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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:15 IntoTheheart wrote: Also he claimed to have been the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan yet wasn't that before Obito was born? He claimed a lot of stupid shit. He lied. What's the big deal... | ||
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darkmetal505
United States639 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:24 DrGreen wrote: just found this on deviantart, I feel like sharing it (its about this chapter) http://www.deviantart.com/#/d5cyaf6 Trollbito Let's do a little math here. Kakashi was 26 - 27 pre time skip and Naruto was 12 - 13. During Gaiden, Kakashi was 13. Kakashi at the time Naruto was born = 26 - 12 = 13 years old. If we're assuming Obito is around the same age as Kakashi and Tobi is indeed Obito, then Tobi fought the 4th when he was 14, max 15. In ~1-2 years after getting half of his body crushed, he was able to fight the 4th Hokage. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
1. obito growth (fight minato vs tobi... and minato mistaking him for madara.. instead of his own student?! the KAGE messes up chakra recognition?) 2. obitos survival (he was on his dying bed.. and tons of rocks fell on him.. (did he really activated state 1-tomoe -> mangekyou in ONE moment???? most talented uchiha EVER??) 3. liquified arm (fight minato vs tobi) 4. change of heart (obito=good guy, kind hearted / tobi=bad guy, god complex) 5. knowledge about history of the sage, madara and izuna, etc. 6. NOT returning to the village after he survived (even if its some ridiculous timetravel stuff.. he still could have returned to HIS time and said "hey guys, i survived..oh and with my eye there is some serious timetravel shit going on!" 7. hate against uchiha in general 8. collection of eyes (purpose??) 9. connection to madara 10. knowledge about how to tame/summon the kyuubi and when the perfect timing is 11. knowledge about the area where kushina gave birth to naruto 12. why kyuubi messed up obitos and madaras chakra? (once controlled in madaras times against hashirama, once controlled in fight against 4th, and the mighty kyuubi messed up to recognize different chakratypes??) 13. relation to akatsuki (Obito wasnt even born when yahikos team created akatsuki) 14. Obito gave Nagato the Rinnegan? Obito wasnt even born when Nagato activated it (Jirayia was middleaged, trained nagato, returned to the village, trained YOUNG 4th hokage, 4th hokage grew up and trained YOUNG obito, simple time chain) 15. Tobi stating he fought Hashirama to steal his DNA .. after Kabuto revealed Madaras coffin .. Kabuto knew that Tobi wasnt madara.. yet he stated that he has fought hashirama...? ok.. 15 points so far.. dont know if i can come up with more, this is just stuff i remember off the spot.. not even really in depth!! I rerember back when Tobi and Deidara was first introduced. There were people who speculated Tobi is Obito and i thought they were trolling HARD. Now i feel stupid. Kishi better fucking takes his time and explains.Or else i will be pissed. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:30 darkmetal505 wrote: Trollbito Let's do a little math here. Kakashi was 26 - 27 pre time skip and Naruto was 12 - 13. During Gaiden, Kakashi was 13. Kakashi at the time Naruto was born = 26 - 12 = 13 years old. If we're assuming Obito is around the same age as Kakashi and Tobi is indeed Obito, then Tobi fought the 4th when he was 14, max 15. In ~1-2 years after getting half of his body crushed, he was able to fight the 4th Hokage. Well didn't Sasori murder the 3rd Kazekage at that age too? I don't personally believe age to be a barrier in terms of combat power. Look at Itachi, he was about 18-19 in the series and ended up being one of the most badass characters who hypothetically could take out Jiraiya (albeit he'd die in the process). | ||
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horvaa
Sweden80 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:37 IntoTheheart wrote: Well didn't Sasori murder the 3rd Kazekage at that age too? I don't personally believe age to be a barrier in terms of combat power. Look at Itachi, he was about 18-19 in the series and ended up being one of the most badass characters who hypothetically could take out Jiraiya (albeit he'd die in the process). Sasori and Itatchi was geniouses, obito was really bad (compared to other uchihas/gai/kakashi etc.) Itatchi became like anbu captain when he was 13. Obito became a chunin before he awoken the sharingan >.> Also the translation about kakashi gaiden was "around 10 years ago, not exactly 10 years ago. You could read the 2-3 last pages before you post new stuff. | ||
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:37 IntoTheheart wrote: Well didn't Sasori murder the 3rd Kazekage at that age too? I don't personally believe age to be a barrier in terms of combat power. Look at Itachi, he was about 18-19 in the series and ended up being one of the most badass characters who hypothetically could take out Jiraiya (albeit he'd die in the process). Also, Itachi fucking solo'd Orochimaru and cut off his arm at the age of 11!! | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
Here's my plot resolution: Obito had a hax sharingan ability that triggered after he was crushed at the bridge incident and trapped him, or something to that effect, in his alternate space-time dimension for several months/years. When he finally broke free and returned to his original timeline, he found that his one true love Rin had died and Kakashi had failed to protect her. I'm guessing that the circumstance's of Rin's death had something to do with the Uchiha, explaining his anger at the Uchiha. I'm guessing Nagato's rinnegan was "rightfully his" in the sense that he also had mixed Senju/Uchiha blood, and thus Rinnegan was his birthright according to some forbidden secret scrolls somewhere. Alternatively, timetravel. This explains his extreme growth over the one year before fighting minato, since he now has space-time abilities that nobody previously knew about, and also he hyberbolic time chambered that shit. | ||
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:45 Gummy wrote: So the question here is "what the fuck happened to rin?" Flashbacks, flashbacks and more flashbacks ahead of us. Be prepared. | ||
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:30 FakeDeath wrote: things kishi has to explain: 1. obito growth (fight minato vs tobi... and minato mistaking him for madara.. instead of his own student?! the KAGE messes up chakra recognition?) 2. obitos survival (he was on his dying bed.. and tons of rocks fell on him.. (did he really activated state 1-tomoe -> mangekyou in ONE moment???? most talented uchiha EVER??) 3. liquified arm (fight minato vs tobi) 4. change of heart (obito=good guy, kind hearted / tobi=bad guy, god complex) 5. knowledge about history of the sage, madara and izuna, etc. 6. NOT returning to the village after he survived (even if its some ridiculous timetravel stuff.. he still could have returned to HIS time and said "hey guys, i survived..oh and with my eye there is some serious timetravel shit going on!" 7. hate against uchiha in general 8. collection of eyes (purpose??) 9. connection to madara 10. knowledge about how to tame/summon the kyuubi and when the perfect timing is 11. knowledge about the area where kushina gave birth to naruto 12. why kyuubi messed up obitos and madaras chakra? (once controlled in madaras times against hashirama, once controlled in fight against 4th, and the mighty kyuubi messed up to recognize different chakratypes??) 13. relation to akatsuki (Obito wasnt even born when yahikos team created akatsuki) 14. Obito gave Nagato the Rinnegan? Obito wasnt even born when Nagato activated it (Jirayia was middleaged, trained nagato, returned to the village, trained YOUNG 4th hokage, 4th hokage grew up and trained YOUNG obito, simple time chain) 15. Tobi stating he fought Hashirama to steal his DNA .. after Kabuto revealed Madaras coffin .. Kabuto knew that Tobi wasnt madara.. yet he stated that he has fought hashirama...? ok.. 15 points so far.. dont know if i can come up with more, this is just stuff i remember off the spot.. not even really in depth!! I rerember back when Tobi and Deidara was first introduced. There were people who speculated Tobi is Obito and i thought they were trolling HARD. Now i feel stupid. Kishi better fucking takes his time and explains.Or else i will be pissed. This shit is definitely going to be explained. Kishi loves to explain his character's origins and their motivations and what not, which is why I love Naruto. How he survived, how he became evil and how he became so powerful is probably a given, but the things that he claimed have to be taken with a grain of salt, because we all know he lied about being Madara. | ||
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shark.
593 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:43 Wrecken wrote: Also, Itachi fucking solo'd Orochimaru and cut off his arm at the age of 11!! Uhm wat?? Itachi was way older then 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru. Also how could he be made chief of Anbu when he was 13 if he was in the Akatsuki when he was 11? | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:30 FakeDeath wrote: things kishi has to explain: 16. Why did Kisame recognize him? 17. Just how was he trying to prove Sasuke he was Madara by taking his mask off, right before Sasuke set him on fire? | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:49 shark. wrote: Uhm wat?? Itachi was way older then 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru. Also how could he be made chief of Anbu when he was 13 if he was in the Akatsuki when he was 11? Nope, Itachi joined Akatsuki 2 years before the Uchiha Masacre, so he was 11. This has been known on almost all naruto forums. He was 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru lol. After the Massacre, he just became a missing-nin, but had already been in Akatsuki since age 11. | ||
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zidaneshead
245 Posts
Ya that's true, he took his mask off for Kisame. Also at what point was he controlling the Mizukage? | ||
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:53 zidaneshead wrote: Ya that's true, he took his mask off for Kisame. Also at what point was he controlling the Mizukage? People speculate that Kisame knew Tobi/Obito wasn't Madara, and just sarcastically called him "Madara" to play along with Obito playing the whole different identity thing. | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:52 Zane wrote: 16. Why did Kisame recognize him? 17. Just how was he trying to prove Sasuke he was Madara by taking his mask off, right before Sasuke set him on fire? 16. Kisame has a good sense of smell. The only other smell-based people like Kiba never knew obito. If Kiba's parents, on the other hand, were to fight Tobi, we can hypothesize that they'd catch onto something. 17. Genjutsu. What Itachi gave him wasn't "anti-madara" activation; it was anti-genjutsu! | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:18 IntoTheheart wrote: Jiraiya taught the Ame Orphans. Jiraiya taught Minato. Minato taught Team Minato (wow shocking name huh..?) which had Rin, Obito, and Kakashi. Then Obito turned into Tobi at the battle of the Kannabi bridge. ugh seeing this laid out again (i just didn't recall) makes it all that much more confusing about the whole "i gave him the rinnegan", the only thing I can think of is that Obito isn't really obito, but is actually Madara transferred into the body of Obito + Zetsu or something... that could possibly explain his motives, his sudden power jump, the age issues, etc... | ||
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shark.
593 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:53 Wrecken wrote: Nope, Itachi joined Akatsuki 2 years before the Uchiha Masacre, so he was 11. This has been known on almost all naruto forums. He was 11 when he solo'd Orochimaru lol. After the Massacre, he just became a missing-nin, but had already been in Akatsuki since age 11. WTF. That makes no sense. Care to ellaborate on why Itachi at 11 was messing around inside probably the most dangerous organization around and was still accepted to be in the Anbu. Plus why It has been said that he joined the akatsuki after defecting from konoha to protect the village. | ||
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Fumanchu
Canada669 Posts
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