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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 22 2012 16:41 GMT
#10261
On August 23 2012 01:37 Sakray wrote:
Well, the author keeps making this manga a bullshit one. I mean, few chapters ago, Naruto was completely exhausted, no chakra, etc, and few minutes later, he's a tip top shape, able to use a shitlot of rasengans and even bijuu bombs, which some Hokage suit made with chakra. This is complete non-sense, it's the same kind of process than the old "is getting trashed, get angry which make him wins the fight". Or else, his techniques are not powerful enough to win, and in a blink of an eye, regardless of Kyubi's chakra, he uses a technique than you don't know how he learned it, and which is still more powerful than Kakashi, Gai, or every other powerful ninja's one.

I don't know why I'm still reading this, the absence of logic (well, even the basics one are lacking) in this manga is too damn high

if only he had some giant inexhaustible amount of Chakra sealed in his belly

maybe some source he recently became BFFs with....
Wayne123
Profile Joined July 2011
88 Posts
August 22 2012 16:57 GMT
#10262
I got the impression that Tobi knows Kakashi quite well on a personal level. In the past 3 chapters he made some comments about Kakashi which leads me to that conclusion. For example, when Tobi told Kakashi to shut up at chapter 597 page 13 and on some other occassions.("You´re just words and no actions, what someone like you says is worth nothing!")

So it´s not completly impossible that Tobi might be a person from his past. To my mind, it´s not even impossible to rule out the possibility that Tobi is Rin or Obito. I know that might sound crazy but it´s Kishimoto we´re talking about. I wouldn´t be surprised if Tobi is Obito... I´m sure Kishimoto would find an explanation for that.
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
August 22 2012 17:03 GMT
#10263
On August 23 2012 01:41 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 01:37 Sakray wrote:
Well, the author keeps making this manga a bullshit one. I mean, few chapters ago, Naruto was completely exhausted, no chakra, etc, and few minutes later, he's a tip top shape, able to use a shitlot of rasengans and even bijuu bombs, which some Hokage suit made with chakra. This is complete non-sense, it's the same kind of process than the old "is getting trashed, get angry which make him wins the fight". Or else, his techniques are not powerful enough to win, and in a blink of an eye, regardless of Kyubi's chakra, he uses a technique than you don't know how he learned it, and which is still more powerful than Kakashi, Gai, or every other powerful ninja's one.

I don't know why I'm still reading this, the absence of logic (well, even the basics one are lacking) in this manga is too damn high

if only he had some giant inexhaustible amount of Chakra sealed in his belly

maybe some source he recently became BFFs with....


Yeah but too bad he doesn't have that!


:|
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
August 22 2012 17:08 GMT
#10264
On August 23 2012 01:41 Forikorder wrote:
if only he had some giant inexhaustible amount of Chakra sealed in his belly

maybe some source he recently became BFFs with....


He already was under the influence of Kyubi iirc.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 22 2012 17:09 GMT
#10265
On August 23 2012 00:16 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 23:52 LovE- wrote:
Okay just wanted to confirm. I remember reading somewhere about people saying that Tobi doesn't have the MS.

well obviously they were wrong werent they?

Tobi has the MS just never used Susasnoo, Amaterasu or Tsukyomi


It's not that he didn't have it, it's that we had no proof that he did until this chapter. Until this chapter we had literally 0 proof that he had anything more than the basic sharingan, because kishi specifically showed only tobi's basic sharingan. Now from the last 2 chapters we know he got his eye at the bridge obito died at, that it's actually obito's eye, and on top of it that he actually does have the mangekyo.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
darkmetal505
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States639 Posts
August 22 2012 17:13 GMT
#10266
On August 23 2012 01:57 Wayne123 wrote:
I got the impression that Tobi knows Kakashi quite well on a personal level. In the past 3 chapters he made some comments about Kakashi which leads me to that conclusion. For example, when Tobi told Kakashi to shut up at chapter 597 page 13 and on some other occassions.("You´re just words and no actions, what someone like you says is worth nothing!")

So it´s not completly impossible that Tobi might be a person from his past. To my mind, it´s not even impossible to rule out the possibility that Tobi is Rin or Obito. I know that might sound crazy but it´s Kishimoto we´re talking about. I wouldn´t be surprised if Tobi is Obito... I´m sure Kishimoto would find an explanation for that.


I don't think it can be Obito. The 4th fought a grown up Tobi when Naruto was born.
OskO
Profile Joined February 2011
Argentina369 Posts
August 22 2012 17:32 GMT
#10267
On August 23 2012 02:13 darkmetal505 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 01:57 Wayne123 wrote:
I got the impression that Tobi knows Kakashi quite well on a personal level. In the past 3 chapters he made some comments about Kakashi which leads me to that conclusion. For example, when Tobi told Kakashi to shut up at chapter 597 page 13 and on some other occassions.("You´re just words and no actions, what someone like you says is worth nothing!")

So it´s not completly impossible that Tobi might be a person from his past. To my mind, it´s not even impossible to rule out the possibility that Tobi is Rin or Obito. I know that might sound crazy but it´s Kishimoto we´re talking about. I wouldn´t be surprised if Tobi is Obito... I´m sure Kishimoto would find an explanation for that.


I don't think it can be Obito. The 4th fought a grown up Tobi when Naruto was born.


Couldn't he be different people at different times?
I was wondering about that.-
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
August 22 2012 17:32 GMT
#10268
So Naruto used his Kage Bunshin and let Kakashi suck naruto kage bunshin into Tobi dimension and hit him in the face with a rasengan?

Play your best
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
August 22 2012 17:34 GMT
#10269
On August 23 2012 02:32 FakeDeath wrote:
So Naruto used his Kage Bunshin and let Kakashi suck naruto kage bunshin into Tobi dimension and hit him in the face with a rasengan?



Yep, that's pretty much what happened.
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
August 22 2012 17:40 GMT
#10270
On August 23 2012 02:34 LovE- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 02:32 FakeDeath wrote:
So Naruto used his Kage Bunshin and let Kakashi suck naruto kage bunshin into Tobi dimension and hit him in the face with a rasengan?



Yep, that's pretty much what happened.


I predicted this would happened 2 chapters ago.
I hope Kishi revealed his identity next week.

If he turns out to be Obito, i will be......................................................
Play your best
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
August 22 2012 17:45 GMT
#10271
On August 23 2012 02:40 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 02:34 LovE- wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:32 FakeDeath wrote:
So Naruto used his Kage Bunshin and let Kakashi suck naruto kage bunshin into Tobi dimension and hit him in the face with a rasengan?



Yep, that's pretty much what happened.


I predicted this would happened 2 chapters ago.
I hope Kishi revealed his identity next week.

If he turns out to be Obito, i will be......................................................


I think he is going to wait until chapter 600 to reveal. We are going to Oro next week probably.
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
August 22 2012 18:07 GMT
#10272
On August 23 2012 02:45 LovE- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 02:40 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:34 LovE- wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:32 FakeDeath wrote:
So Naruto used his Kage Bunshin and let Kakashi suck naruto kage bunshin into Tobi dimension and hit him in the face with a rasengan?



Yep, that's pretty much what happened.


I predicted this would happened 2 chapters ago.
I hope Kishi revealed his identity next week.

If he turns out to be Obito, i will be......................................................


I think he is going to wait until chapter 600 to reveal. We are going to Oro next week probably.


Going where? The past?
Courthead
Profile Joined October 2006
United States246 Posts
August 22 2012 18:10 GMT
#10273
Yeah, Tobi reveal won't be til chapter 600.

Don't know why people would be so mad if it's Obito. I kind of want it to be Obito, even though I spent the last year or two saying that it can't be him. But if it is him, then we get to see how Kishi explains it. There would have to be a good explanation, since Kishi obviously would have been planning this since he first decided that Kakashi should have a sharingan. But if it's not Obito and just some random guy who took Obito's eye, then the explanation won't be as entertaining imo.
Be someone significant.
Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
August 22 2012 18:12 GMT
#10274
On August 23 2012 03:10 Courthead wrote:
Yeah, Tobi reveal won't be til chapter 600.

Don't know why people would be so mad if it's Obito. I kind of want it to be Obito, even though I spent the last year or two saying that it can't be him. But if it is him, then we get to see how Kishi explains it. There would have to be a good explanation, since Kishi obviously would have been planning this since he first decided that Kakashi should have a sharingan. But if it's not Obito and just some random guy who took Obito's eye, then the explanation won't be as entertaining imo.


I do agree. It is easier to make up an random story than one that has been perfectly planned for or atleast matches the story from before.

I doubt he planned this story when he came up with kakashi, maybe he had a very vague outlined but not this.... that was like what 8 years ago?
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 22 2012 18:19 GMT
#10275
On August 23 2012 02:08 Sakray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 01:41 Forikorder wrote:
if only he had some giant inexhaustible amount of Chakra sealed in his belly

maybe some source he recently became BFFs with....


He already was under the influence of Kyubi iirc.


I think you missed the part about inexhaustible. Just becuase Naruto ran out previously doesn't mean the Kyuubi can't give him another infusion. You really think the Kyuubi could deplete all its Chakra like that in one guy? The thing is literally a limitless being of Chakra. It chose how much to give to Naruto, and depending on how much his body can take, it can always provide more.
secret - never again
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
August 22 2012 18:27 GMT
#10276
OK, this is getting unbearable. We need to assemble a TL strike force (of Shinobis?) to kidnap Kishimoto and make him reveal/draw the next few chapters. Who here has the training and/or the funding to pull of a mission like that?
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
August 22 2012 18:29 GMT
#10277
Poll: Who is Tobi?

Kagami Uchiha (part of Team Tobirama during First World War) (12)
 
26%

Obito Uchiha (boy in Kakashi gaiden, Tobi has his right eye) (11)
 
23%

Izuna Uchiha (brother) (10)
 
21%

Hybrid Zetsu/Madara clone (8)
 
17%

Other, not yet introduced (3)
 
6%

Rin (girl in Kakashi gaiden) (2)
 
4%

Tobirama Senju (2nd hokage) (1)
 
2%

47 total votes

Your vote: Who is Tobi?

(Vote): Obito Uchiha (boy in Kakashi gaiden, Tobi has his right eye)
(Vote): Rin (girl in Kakashi gaiden)
(Vote): Kagami Uchiha (part of Team Tobirama during First World War)
(Vote): Izuna Uchiha (brother)
(Vote): Tobirama Senju (2nd hokage)
(Vote): Hybrid Zetsu/Madara clone
(Vote): Other, not yet introduced



Come one come all to the mystery of Tobi, wonder in amazement as Kishi mind fucks everyone with his reveal! Place your bets, place your bets.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
August 22 2012 18:29 GMT
#10278
On August 23 2012 03:12 Dac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 03:10 Courthead wrote:
Yeah, Tobi reveal won't be til chapter 600.

Don't know why people would be so mad if it's Obito. I kind of want it to be Obito, even though I spent the last year or two saying that it can't be him. But if it is him, then we get to see how Kishi explains it. There would have to be a good explanation, since Kishi obviously would have been planning this since he first decided that Kakashi should have a sharingan. But if it's not Obito and just some random guy who took Obito's eye, then the explanation won't be as entertaining imo.


I do agree. It is easier to make up an random story than one that has been perfectly planned for or atleast matches the story from before.

I doubt he planned this story when he came up with kakashi, maybe he had a very vague outlined but not this.... that was like what 8 years ago?


Yea but he probably figured out who Tobi is going to be at latest beginning of shippuden.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 18:32:41
August 22 2012 18:31 GMT
#10279
On August 23 2012 03:29 Zooper31 wrote:
Poll: Who is Tobi?

Kagami Uchiha (part of Team Tobirama during First World War) (12)
 
26%

Obito Uchiha (boy in Kakashi gaiden, Tobi has his right eye) (11)
 
23%

Izuna Uchiha (brother) (10)
 
21%

Hybrid Zetsu/Madara clone (8)
 
17%

Other, not yet introduced (3)
 
6%

Rin (girl in Kakashi gaiden) (2)
 
4%

Tobirama Senju (2nd hokage) (1)
 
2%

47 total votes

Your vote: Who is Tobi?

(Vote): Obito Uchiha (boy in Kakashi gaiden, Tobi has his right eye)
(Vote): Rin (girl in Kakashi gaiden)
(Vote): Kagami Uchiha (part of Team Tobirama during First World War)
(Vote): Izuna Uchiha (brother)
(Vote): Tobirama Senju (2nd hokage)
(Vote): Hybrid Zetsu/Madara clone
(Vote): Other, not yet introduced



Come one come all to the mystery of Tobi, wonder in amazement as Kishi mind fucks everyone with his reveal! Place your bets, place your bets.


Sushi dude!
Or obito.
EDIT: Tobi has Kagami's hair if that means anything.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
HyDrA_solic
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Portugal491 Posts
August 22 2012 18:36 GMT
#10280
Izuna Uchiha.
It's all about the reflections of freedom. Even though he hoped for a better world, with all his strenght, all his will, the most he could do was to make her smile.
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