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On August 30 2012 01:04 Kazeyonoma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 00:18 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 30 2012 00:18 aTnClouD wrote:On August 30 2012 00:15 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 30 2012 00:07 LovE- wrote:On August 30 2012 00:03 ticklishmusic wrote:
why is it so hard to believe...
tobi is the same age as kakashi. It's just because of the whole Obito controlling the Fox and fighting Minato thing that throws this so far off. Obito barely learned how to fight moments beofre he was crushed, and then he is supposed to be able to take on a Hokage 1 year after that? Also he claimed to have been the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan yet wasn't that before Obito was born? Time is subjective Jiraiya taught the Ame Orphans. Jiraiya taught Minato. Minato taught Team Minato (wow shocking name huh..?) which had Rin, Obito, and Kakashi. Then Obito turned into Tobi at the battle of the Kannabi bridge. ugh seeing this laid out again (i just didn't recall) makes it all that much more confusing about the whole "i gave him the rinnegan", the only thing I can think of is that Obito isn't really obito, but is actually Madara transferred into the body of Obito + Zetsu or something... that could possibly explain his motives, his sudden power jump, the age issues, etc...
No, just No. Madara is Madara, plain and simple, we see him clearly techincally alive now fighting the gokage. Kishi want's to shock us, not bore us. So Obito is logical choice. He can come up with any explanation, like time slower in kamui dimension and Madara assisting him or anything like that.
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he's gotta be just using the body
but potential plotholes aside, i think this chapter was really nicely done. the no text is nice and the portrayals of now dead characters like hayate when they were young are really interesting.
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On August 30 2012 01:05 shark. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 00:53 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:49 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:43 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:37 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 30 2012 00:30 darkmetal505 wrote:Trollbito Let's do a little math here. Kakashi was 26 - 27 pre time skip and Naruto was 12 - 13. During Gaiden, Kakashi was 13. Kakashi at the time Naruto was born = 26 - 12 = 13 years old. If we're assuming Obito is around the same age as Kakashi and Tobi is indeed Obito, then Tobi fought the 4th when he was 14, max 15. In ~1-2 years after getting half of his body crushed, he was able to fight the 4th Hokage. Well didn't Sasori murder the 3rd Kazekage at that age too? I don't personally believe age to be a barrier in terms of combat power. Look at Itachi, he was about 18-19 in the series and ended up being one of the most badass characters who hypothetically could take out Jiraiya (albeit he'd die in the process). Also, Itachi fucking solo'd Orochimaru and cut off his arm at the age of 11!! Uhm wat?? Itachi was way older then 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru. Also how could he be made chief of Anbu when he was 13 if he was in the Akatsuki when he was 11? Nope, Itachi joined Akatsuki 2 years before the Uchiha Masacre, so he was 11. This has been known on almost all naruto forums. He was 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru lol. After the Massacre, he just became a missing-nin, but had already been in Akatsuki since age 11. WTF. That makes no sense. Care to ellaborate on why Itachi at 11 was messing around inside probably the most dangerous organization around and was still accepted to be in the Anbu. Plus why It has been said that he joined the akatsuki after defecting from konoha to protect the village.
Kishi messes up timelines, but read this if you want, but it's already been established that he was working for both the Akatsuki and the Anbu. He was in fact 11 when he first fought Orochimaru.
http://www.nwanime.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13101
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On August 30 2012 01:06 Fumanchu wrote:
So who was in the coffin then?
You mean when Kabuto confronted Tobi for the first time? They already revealed it was Madara's body.
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On August 30 2012 00:53 zidaneshead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 00:52 Zane wrote:On August 30 2012 00:30 FakeDeath wrote:
things kishi has to explain:
16. Why did Kisame recognize him? Ya that's true, he took his mask off for Kisame. Also at what point was he controlling the Mizukage?
Yagura. He controlled the fourth Mizukage (Not Mei, she's the fifth) which turned the village into the "blood mist," village due to the graduation ritual.
On a guess that was to weaken the village's strength but nevertheless Yagura was controlled by Tobi/Obito.
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On August 30 2012 00:55 Wrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 00:53 zidaneshead wrote:On August 30 2012 00:52 Zane wrote:On August 30 2012 00:30 FakeDeath wrote:
things kishi has to explain:
16. Why did Kisame recognize him? Ya that's true, he took his mask off for Kisame. Also at what point was he controlling the Mizukage? People speculate that Kisame knew Tobi/Obito wasn't Madara, and just sarcastically called him "Madara" to play along with Obito playing the whole different identity thing.
Madara appeared to Kisame when he first recruited him ( after Kisame defeated his former master and took Samehada for himself ).
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On August 30 2012 01:06 Wrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 01:04 Kazeyonoma wrote:On August 30 2012 00:18 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 30 2012 00:18 aTnClouD wrote:On August 30 2012 00:15 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 30 2012 00:07 LovE- wrote:On August 30 2012 00:03 ticklishmusic wrote:
why is it so hard to believe...
tobi is the same age as kakashi. It's just because of the whole Obito controlling the Fox and fighting Minato thing that throws this so far off. Obito barely learned how to fight moments beofre he was crushed, and then he is supposed to be able to take on a Hokage 1 year after that? Also he claimed to have been the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan yet wasn't that before Obito was born? Time is subjective Jiraiya taught the Ame Orphans. Jiraiya taught Minato. Minato taught Team Minato (wow shocking name huh..?) which had Rin, Obito, and Kakashi. Then Obito turned into Tobi at the battle of the Kannabi bridge. ugh seeing this laid out again (i just didn't recall) makes it all that much more confusing about the whole "i gave him the rinnegan", the only thing I can think of is that Obito isn't really obito, but is actually Madara transferred into the body of Obito + Zetsu or something... that could possibly explain his motives, his sudden power jump, the age issues, etc... No, just No. Madara is Madara, plain and simple, we see him clearly techincally alive now fighting the gokage. Kishi want's to shock us, not bore us. So Obito is logical choice. He can come up with any explanation, like time slower in kamui dimension and Madara assisting him or anything like that.
I could see something like him warping himself to his dimension when he was on the brink of death and spending years in there not knowing how to get out cause he doesn't know how to activate the jutsu again. Him being alone for so long twists him into what he is now. He's like Naruto in that respect but instead of beating solitude it consumed him.
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On August 30 2012 01:05 shark. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 00:53 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:49 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:43 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:37 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 30 2012 00:30 darkmetal505 wrote:Trollbito Let's do a little math here. Kakashi was 26 - 27 pre time skip and Naruto was 12 - 13. During Gaiden, Kakashi was 13. Kakashi at the time Naruto was born = 26 - 12 = 13 years old. If we're assuming Obito is around the same age as Kakashi and Tobi is indeed Obito, then Tobi fought the 4th when he was 14, max 15. In ~1-2 years after getting half of his body crushed, he was able to fight the 4th Hokage. Well didn't Sasori murder the 3rd Kazekage at that age too? I don't personally believe age to be a barrier in terms of combat power. Look at Itachi, he was about 18-19 in the series and ended up being one of the most badass characters who hypothetically could take out Jiraiya (albeit he'd die in the process). Also, Itachi fucking solo'd Orochimaru and cut off his arm at the age of 11!! Uhm wat?? Itachi was way older then 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru. Also how could he be made chief of Anbu when he was 13 if he was in the Akatsuki when he was 11? Nope, Itachi joined Akatsuki 2 years before the Uchiha Masacre, so he was 11. This has been known on almost all naruto forums. He was 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru lol. After the Massacre, he just became a missing-nin, but had already been in Akatsuki since age 11. WTF. That makes no sense. Care to ellaborate on why Itachi at 11 was messing around inside probably the most dangerous organization around and was still accepted to be in the Anbu. Plus why It has been said that he joined the akatsuki after defecting from konoha to protect the village.
Here is some more stuff that people have gathered.
From this panel if you do the math, Itachi was 18 here, subtract 7 years. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/p.jpg
And from this panel, subtract 10 years, he is 21 at this time.http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/page-14.jpg
There's many more posts and such, but ya, he was 11 when he first joined the Akatsuki and also was Anbu, he then became Anbu captain at 13 for a short while.
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Team we are about to get retconned. Prepare yourselves.
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lol how clever Tobi is Obito.
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On August 30 2012 01:12 Wrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 01:05 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:53 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:49 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:43 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:37 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 30 2012 00:30 darkmetal505 wrote:Trollbito Let's do a little math here. Kakashi was 26 - 27 pre time skip and Naruto was 12 - 13. During Gaiden, Kakashi was 13. Kakashi at the time Naruto was born = 26 - 12 = 13 years old. If we're assuming Obito is around the same age as Kakashi and Tobi is indeed Obito, then Tobi fought the 4th when he was 14, max 15. In ~1-2 years after getting half of his body crushed, he was able to fight the 4th Hokage. Well didn't Sasori murder the 3rd Kazekage at that age too? I don't personally believe age to be a barrier in terms of combat power. Look at Itachi, he was about 18-19 in the series and ended up being one of the most badass characters who hypothetically could take out Jiraiya (albeit he'd die in the process). Also, Itachi fucking solo'd Orochimaru and cut off his arm at the age of 11!! Uhm wat?? Itachi was way older then 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru. Also how could he be made chief of Anbu when he was 13 if he was in the Akatsuki when he was 11? Nope, Itachi joined Akatsuki 2 years before the Uchiha Masacre, so he was 11. This has been known on almost all naruto forums. He was 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru lol. After the Massacre, he just became a missing-nin, but had already been in Akatsuki since age 11. WTF. That makes no sense. Care to ellaborate on why Itachi at 11 was messing around inside probably the most dangerous organization around and was still accepted to be in the Anbu. Plus why It has been said that he joined the akatsuki after defecting from konoha to protect the village. Here is some more stuff that people have gathered. From this panel if you do the math, Itachi was 18 here, subtract 7 years. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/p.jpgAnd from this panel, subtract 10 years, he is 21 at this time.http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/page-14.jpg There's many more posts and such, but ya, he was 11 when he first joined the Akatsuki and also was Anbu, he then became Anbu captain at 13 for a short while.
Well this is weird. Orochimaru thinks before trying to steal Itachi's body " to think the one who destroyed the uchiha would join the akatsuki.... SO according to this Itachi joins the akatsuki after the massacre. That also fits with what Tobi tells sasuke..... wtf
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On August 30 2012 01:20 shark. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 01:12 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 01:05 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:53 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:49 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:43 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:37 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 30 2012 00:30 darkmetal505 wrote:Trollbito Let's do a little math here. Kakashi was 26 - 27 pre time skip and Naruto was 12 - 13. During Gaiden, Kakashi was 13. Kakashi at the time Naruto was born = 26 - 12 = 13 years old. If we're assuming Obito is around the same age as Kakashi and Tobi is indeed Obito, then Tobi fought the 4th when he was 14, max 15. In ~1-2 years after getting half of his body crushed, he was able to fight the 4th Hokage. Well didn't Sasori murder the 3rd Kazekage at that age too? I don't personally believe age to be a barrier in terms of combat power. Look at Itachi, he was about 18-19 in the series and ended up being one of the most badass characters who hypothetically could take out Jiraiya (albeit he'd die in the process). Also, Itachi fucking solo'd Orochimaru and cut off his arm at the age of 11!! Uhm wat?? Itachi was way older then 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru. Also how could he be made chief of Anbu when he was 13 if he was in the Akatsuki when he was 11? Nope, Itachi joined Akatsuki 2 years before the Uchiha Masacre, so he was 11. This has been known on almost all naruto forums. He was 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru lol. After the Massacre, he just became a missing-nin, but had already been in Akatsuki since age 11. WTF. That makes no sense. Care to ellaborate on why Itachi at 11 was messing around inside probably the most dangerous organization around and was still accepted to be in the Anbu. Plus why It has been said that he joined the akatsuki after defecting from konoha to protect the village. Here is some more stuff that people have gathered. From this panel if you do the math, Itachi was 18 here, subtract 7 years. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/p.jpgAnd from this panel, subtract 10 years, he is 21 at this time.http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/page-14.jpg There's many more posts and such, but ya, he was 11 when he first joined the Akatsuki and also was Anbu, he then became Anbu captain at 13 for a short while. Well this is weird. Orochimaru thinks before trying to steal Itachi's body " to think the one who destroyed the uchiha would join the akatsuki.... SO according to this Itachi joins the akatsuki after the massacre. That also fits with what Tobi tells sasuke..... wtf
Nope. Itachi was affiliated with Akatsuki at age 11, and didn't fully join until after the Massacre. But his scuffle with Oro was when he was 11, everyone knows that in the narutoforums. Also here is a paragraph from the Akatsuki in naruto wiki
"Itachi Uchiha apparently joined before carrying out the Uchiha clan massacre for which he defected from Konohagakure, though his membership seems to have come with the stipulation that Akatsuki could make no direct movements against Konoha. When Itachi joined, Orochimaru attempted to steal his body in order to gain the Sharingan. This failed and he was forced to defect. Deidara was recruited to replace Orochimaru as Sasori's partner, but because Orochimaru took his Akatsuki ring with him he could not also replace Orochimaru's position. Akatsuki also captured two tailed beasts before Part II, which in the anime are indicated to have been the Five-Tails and the Seven-Tails."
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On August 30 2012 01:20 shark. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 01:12 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 01:05 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:53 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:49 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:43 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:37 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 30 2012 00:30 darkmetal505 wrote:Trollbito Let's do a little math here. Kakashi was 26 - 27 pre time skip and Naruto was 12 - 13. During Gaiden, Kakashi was 13. Kakashi at the time Naruto was born = 26 - 12 = 13 years old. If we're assuming Obito is around the same age as Kakashi and Tobi is indeed Obito, then Tobi fought the 4th when he was 14, max 15. In ~1-2 years after getting half of his body crushed, he was able to fight the 4th Hokage. Well didn't Sasori murder the 3rd Kazekage at that age too? I don't personally believe age to be a barrier in terms of combat power. Look at Itachi, he was about 18-19 in the series and ended up being one of the most badass characters who hypothetically could take out Jiraiya (albeit he'd die in the process). Also, Itachi fucking solo'd Orochimaru and cut off his arm at the age of 11!! Uhm wat?? Itachi was way older then 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru. Also how could he be made chief of Anbu when he was 13 if he was in the Akatsuki when he was 11? Nope, Itachi joined Akatsuki 2 years before the Uchiha Masacre, so he was 11. This has been known on almost all naruto forums. He was 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru lol. After the Massacre, he just became a missing-nin, but had already been in Akatsuki since age 11. WTF. That makes no sense. Care to ellaborate on why Itachi at 11 was messing around inside probably the most dangerous organization around and was still accepted to be in the Anbu. Plus why It has been said that he joined the akatsuki after defecting from konoha to protect the village. Here is some more stuff that people have gathered. From this panel if you do the math, Itachi was 18 here, subtract 7 years. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/p.jpgAnd from this panel, subtract 10 years, he is 21 at this time.http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/page-14.jpg There's many more posts and such, but ya, he was 11 when he first joined the Akatsuki and also was Anbu, he then became Anbu captain at 13 for a short while. Well this is weird. Orochimaru thinks before trying to steal Itachi's body " to think the one who destroyed the uchiha would join the akatsuki.... SO according to this Itachi joins the akatsuki after the massacre. That also fits with what Tobi tells sasuke..... wtf
And no, Orochimaru never said that during their scuffle. Here you go.http://www.mangapanda.com/93-350-9/naruto/chapter-345.html
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On August 30 2012 01:23 Wrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 01:20 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 01:12 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 01:05 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:53 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:49 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:43 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:37 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 30 2012 00:30 darkmetal505 wrote:Trollbito Let's do a little math here. Kakashi was 26 - 27 pre time skip and Naruto was 12 - 13. During Gaiden, Kakashi was 13. Kakashi at the time Naruto was born = 26 - 12 = 13 years old. If we're assuming Obito is around the same age as Kakashi and Tobi is indeed Obito, then Tobi fought the 4th when he was 14, max 15. In ~1-2 years after getting half of his body crushed, he was able to fight the 4th Hokage. Well didn't Sasori murder the 3rd Kazekage at that age too? I don't personally believe age to be a barrier in terms of combat power. Look at Itachi, he was about 18-19 in the series and ended up being one of the most badass characters who hypothetically could take out Jiraiya (albeit he'd die in the process). Also, Itachi fucking solo'd Orochimaru and cut off his arm at the age of 11!! Uhm wat?? Itachi was way older then 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru. Also how could he be made chief of Anbu when he was 13 if he was in the Akatsuki when he was 11? Nope, Itachi joined Akatsuki 2 years before the Uchiha Masacre, so he was 11. This has been known on almost all naruto forums. He was 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru lol. After the Massacre, he just became a missing-nin, but had already been in Akatsuki since age 11. WTF. That makes no sense. Care to ellaborate on why Itachi at 11 was messing around inside probably the most dangerous organization around and was still accepted to be in the Anbu. Plus why It has been said that he joined the akatsuki after defecting from konoha to protect the village. Here is some more stuff that people have gathered. From this panel if you do the math, Itachi was 18 here, subtract 7 years. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/p.jpgAnd from this panel, subtract 10 years, he is 21 at this time.http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/page-14.jpg There's many more posts and such, but ya, he was 11 when he first joined the Akatsuki and also was Anbu, he then became Anbu captain at 13 for a short while. Well this is weird. Orochimaru thinks before trying to steal Itachi's body " to think the one who destroyed the uchiha would join the akatsuki.... SO according to this Itachi joins the akatsuki after the massacre. That also fits with what Tobi tells sasuke..... wtf Nope. Itachi was affiliated with Akatsuki at age 11, and didn't fully join until after the Massacre. But his scuffle with Oro was when he was 11, everyone knows that in the narutoforums. Also here is a paragraph from the Akatsuki in naruto wiki "Itachi Uchiha apparently joined before carrying out the Uchiha clan massacre for which he defected from Konohagakure, though his membership seems to have come with the stipulation that Akatsuki could make no direct movements against Konoha. When Itachi joined, Orochimaru attempted to steal his body in order to gain the Sharingan. This failed and he was forced to defect. Deidara was recruited to replace Orochimaru as Sasori's partner, but because Orochimaru took his Akatsuki ring with him he could not also replace Orochimaru's position. Akatsuki also captured two tailed beasts before Part II, which in the anime are indicated to have been the Five-Tails and the Seven-Tails."
Hmmm. If you are going from naruto wikia
"Itachi joined Akatsuki in order to keep an eye on the organisation,[9] along with Tobi, in case either ever acted against Konoha, all the while planning for his death at Sasuke's hands. During his time in Akatsuki, Orochimaru tried to steal his body to gain the Sharingan, but Itachi trapped him in a genjutsu and severed his left hand.[10] Itachi was further partnered with Kisame Hoshigaki, who initially tried to intimidate him.[11] However, they eventually became good partners. Sometime after Orochimaru fled, Itachi helped recruit Deidara by beating him in battle using only genjutsu, to which Deidara swore vengeance.[12"
Which means he had joined after and Orochimaru attempted to steal his body after this. Kishi has obvioulsy fucked up here .
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On August 30 2012 01:27 shark. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 01:23 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 01:20 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 01:12 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 01:05 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:53 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:49 shark. wrote:On August 30 2012 00:43 Wrecken wrote:On August 30 2012 00:37 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 30 2012 00:30 darkmetal505 wrote:
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Trollbito
Let's do a little math here. Kakashi was 26 - 27 pre time skip and Naruto was 12 - 13. During Gaiden, Kakashi was 13. Kakashi at the time Naruto was born = 26 - 12 = 13 years old.
If we're assuming Obito is around the same age as Kakashi and Tobi is indeed Obito, then Tobi fought the 4th when he was 14, max 15. In ~1-2 years after getting half of his body crushed, he was able to fight the 4th Hokage. Well didn't Sasori murder the 3rd Kazekage at that age too? I don't personally believe age to be a barrier in terms of combat power. Look at Itachi, he was about 18-19 in the series and ended up being one of the most badass characters who hypothetically could take out Jiraiya (albeit he'd die in the process). Also, Itachi fucking solo'd Orochimaru and cut off his arm at the age of 11!! Uhm wat?? Itachi was way older then 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru. Also how could he be made chief of Anbu when he was 13 if he was in the Akatsuki when he was 11? Nope, Itachi joined Akatsuki 2 years before the Uchiha Masacre, so he was 11. This has been known on almost all naruto forums. He was 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru lol. After the Massacre, he just became a missing-nin, but had already been in Akatsuki since age 11. WTF. That makes no sense. Care to ellaborate on why Itachi at 11 was messing around inside probably the most dangerous organization around and was still accepted to be in the Anbu. Plus why It has been said that he joined the akatsuki after defecting from konoha to protect the village. Here is some more stuff that people have gathered. From this panel if you do the math, Itachi was 18 here, subtract 7 years. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/p.jpgAnd from this panel, subtract 10 years, he is 21 at this time.http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh125/uzumaki619/page-14.jpg There's many more posts and such, but ya, he was 11 when he first joined the Akatsuki and also was Anbu, he then became Anbu captain at 13 for a short while. Well this is weird. Orochimaru thinks before trying to steal Itachi's body " to think the one who destroyed the uchiha would join the akatsuki.... SO according to this Itachi joins the akatsuki after the massacre. That also fits with what Tobi tells sasuke..... wtf Nope. Itachi was affiliated with Akatsuki at age 11, and didn't fully join until after the Massacre. But his scuffle with Oro was when he was 11, everyone knows that in the narutoforums. Also here is a paragraph from the Akatsuki in naruto wiki "Itachi Uchiha apparently joined before carrying out the Uchiha clan massacre for which he defected from Konohagakure, though his membership seems to have come with the stipulation that Akatsuki could make no direct movements against Konoha. When Itachi joined, Orochimaru attempted to steal his body in order to gain the Sharingan. This failed and he was forced to defect. Deidara was recruited to replace Orochimaru as Sasori's partner, but because Orochimaru took his Akatsuki ring with him he could not also replace Orochimaru's position. Akatsuki also captured two tailed beasts before Part II, which in the anime are indicated to have been the Five-Tails and the Seven-Tails." Hmmm. If you are going from naruto wikia "Itachi joined Akatsuki in order to keep an eye on the organisation,[9] along with Tobi, in case either ever acted against Konoha, all the while planning for his death at Sasuke's hands. During his time in Akatsuki, Orochimaru tried to steal his body to gain the Sharingan, but Itachi trapped him in a genjutsu and severed his left hand.[10] Itachi was further partnered with Kisame Hoshigaki, who initially tried to intimidate him.[11] However, they eventually became good partners. Sometime after Orochimaru fled, Itachi helped recruit Deidara by beating him in battle using only genjutsu, to which Deidara swore vengeance.[12" Which means he had joined after and Orochimaru attempted to steal his body after this. Kishi has obvioulsy fucked up here .
From that very wiki btw, "Itachi Uchiha apparently joined before carrying out the Uchiha clan massacre"
Read my previous post, he was affiliated with Akatsuki at 11, and fully joined after masscre. Also Oro never said those things when they fought here you go. http://www.mangapanda.com/93-350-9/naruto/chapter-345.html
Also, just read all the math posts on his age. Everyone agrees that he was indeed 11 when he first became affiliated with Akatsuki. It't not even disputed anymore on the narutofrums, simply because all the math has been given.
Just read this or countless other threads on it. It is a fuck up by Kishi, yes, but still, he was 11 at that fight.http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=141
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Im glad we agree that it was a fuck up.
BTW you linked one of the many wrong flashbacks that occur throughout the history of Naruto. Oh and Orochimaru did say that. It is all just a fuck up by kishi. I no longer see the point in discussing this.
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On August 30 2012 01:36 shark. wrote:
Im glad we agree that it was a fuck up.
BTW you linked one of the many wrong flashbacks that occur throughout the history of Naruto. Oh and Orochimaru did say that. It is all just a fuck up by kishi. I no longer see the point in discussing this.
No he didn't say that during their fight...did you not read the link I gave you of when they fought?
Everyone on the narutoforums agrees that he was 11 during the encounter I linked, based off of many facts, it's not even disputed. I hope you at least read the thread that explains it all. But he was affiliated at 11, no dispution on any manga/naruto forum, only one so far that disputes it, seems to be you on the TL forum :/
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god, this is gonna be interesting...i just wish it didn't take a week to find out more info. i will hand it to kishi, he's got me talking about naruto pretty intensely right now =P
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Yeah dude, everyone knows that on the narutoforums. Are you blind?
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