On September 29 2012 15:26 Slaughter wrote: Maybe when Obito said that the jutzu that Nagato used to revive people was "meant for me" he meant for rin? Somewhat doubt that though because it seems it has a limit on how long they have been dead.
Madara obviously thought that limit could be exceeded
besides Nagatos techniques are obviously a few leagues below the Sage who fought the 10 tails one on one and won, Nagatos technique couldnt even contain 8 tailed Naruto
wonder how fucked everyone would be if Orochimaru managed to get some of his DNA...
You have to remember that Nagato was like wasted away by the time he fought Naruto. He was holding out vs a powered up Naruto, the 8 tails AND Itachi. all while he wasn't incontrol of himself and he didn't want to fight anyway after he was revived. Still I concede that he isn't no sage of the 6 paths but he was powerful.
Interesting question. Why did Obito say "he was saving that for me" when he just took the eyes after? I guess Obitio doesn't have the mastery of the Rinnegan that Nagato had?
Nagato was at full power when he fought those 3 aside from his lack of mobility, the jutsus he used int aht fight was the maiximum amount of power he was capable of using at his prime
which chapter did he say that?
He said that right after Naruto v Pain and right before Sasuke went to take on the 5 kages at the meeting. I think he specifically says it when he stops Sasuke from going to the leaf and Zetzu reports what happened there.
On September 30 2012 03:36 MooMooMugi wrote: Madara is probably going to set up Rin's death but make it seem like Obito is the one who killed her, thats how he gets him on his side
That would be kind of funny. "You didn't protect Rin......FROM ME!"
On September 29 2012 15:26 Slaughter wrote: Maybe when Obito said that the jutzu that Nagato used to revive people was "meant for me" he meant for rin? Somewhat doubt that though because it seems it has a limit on how long they have been dead.
Madara obviously thought that limit could be exceeded
besides Nagatos techniques are obviously a few leagues below the Sage who fought the 10 tails one on one and won, Nagatos technique couldnt even contain 8 tailed Naruto
wonder how fucked everyone would be if Orochimaru managed to get some of his DNA...
You have to remember that Nagato was like wasted away by the time he fought Naruto. He was holding out vs a powered up Naruto, the 8 tails AND Itachi. all while he wasn't incontrol of himself and he didn't want to fight anyway after he was revived. Still I concede that he isn't no sage of the 6 paths but he was powerful.
Interesting question. Why did Obito say "he was saving that for me" when he just took the eyes after? I guess Obitio doesn't have the mastery of the Rinnegan that Nagato had?
Nagato was at full power when he fought those 3 aside from his lack of mobility, the jutsus he used int aht fight was the maiximum amount of power he was capable of using at his prime
which chapter did he say that?
He said that right after Naruto v Pain and right before Sasuke went to take on the 5 kages at the meeting. I think he specifically says it when he stops Sasuke from going to the leaf and Zetzu reports what happened there.
oh thought you were talking about something he said to paper chick or shortly after
my guess is he didnt want to take Nagatos eyes because Nagato is still a very powerful ninja it wouldnt be easy at all to take it from him by force and thought that he could manipulate Nagato into doing whatever he wanted him to do anyway and not take the risk of using the eyes himself, unlike Nagato he doesnt have insanely high chakra reserves
Actually Tobi has very high chakra reserves compared to most ninjas, although you are right it is still nothing compared to Nagato. Still it hasn't been shown if he can use the rinnegan abilities like Nagato can all he has been shown using is the six different bodies.
On October 01 2012 12:53 ColdFire89 wrote: Actually Tobi has very high chakra reserves compared to most ninjas, although you are right it is still nothing compared to Nagato. Still it hasn't been shown if he can use the rinnegan abilities like Nagato can all he has been shown using is the six different bodies.
didnt one of the bodies use one of the abilitys?
i think its safe to say he can use the basic abilities like the 6 paths and summoning the Gedo but im willing to bet the more advanced techniques (like the super gravity sphere) are beyond him
Did Pain only receive 1 eye from Madara? If yes, was he shown to have 2 rinnegan? Or just 1? I kind of recall seeing 2. And if it is 2, how did he end up with 2 if he was only given 1 eye that was a Sharingan that evolve into the Rinnengan.
On October 01 2012 15:58 17Sphynx17 wrote: Oh, I have a question.
Did Pain only receive 1 eye from Madara? If yes, was he shown to have 2 rinnegan? Or just 1? I kind of recall seeing 2. And if it is 2, how did he end up with 2 if he was only given 1 eye that was a Sharingan that evolve into the Rinnengan.
Just curious.
edit: Poster below me remembered the recent chapters better. He gave both his eyes to Pain/Nagato, somehow they turned into or had alrdy evolved into the rinnengan, again details arn't exactly known. I assume the former because when Madara was revived he had the rinnengan.
On October 01 2012 15:58 17Sphynx17 wrote: Oh, I have a question.
Did Pain only receive 1 eye from Madara? If yes, was he shown to have 2 rinnegan? Or just 1? I kind of recall seeing 2. And if it is 2, how did he end up with 2 if he was only given 1 eye that was a Sharingan that evolve into the Rinnengan.
On October 01 2012 15:58 17Sphynx17 wrote: Oh, I have a question.
Did Pain only receive 1 eye from Madara? If yes, was he shown to have 2 rinnegan? Or just 1? I kind of recall seeing 2. And if it is 2, how did he end up with 2 if he was only given 1 eye that was a Sharingan that evolve into the Rinnengan.
Just curious.
During the last chapters madara said that he gave away both of his eyes and the one he is using now is just a replacement.
On October 02 2012 16:58 Tachion wrote: oooooooohhhhhhhhhh shiiitttttttttt. That was really unexpected.
naw shit seems entirely expected else you make obito to be some super petty guy vs a guy who is angry over someone he trusted killing someone he liked. The question is if this is some double bluff shit or not.
On October 02 2012 17:07 acker wrote: Zetsu clone? Same way Kisame was faked.
Madara setting everything up...maybe. Not enough information.
Well, we'll know in a month or two.
Unlikely, zetsu can disguise himself as someone else, but he can't use the jutsu of the person he's shapeshifting to, and kakashi used raikiri to kill rin. Or at least it seems like it's raikiri.
Other possibility: she's been hit by some evil shmevil jutsu and the only way to end it is by killing her. Rin begs Kakashi to kill her, he does it and Obito walks in on the perfect moment. It does look like Kakashi's crying.
The same happened in Bleach with Rukia and that guy who looks like ichigo.