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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On September 27 2012 01:41 Poplicola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 21:50 Fenrax wrote:On September 26 2012 16:48 thirtyapm wrote: how come all the ninja groups have 2 guys and 1 girl? shouldn't there be an equal number with 1 guy and 2 girls? They are smurfettes. Very popular principle that applies to most Shonen Manga. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSmurfettePrincipleI quote: Naruto enforces this trope religiously, regardless of the size of the group. There is one female in every Genin team (that matters), there is one female among the five Jonin senseis (all the ones we've seen that aren't teachers are male), there's one known female member of ANBU, there is one female among the three Chuunin Exam proctors, there is one female among the Sound Five, there is only one female among the Akatsuki, only one female in Snake/Hawk, and there's even a single female Pain body and even that was a replacement for another one that died. We might as well call it "The Kunoichi Principle". There are (were?) however two female kages. One sexy/useless and one self-sacrificing old hag who can turn herself young again for our viewing pleasure.
Yeah, that is one little exception. Tsunade is only a transition Hokage though. Once Naruto is Hokage the smurfette order is restored.
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On September 26 2012 16:48 thirtyapm wrote: how come all the ninja groups have 2 guys and 1 girl? shouldn't there be an equal number with 1 guy and 2 girls? I guess there are more male than female ninja's
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A third of the chapter talking about shit... appropriate considering what this manga has turned into...
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Good chapter, Kishi's finally answering our questions, albeit a little slowly (but that's manga for you).
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On September 27 2012 04:06 Dosey wrote: A third of the chapter talking about shit... appropriate considering what this manga has turned into... Well, Luffy's first question to Brookk was: "Do you poop", so it wasn't that bad :p
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On September 27 2012 04:14 antilyon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 04:06 Dosey wrote: A third of the chapter talking about shit... appropriate considering what this manga has turned into... Well, Luffy's first question to Brookk was: "Do you poop", so it wasn't that bad :p Imho it´s a completely different context.
After 600 chapters I would say there is some kind of stablished tone that´s kinda broken with that question. Just seems off to me, like the "lower parts". If it continues with 1 shallow joke per chapter(of this flashback) we have a new pattern.
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Whoa nice new chapter O_O
Remember when Kisame called Obito "former Mizukage"? Wonder if Kishi will remember to cover this...
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On September 27 2012 06:43 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 04:14 antilyon wrote:On September 27 2012 04:06 Dosey wrote: A third of the chapter talking about shit... appropriate considering what this manga has turned into... Well, Luffy's first question to Brookk was: "Do you poop", so it wasn't that bad :p Imho it´s a completely different context. After 600 chapters I would say there is some kind of stablished tone that´s kinda broken with that question. Just seems off to me, like the "lower parts". If it continues with 1 shallow joke per chapter(of this flashback) we have a new pattern.
While this is true, I think the idea behind it was to bring back the "humor" that kishi used to have when naruto was young. When naruto was younger during the early parts of the manga, he had a similar humor to young obito in these flashbacks. I think the point was to draw them both as similar yet turning out as opposites due to factors in their lives.
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Canada8840 Posts
On September 26 2012 16:53 LeaD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 16:35 Art.FeeL wrote: Obito seems to stubborn I wonder how Madara convinced him to play the role he played later on... My guess? Rin dies, he blames Kakashi and Madara uses that to convince Obito the world needs his form of peace and Obito wants revenge, blames the entire village blah blah, Sasuke #2 (or #1 based on the time line). assuming that Madara isnt responsible for Kakashi and rin getting attacked
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The new chapter is a bit strange...but I like it for some reason. It explains the a pretty much anything I needed to know now of Zetsu. I wonder where Kishi will go with this. I'm assuming Rin dies, because even at the very beginning of Naruto she is non-existent. So the "danger" that Zetsu speaks of must be her up and coming death scene. This is where Obito should now witness the death and blame Kakashi for not being able to protect her, even though it may have not been in his control. As a result, Obito shall follow Madara's plan in order to have the dream of being able to "revive" Rin. At least this is the way the manga seems to be going.
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On September 27 2012 08:56 BlackPaladin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 06:43 Mataza wrote:On September 27 2012 04:14 antilyon wrote:On September 27 2012 04:06 Dosey wrote: A third of the chapter talking about shit... appropriate considering what this manga has turned into... Well, Luffy's first question to Brookk was: "Do you poop", so it wasn't that bad :p Imho it´s a completely different context. After 600 chapters I would say there is some kind of stablished tone that´s kinda broken with that question. Just seems off to me, like the "lower parts". If it continues with 1 shallow joke per chapter(of this flashback) we have a new pattern. While this is true, I think the idea behind it was to bring back the "humor" that kishi used to have when naruto was young. When naruto was younger during the early parts of the manga, he had a similar humor to young obito in these flashbacks. I think the point was to draw them both as similar yet turning out as opposites due to factors in their lives.
It's interesting how many aspects of the story are essentially recycled for various people in varying combinations. Nagato, Obito, Haku, Gaara, Sasuke, Kakashi... Naruto. They share so many similarities, yet they all turned out so differently. What events turn a good person bad? What events turn a bad person good? Deep shit man.
Maybe Madara was right. The world sucks.
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On September 27 2012 02:00 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 01:41 Poplicola wrote:On September 26 2012 21:50 Fenrax wrote:On September 26 2012 16:48 thirtyapm wrote: how come all the ninja groups have 2 guys and 1 girl? shouldn't there be an equal number with 1 guy and 2 girls? They are smurfettes. Very popular principle that applies to most Shonen Manga. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSmurfettePrincipleI quote: Naruto enforces this trope religiously, regardless of the size of the group. There is one female in every Genin team (that matters), there is one female among the five Jonin senseis (all the ones we've seen that aren't teachers are male), there's one known female member of ANBU, there is one female among the three Chuunin Exam proctors, there is one female among the Sound Five, there is only one female among the Akatsuki, only one female in Snake/Hawk, and there's even a single female Pain body and even that was a replacement for another one that died. We might as well call it "The Kunoichi Principle". There are (were?) however two female kages. One sexy/useless and one self-sacrificing old hag who can turn herself young again for our viewing pleasure. Yeah, that is one little exception. Tsunade is only a transition Hokage though. Once Naruto is Hokage the smurfette order is restored.
The Mizukage doesn't really seem useless tho. She did after all have Sasuke basically in a corner with no where to go and basically out of power before Obito showed up and LOL left with him. Other then that we really haven't seen much of her. Tsunade basically became a casualty of being useless because her power doesn't scale into the super world of puffed up power. She did have that massive strength thing back when abilities were scaled back and it was relatively unique. Now it seems every other character can punch with the same or greater power (or have some other crazy ability) so the only thing left is her healing and regen abilities.
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oh man that last chapter was good, finally a good chapter.
it's been total bs for so long.
for me the most epic has always been the bridge arc, with zabusan and haku. chuunin awesome, sasuke retrieval awesome. i agree, but the bridge arc felt special.
when sasuke awakens his sharingan in battle, when you first get a glimpse of the fox, the village that has lost its courage and found it anew... and the conclusion of zabusa and haku was epic.
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On September 27 2012 04:06 Dosey wrote: A third of the chapter talking about shit... appropriate considering what this manga has turned into...
Eh, you didnt get it. The reason why the spiral mask Zetsu is so obsessed with something stupid like "how is it to poop?" is that he later will become the silly "Tobi is a good boy" personality.
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Inb4 Rin's death is set up and Naruto converts Obito to the light side through plot magic.
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On September 27 2012 08:22 holyhalo5 wrote: Whoa nice new chapter O_O
Remember when Kisame called Obito "former Mizukage"? Wonder if Kishi will remember to cover this...
I'm pretty sure it was said that Tobi was controlling the 4th Mizukage. So in effect, Tobi was a faux Mizukage.
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On September 28 2012 05:57 Hyperbola wrote: Inb4 Rin's death is set up and Naruto converts Obito to the light side through plot magic. i believe its called "talk no jutsu"
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On September 28 2012 06:10 Courthead wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 05:57 Hyperbola wrote: Inb4 Rin's death is set up and Naruto converts Obito to the light side through plot magic. i believe its called "talk no jutsu" Likewise is Rin´s death also by "Plot no Jutsu"(unless it is of course some treachery by Madara that causes her death). Maybe the Manga is getting better again and we doubters are all just bitter because of the sheer amount of disappointment in the last 100-200 chapters or so.
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On September 28 2012 03:14 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 04:06 Dosey wrote: A third of the chapter talking about shit... appropriate considering what this manga has turned into... Eh, you didnt get it. The reason why the spiral mask Zetsu is so obsessed with something stupid like "how is it to poop?" is that he later will become the silly "Tobi is a good boy" personality.
Omg it all makes sense now. Somehow this Tobi personality merged with Obitos when they merged in this latest chapter.
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Canada8840 Posts
On September 28 2012 13:11 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 03:14 Fenrax wrote:On September 27 2012 04:06 Dosey wrote: A third of the chapter talking about shit... appropriate considering what this manga has turned into... Eh, you didnt get it. The reason why the spiral mask Zetsu is so obsessed with something stupid like "how is it to poop?" is that he later will become the silly "Tobi is a good boy" personality. Omg it all makes sense now. Somehow this Tobi personality merged with Obitos when they merged in this latest chapter. its possible, kinda odd that Obito is able to "wear" the Zetsu so easily
its almsot definently all going to be a set up by Madara put his friends in danger and he has no choice but to rely on Zetsu to get there
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