:18
June 04 2013 17:40 GMT
#18745
I'm not sure what we would discuss if no speculation was allowed lol.

"That episode sure was great I really like xyz, I wonder.. err, I think.. err, maybe now.. err, uhm, that last episode sure was great!"


I think this thread has been about the best possible 'spoiler free' discussion you can find on the net. Unfortunately you need to allow people to speculate and predict and discuss underlying themes etc in the show. Also, unfortunately, some people will be assholes. I think if you really want to stay squeaky clean of spoilers, this thread should be entirely avoided.
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Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
June 04 2013 17:43 GMT
#18746
On June 05 2013 02:34 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Just make it a "no speculation" thread.

Or force speculation into spoilers since they have no other purpose in this thread.


Take away speculah and what is the point of the thread?
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
June 04 2013 17:45 GMT
#18747
On June 05 2013 01:41 duoform wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 01:18 Manit0u wrote:
On June 05 2013 01:03 dreamseller wrote:
i've even admired tywin for his ability to bring some order to king's landing, although he is unrelentingly cruel.


Tywin and Bronn are the best. They are both ruthless, yes, but that's exactly why they're so successful. They represent two faces of the same coin, royalty and commoner. They are the only ones who actually seem to know what it is exactly they want and how to get it. They're also the ones who make the most reasonable decisions given the circumstances (even if those decisions are often cold-hearted).

Tywin does this because his father was a shame to the house Lannister (according to this video, go head no spoilers, I just started AGOT as well) so in my opinion is understandable how ruthless he is.
And yeah, I agree with you but as a Stark guy myself, it's a shame that the only way Tywin could win Robb was this way. It's funny tho because if you read or search about Robert's rebellion, the Lannisters pulled the "same" or similar trick on Aerys. They stayed the hell out of the war until they saw Robert's and Ned's army going to King's Landing after Rhaegar died to then proceed to tell Aerys "We Lannisters are with ya!" to betray him and sack the city...

Oh, that video was awesome. Full of non-spoiler history. Nice.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:59:13
June 04 2013 17:55 GMT
#18748
On June 05 2013 02:43 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 02:34 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Just make it a "no speculation" thread.

Or force speculation into spoilers since they have no other purpose in this thread.


Take away speculah and what is the point of the thread?


Discussion. Isn't that the main point of every thread?

Speculation is like an unnecessary side-dish that isn't working in this thread because certain waiters keep spitting in it.
Ogww
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:06:02
June 04 2013 18:05 GMT
#18749
On June 05 2013 02:13 sc4k wrote:
So is it pretty certain that Robb's uncle, the one who got married off, will be murdered?

Cmon, he just got married to a pretty girl, no way Martin would kill him now.

+ Show Spoiler +
:D
toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
June 04 2013 18:09 GMT
#18750
http://imgur.com/atQdRNb

so sad :'(

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
June 04 2013 18:15 GMT
#18751
On June 05 2013 02:03 PerryHooter wrote:
The people that are revealing who the guy that tortures Theon is + Show Spoiler +
Bolton's bastard
should be banned (since it's turned into an accepted fact in this thread I'm assuming it's true). It hasn't been revealed in the tv-series yet, don't know why the mods let those spoilers remain.


Yeah what the hell I didn't know he was and was wondering when they revealed this.
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:20:08
June 04 2013 18:17 GMT
#18752
On June 05 2013 03:15 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 02:03 PerryHooter wrote:
The people that are revealing who the guy that tortures Theon is + Show Spoiler +
Bolton's bastard
should be banned (since it's turned into an accepted fact in this thread I'm assuming it's true). It hasn't been revealed in the tv-series yet, don't know why the mods let those spoilers remain.


Yeah what the hell I didn't know he was and was wondering when they revealed this.


I always thought that was pretty obvious from the show...

-Bolten sends his bastard to go take back winterfell.
-Kid starts filleting Theon slowly, a practice used by the Boltons.
-Kid gets called Bastard by dudes that he kills in the woods.

Note: have no book knowledge to back up the assumption, just based on show stuff.
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
June 04 2013 18:19 GMT
#18753
On June 05 2013 03:05 Ogww wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 02:13 sc4k wrote:
So is it pretty certain that Robb's uncle, the one who got married off, will be murdered?

Cmon, he just got married to a pretty girl, no way Martin would kill him now.

+ Show Spoiler +
:D

[image loading]
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
June 04 2013 18:22 GMT
#18754
On June 05 2013 03:05 Ogww wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 02:13 sc4k wrote:
So is it pretty certain that Robb's uncle, the one who got married off, will be murdered?

Cmon, he just got married to a pretty girl, no way Martin would kill him now.

+ Show Spoiler +
:D

I took it that the reason Frey wanted the marriage to be done and consummated first was so that the marriage would still stand even after everyone else being murdered. So my thinking was that Robb's uncle would be kept alive as some sort of prisoner until he agreed to be loyal to Frey -- but that he wasn't going to be murdered like all the others.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
June 04 2013 18:24 GMT
#18755
On June 05 2013 03:19 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 03:05 Ogww wrote:
On June 05 2013 02:13 sc4k wrote:
So is it pretty certain that Robb's uncle, the one who got married off, will be murdered?

Cmon, he just got married to a pretty girl, no way Martin would kill him now.

+ Show Spoiler +
:D

[image loading]


By the way everyone I watched the show with thought that Edmure married the youngest daughter in the lineup (the one who "hasn't bled yet"). I was like wait, so someone the same age as Catelyn is marrying a girl that's 12 or younger?

Then someone linked the GoT wiki which said she's 19.
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:30:55
June 04 2013 18:26 GMT
#18756
On June 05 2013 03:09 toemn wrote:
http://imgur.com/atQdRNb

so sad :'(


I'm sure some book readers are reading this so I go head and ask a question I got spoiled by a simple pic:
+ Show Spoiler [NOTHING] +
lalalala...


User was temp banned for this post.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 04 2013 18:27 GMT
#18757
On June 05 2013 03:26 duoform wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 03:09 toemn wrote:
http://imgur.com/atQdRNb

so sad :'(


I'm sure some book readers are reading this so I go head and ask a question I got spoiled by a simple pic:
+ Show Spoiler [SPOILERS NEXT WEEK EPISODE] +
In the books snip...

Might want to edit that out before KwarK throws the ban-hammah

Read the mod-note up top.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:30:34
June 04 2013 18:28 GMT
#18758
On June 05 2013 03:26 duoform wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 03:09 toemn wrote:
http://imgur.com/atQdRNb

so sad :'(


I'm sure some book readers are reading this so I go head and ask a question I got spoiled by a simple pic:
+ Show Spoiler [SPOILERS NEXT WEEK EPISODE] +
Will they show it in the next episode or what?

+ Show Spoiler +
We have just as much knowledge of what they will put in the show as you, but I hope they do
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
June 04 2013 18:29 GMT
#18759
On June 05 2013 03:27 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 03:26 duoform wrote:
On June 05 2013 03:09 toemn wrote:
http://imgur.com/atQdRNb

so sad :'(


I'm sure some book readers are reading this so I go head and ask a question I got spoiled by a simple pic:
+ Show Spoiler [SPOILERS NEXT WEEK EPISODE] +
In the books snip...

Might want to edit that out before KwarK throws the ban-hammah

Read the mod-note up top.

I don't read the books so I don't wanna go to the other thread and get more spoiled. Gonna edit it as someone already answered me. Thanks.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
June 04 2013 18:33 GMT
#18760
Bad timing ...
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