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On September 12 2012 04:11 Courthead wrote:
God, this shit is so funny. I said about 10,000 times that Madara knew Nagato, and that he worked with Tobi to get Nagato to resurrect him with the Rinnegan, and ppl kept saying that wasn't possible. Now it happens and they're whining about plotholes b/c they haven't paid any attention whatsoever to the timeline of the Narutoverse or the subtle hints Kishi's been dropping for the last 100 chapters.
Feels so good to be right ^_^
That's funny. The first post that I found said this:
On October 15 2011 18:49 Courthead wrote:And by the way, for people who still feel like arguing about what happened when Orochimaru tried to summon the 4th Hokage, Kabuto already explained it. Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 10:05 Slaughter wrote:How he knew about Nagato...who knows. Yeah, that's the big hurdle to get over. How could Madara have known about Nagato? Either he did some time traveling, or Nagato is really fucking old, or he's referring to a different Nagato with similar abilities.
Admittedly, you changed your viewpoint shortly after. However, you were just arguing with 1 guy who likes to pull random crap out of his ass so good job of prevailing over him.
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On September 12 2012 04:11 Courthead wrote:
God, this shit is so funny. I said about 10,000 times that Madara knew Nagato, and that he worked with Tobi to get Nagato to resurrect him with the Rinnegan, and ppl kept saying that wasn't possible. Now it happens and they're whining about plotholes b/c they haven't paid any attention whatsoever to the timeline of the Narutoverse or the subtle hints Kishi's been dropping for the last 100 chapters.
Feels so good to be right ^_^
For real though, stop whining about plot holes. Are you guys even READING the manga? Kishi is obviously aware that Madara is much, much older than Obito. When Tobi was claiming to be Madara, Kishi even drew the other characters to be in disbelief because Madara is too old. Its exceedingly obvious that Kishi is aware of the age discrepancies, and based on the end of this chapter, he's about to explain everything. Really, try to name ONE major plothole that's unresolvable. I'll buy you a cookie.
flashback picture of obito and the 4th hokage face is already on the mountain.
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On September 12 2012 01:55 mRpolite wrote:
kabuto is not the only one who was collecting dna
orochimaru started the hole thing
So.. regarding this hole.. what dna are we collecting again?
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On September 12 2012 04:59 Chaggi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 04:11 Courthead wrote:
God, this shit is so funny. I said about 10,000 times that Madara knew Nagato, and that he worked with Tobi to get Nagato to resurrect him with the Rinnegan, and ppl kept saying that wasn't possible. Now it happens and they're whining about plotholes b/c they haven't paid any attention whatsoever to the timeline of the Narutoverse or the subtle hints Kishi's been dropping for the last 100 chapters.
Feels so good to be right ^_^
For real though, stop whining about plot holes. Are you guys even READING the manga? Kishi is obviously aware that Madara is much, much older than Obito. When Tobi was claiming to be Madara, Kishi even drew the other characters to be in disbelief because Madara is too old. Its exceedingly obvious that Kishi is aware of the age discrepancies, and based on the end of this chapter, he's about to explain everything. Really, try to name ONE major plothole that's unresolvable. I'll buy you a cookie. flashback picture of obito and the 4th hokage face is already on the mountain.
That's pretty unrelated to the plot. Could be classified as a slip or a mistake OR it could be intentional we don't know for sure yet.
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Lovely how there are still people defending Kishi lol
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Lovely how people are criticising Kishi lol
see what I did there?
the thing is the people defending him back their arguements up with real points and the guys who are annoyed call everything that hasn't been revealed yet evidence for plothole and then continue reading the manga anyway?
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Madara killed secretly killed Rin to make Obito mad. Obito blames Kakashi. Obito, after almost killing Kakashi and Gai is going to realize that Madara was the culprit and hes going team up with Naruto to kill Madara. E-Z-P-Z.
Obito going to point to Madara, "There is only one truth! You are the murderer!"
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On September 12 2012 06:59 Ym1r wrote:
Madara killed secretly killed Rin to make Obito mad. Obito blames Kakashi. Obito, after almost killing Kakashi and Gai is going to realize that Madara was the culprit and hes going team up with Naruto to kill Madara. E-Z-P-Z.
Obito going to point to Madara, "There is only one truth! You are the murderer!"
when i read the line "obito going to point to madara" all i pictured was Phoenix Wright "OBJECTION!" lol sorry no clue off topic.
not sure what's going to happen now but at least there's some level of drama again.
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On September 12 2012 05:00 MrStorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 01:55 mRpolite wrote:
kabuto is not the only one who was collecting dna
orochimaru started the hole thing So.. regarding this hole.. what dna are we collecting again?
i don't undestand your question
is ther any other type of dna except the only one we scientifically know of?
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On September 11 2012 16:47 FakeDeath wrote:
This is so sad really.
Obito is just another Sasuke-esque character that was just brainwashed into Madara puppet.
Tsunade body is split into half???
Is she gonna die?
Now it begins the major flashback to retcon all those events that happen.
Let's see how Kishi deal with this.
if Tsunade doesnt die then how does Naruto become Hokage?
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On September 12 2012 07:43 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 16:47 FakeDeath wrote:
This is so sad really.
Obito is just another Sasuke-esque character that was just brainwashed into Madara puppet.
Tsunade body is split into half???
Is she gonna die?
Now it begins the major flashback to retcon all those events that happen.
Let's see how Kishi deal with this. if Tsunade doesnt die then how does Naruto become Hokage?
She is so badly injured that she cannot be a hokage any more?
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On September 12 2012 07:46 DrGreen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 07:43 Forikorder wrote:On September 11 2012 16:47 FakeDeath wrote:
This is so sad really.
Obito is just another Sasuke-esque character that was just brainwashed into Madara puppet.
Tsunade body is split into half???
Is she gonna die?
Now it begins the major flashback to retcon all those events that happen.
Let's see how Kishi deal with this. if Tsunade doesnt die then how does Naruto become Hokage? She is so badly injured that she cannot be a hokage any more?
thats no fun this way we get a tearjerker of her going to meet Jiraiya or some sappy line like that
besides someone important has to die in this war and so far theres been no important casulties
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On September 12 2012 07:51 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 07:46 DrGreen wrote:On September 12 2012 07:43 Forikorder wrote:On September 11 2012 16:47 FakeDeath wrote:
This is so sad really.
Obito is just another Sasuke-esque character that was just brainwashed into Madara puppet.
Tsunade body is split into half???
Is she gonna die?
Now it begins the major flashback to retcon all those events that happen.
Let's see how Kishi deal with this. if Tsunade doesnt die then how does Naruto become Hokage? She is so badly injured that she cannot be a hokage any more? thats no fun this way we get a tearjerker of her going to meet Jiraiya or some sappy line like that besides someone important has to die in this war and so far theres been no important casulties The first casualty of war is innocence.
But yeah, it´s been a bloodless war so far, the clones and the undead have all been dealt with at the cost of nameless ninja who noone cares about.
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On September 12 2012 08:23 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 07:51 Forikorder wrote:On September 12 2012 07:46 DrGreen wrote:On September 12 2012 07:43 Forikorder wrote:On September 11 2012 16:47 FakeDeath wrote:
This is so sad really.
Obito is just another Sasuke-esque character that was just brainwashed into Madara puppet.
Tsunade body is split into half???
Is she gonna die?
Now it begins the major flashback to retcon all those events that happen.
Let's see how Kishi deal with this. if Tsunade doesnt die then how does Naruto become Hokage? She is so badly injured that she cannot be a hokage any more? thats no fun this way we get a tearjerker of her going to meet Jiraiya or some sappy line like that besides someone important has to die in this war and so far theres been no important casulties The first casualty of war is innocence. But yeah, it´s been a bloodless war so far, the clones and the undead have all been dealt with at the cost of nameless ninja who noone cares about.
sure sucks to not have a name
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United States63 Posts
What if the 'old' looking part of Obito has something to do with the 'old' Madara? Haha something like Madara gave his life and gave him half his body (after corrupting him to some degree of course) to give Obito a full body again? I feel like that'd be a valid thing for Madara to do, given the fact that he's old as balls (being part of the 1st Hokage generation andall), it'd be logical to corrupt and train a pawn while knowing that he will eventually be ressurected at his prime. CONSPIRACY
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On September 12 2012 07:43 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 16:47 FakeDeath wrote:
This is so sad really.
Obito is just another Sasuke-esque character that was just brainwashed into Madara puppet.
Tsunade body is split into half???
Is she gonna die?
Now it begins the major flashback to retcon all those events that happen.
Let's see how Kishi deal with this. if Tsunade doesnt die then how does Naruto become Hokage?
There is no reason she has to die for Naruto to become Hokage. The 3rd just retired, so why can't she? Or do you want Naruto to become the Hokage right now?
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On September 12 2012 04:59 Chaggi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 04:11 Courthead wrote:
God, this shit is so funny. I said about 10,000 times that Madara knew Nagato, and that he worked with Tobi to get Nagato to resurrect him with the Rinnegan, and ppl kept saying that wasn't possible. Now it happens and they're whining about plotholes b/c they haven't paid any attention whatsoever to the timeline of the Narutoverse or the subtle hints Kishi's been dropping for the last 100 chapters.
Feels so good to be right ^_^
For real though, stop whining about plot holes. Are you guys even READING the manga? Kishi is obviously aware that Madara is much, much older than Obito. When Tobi was claiming to be Madara, Kishi even drew the other characters to be in disbelief because Madara is too old. Its exceedingly obvious that Kishi is aware of the age discrepancies, and based on the end of this chapter, he's about to explain everything. Really, try to name ONE major plothole that's unresolvable. I'll buy you a cookie. flashback picture of obito and the 4th hokage face is already on the mountain.
Not a plot hole, just an error. It's like drawing the mole on the wrong side of a character's face or something.
On September 12 2012 06:55 Slayer91 wrote:
Lovely how people are criticising Kishi lol
see what I did there?
the thing is the people defending him back their arguements up with real points and the guys who are annoyed call everything that hasn't been revealed yet evidence for plothole and then continue reading the manga anyway?
This. This 1000 times. Just because something has not been revealed yet does not make it an inexplicable "plot hole".
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I am calling it, Naruto will destroy the moon and thus no more moons eye plan. Stranger things have happened in this damn series.
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United States63 Posts
I actually think that if the 9tails and 8tails get captured and the plan goes through (a darker turn of events), it can make for a very interesting story. Kind of like a world that is living a dellusional life, but a select few (main characters of course) who aren't affected by it have to go and stop Madara/Tobi. I think that'd make for a very good storyline. Same villian, different arc.
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Half of Obito's body is from whatever Zetsu is made out of, most likely. The Rinnegan from Nagato was given by or influenced by Madara, since it was likely Tobi wasn't even born yet when Nagato first awakened it. Nagato has to be the same age or older than the 4th Hokage. Guessing Madara used whatever he got from the First Hokage to heal up Tobi and made Zetsu beforehand or after. I find it interesting that the non-Zetsu clone has a half body of black and white. Poor Ten tails... if the plan is complete.. he would have to inhabit a dead resurrected body or a half crippled plant body... that's unless they use Sasuke 
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