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ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
August 12 2012 04:30 GMT
#9961
I still find it hard to believe that Obito accomplished what he did in such a short amount of time. I definitely think that Tobi has some parts of Obito, especially his eye.
MrBrunk
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada428 Posts
August 12 2012 04:31 GMT
#9962
On August 12 2012 13:09 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 13:05 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
Moar talking

last chapter people complained about not enough talking

its important plot development if you didnt like this chapter then take a break for a month or two so you can read it in one go since you obviously dont like each individual chapter

Show nested quote +
so like 95% its obito for sure now lol.


all we know is hes been collecting Sharingans since Kakashi was a kid

we know for a fact that Tobi has Obitos other eye but he could ahve stolen it


Ahh true, it seem so easy nowadays in the narutoverse to take out your eye and pop another one in with ease. I just like to jump to conclusions and scream "AHAAA, i knew it " probably like many others. But just analyzing it some more, there just have been to many hints to suggest that Tobi is highly obito.

But this is Naruto and I guess crazy shit happens and it may not end up being Obito :p
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 12 2012 04:35 GMT
#9963
On August 12 2012 13:31 TheBrunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 13:09 Forikorder wrote:
On August 12 2012 13:05 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
Moar talking

last chapter people complained about not enough talking

its important plot development if you didnt like this chapter then take a break for a month or two so you can read it in one go since you obviously dont like each individual chapter

so like 95% its obito for sure now lol.


all we know is hes been collecting Sharingans since Kakashi was a kid

we know for a fact that Tobi has Obitos other eye but he could ahve stolen it


Ahh true, it seem so easy nowadays in the narutoverse to take out your eye and pop another one in with ease. I just like to jump to conclusions and scream "AHAAA, i knew it " probably like many others. But just analyzing it some more, there just have been to many hints to suggest that Tobi is highly obito.

But this is Naruto and I guess crazy shit happens and it may not end up being Obito :p

actually as long as you know enough about Medical Ninjutsu eye transplant wouldnt be that hard

1. use medical ninjutsu to cut off the eyes at the same spot
2. move the eye into the new socket
3. use medical ninjutsu to attach the eye to the nerves

bam easy 3 step eye transplant as long as you good enough at medjutsu to remove and attach the eye its actually extremely simple
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 12 2012 04:39 GMT
#9964
On August 12 2012 13:24 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 13:19 Slaughter wrote:
I think someone just ganked Obitos eye. Eye farming has come up a decent amount so why not Obito's too? Everyone would of known Obito was capable of Sharingan because right before he died he managed to awaken it and Kakashi was running around with it.

judging by Tobis collection i wouldnt be surprised if he was present every time an Uchiha died or manged to access the corpse before there Sharingan was destroyed

with Sharingan he could trick autopsys and those ninja whos job is to destroy the body so the missing sharingan would never be reported

most likely he was trying to find a sharingan like Obitos which could control space time or one with some other ability

im still rpetty annoyed that such an OP ability like Tobis comes from a sharingan though dont see why it couldnt jsut be a ninjutsu he invented

although i do like the symatrey, for the MS one eye fires the Tsukyomi which is a very passive sort of attack and the other fires the Amaterasu which is a very direct sort of attack so it makes sense that one of Obitos eyes transfers the user to a different dimension passively dealing with things and the other transfers a target to a different dimension directly dealing with things

im starting to think Tobi might be Kakashis father, at this point pretty much anyone who could be Tobi is dead so somsone faked there death somewhere along the line

Kakashis dad has a serious grudge against wars and such since it was because of war he made that decision that turned everyone against him

Kakashis dad died and everyone pretty much forgot about him and stopped telling people about him (hence why Obito didnt know of him) plus he didnt die in active duty but by suicide (kinda odd that someone who cared so much for his comrades would suicide) essentially Kakashis dad became a "noone" and was forgotten by everyone

he definently has the motive to want to do waht Tobi is planning, and a good reason to keep his identity hidden and would explain why he was caught by Itachi sneaking around the Uchihas secret places (an uchiha wouldnt have to be sneaking around) he knew hed need a powerful genjutsu to pull of his plan and when you say Genjutsu you think Uchihas

and it would explain why he was there when Obito died, since it was Kakashis first mission as a captain so he wanted to watch him and see what would happen

Kakashi talked to his dad when he died, probably not gonna be him...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 12 2012 04:43 GMT
#9965
On August 12 2012 13:24 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 13:19 Slaughter wrote:
I think someone just ganked Obitos eye. Eye farming has come up a decent amount so why not Obito's too? Everyone would of known Obito was capable of Sharingan because right before he died he managed to awaken it and Kakashi was running around with it.

judging by Tobis collection i wouldnt be surprised if he was present every time an Uchiha died or manged to access the corpse before there Sharingan was destroyed

with Sharingan he could trick autopsys and those ninja whos job is to destroy the body so the missing sharingan would never be reported

most likely he was trying to find a sharingan like Obitos which could control space time or one with some other ability

im still rpetty annoyed that such an OP ability like Tobis comes from a sharingan though dont see why it couldnt jsut be a ninjutsu he invented

although i do like the symatrey, for the MS one eye fires the Tsukyomi which is a very passive sort of attack and the other fires the Amaterasu which is a very direct sort of attack so it makes sense that one of Obitos eyes transfers the user to a different dimension passively dealing with things and the other transfers a target to a different dimension directly dealing with things

im starting to think Tobi might be Kakashis father, at this point pretty much anyone who could be Tobi is dead so somsone faked there death somewhere along the line

Kakashis dad has a serious grudge against wars and such since it was because of war he made that decision that turned everyone against him

Kakashis dad died and everyone pretty much forgot about him and stopped telling people about him (hence why Obito didnt know of him) plus he didnt die in active duty but by suicide (kinda odd that someone who cared so much for his comrades would suicide) essentially Kakashis dad became a "noone" and was forgotten by everyone

he definently has the motive to want to do waht Tobi is planning, and a good reason to keep his identity hidden and would explain why he was caught by Itachi sneaking around the Uchihas secret places (an uchiha wouldnt have to be sneaking around) he knew hed need a powerful genjutsu to pull of his plan and when you say Genjutsu you think Uchihas

and it would explain why he was there when Obito died, since it was Kakashis first mission as a captain so he wanted to watch him and see what would happen


What are you smoking? Kakashi had a heart to heart with he dad when he died during the pain arc. They were both dead. Pain revived Kakashi with the rest of konoha after the battle.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 12 2012 04:53 GMT
#9966
ya but that could ahve jsut been some hallucination or some shit

noone else got a heart to heart when they died it could jsut be left as a plot hole
Galtakar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden374 Posts
August 12 2012 05:27 GMT
#9967
After having gone back and read the fight with Pain again, I simply can't see any chance of Tobi being Obito. Why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading] If people forgot, the fourth hokage fought with Tobi, who was in control of the nine tails. The issue? "Soon after the end of the war, when the Nine-Tails attacked Konohagakure, ". At that time, Tobi, Kakashi and Rin were about 13 years old. Unless Kishimito retconned the shit out of it and forgot what he wrote himself, it simply can't be Obito.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 12 2012 05:45 GMT
#9968
On August 12 2012 14:27 Galtakar wrote:
After having gone back and read the fight with Pain again, I simply can't see any chance of Tobi being Obito. Why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading] If people forgot, the fourth hokage fought with Tobi, who was in control of the nine tails. The issue? "Soon after the end of the war, when the Nine-Tails attacked Konohagakure, ". At that time, Tobi, Kakashi and Rin were about 13 years old. Unless Kishimito retconned the shit out of it and forgot what he wrote himself, it simply can't be Obito.

he already has space TIME jtusu so time travel is an easy way for Tobi to be Obito

maybe something happens in the future thats so terrible Tobi thought the only way to stop it is to go back in time and gather the 10 tails and put people to sleep while he dealt with it but his meddling caused Naruto to get an attachment to all the Biju so he can channel them all together to fight it
Wrecken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 05:48:39
August 12 2012 05:47 GMT
#9969
On August 12 2012 14:27 Galtakar wrote:
After having gone back and read the fight with Pain again, I simply can't see any chance of Tobi being Obito. Why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading] If people forgot, the fourth hokage fought with Tobi, who was in control of the nine tails. The issue? "Soon after the end of the war, when the Nine-Tails attacked Konohagakure, ". At that time, Tobi, Kakashi and Rin were about 13 years old. Unless Kishimito retconned the shit out of it and forgot what he wrote himself, it simply can't be Obito.

There's a theory that time is slower in his dimmension so he may of spent a long time in there. Also, Kakashi looked the size of a man during that attack, so it's not farfetched to think it is Obito.

Also, classic Kishi here:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]
Wrecken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States213 Posts
August 12 2012 05:50 GMT
#9970
On August 12 2012 14:45 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 14:27 Galtakar wrote:
After having gone back and read the fight with Pain again, I simply can't see any chance of Tobi being Obito. Why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading] If people forgot, the fourth hokage fought with Tobi, who was in control of the nine tails. The issue? "Soon after the end of the war, when the Nine-Tails attacked Konohagakure, ". At that time, Tobi, Kakashi and Rin were about 13 years old. Unless Kishimito retconned the shit out of it and forgot what he wrote himself, it simply can't be Obito.

he already has space TIME jtusu so time travel is an easy way for Tobi to be Obito

maybe something happens in the future thats so terrible Tobi thought the only way to stop it is to go back in time and gather the 10 tails and put people to sleep while he dealt with it but his meddling caused Naruto to get an attachment to all the Biju so he can channel them all together to fight it

S/T doesn't actually mean one can warp time itself. If that was the case then every shinobi could travel in time, since every summoning jutsu is a S/T jutsu variant.
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
August 12 2012 05:56 GMT
#9971
On August 12 2012 14:45 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 14:27 Galtakar wrote:
After having gone back and read the fight with Pain again, I simply can't see any chance of Tobi being Obito. Why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading] If people forgot, the fourth hokage fought with Tobi, who was in control of the nine tails. The issue? "Soon after the end of the war, when the Nine-Tails attacked Konohagakure, ". At that time, Tobi, Kakashi and Rin were about 13 years old. Unless Kishimito retconned the shit out of it and forgot what he wrote himself, it simply can't be Obito.

he already has space TIME jtusu so time travel is an easy way for Tobi to be Obito

maybe something happens in the future thats so terrible Tobi thought the only way to stop it is to go back in time and gather the 10 tails and put people to sleep while he dealt with it but his meddling caused Naruto to get an attachment to all the Biju so he can channel them all together to fight it


We have yet to see anyone Travel through time and I hope that they don't use that as a tactic. Not only would it be a bad idea because of the power that time travel inherently has but every show I have ever seen that uses time travel as a story telling device (I'm looking at you Heroes) has failed miserably.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
August 12 2012 06:02 GMT
#9972
I'll be thoroughly disappointed in Kishi if Tobi = Obito. That was the first theory that everyone came up with for his true identity when Tobi made his appearance. All this mystery around the characters identity and he is finally revealed to be the person that everyone thought he was years ago? Come on now.
Galtakar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden374 Posts
August 12 2012 06:05 GMT
#9973
On August 12 2012 14:45 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 14:27 Galtakar wrote:
After having gone back and read the fight with Pain again, I simply can't see any chance of Tobi being Obito. Why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading] If people forgot, the fourth hokage fought with Tobi, who was in control of the nine tails. The issue? "Soon after the end of the war, when the Nine-Tails attacked Konohagakure, ". At that time, Tobi, Kakashi and Rin were about 13 years old. Unless Kishimito retconned the shit out of it and forgot what he wrote himself, it simply can't be Obito.

he already has space TIME jtusu so time travel is an easy way for Tobi to be Obito

maybe something happens in the future thats so terrible Tobi thought the only way to stop it is to go back in time and gather the 10 tails and put people to sleep while he dealt with it but his meddling caused Naruto to get an attachment to all the Biju so he can channel them all together to fight it

Not once has there been a time travel done by ANYONE in the series. Also: In what kind of way could Obito have gotten that powerful in such a short time? At most, there is a 2-3 year difference between when Obito dies and when the Nine-tails attacks. It makes absolutely 0 sense that Obito would be able to obtain such powers in such a short amount of time. Even if it was a 5 year difference and he is 18.

Like I said: Unless he retconned the living hell out of it, Obito makes 0 sense.

There's a theory that time is slower in his dimmension so he may of spent a long time in there. Also, Kakashi looked the size of a man during that attack, so it's not farfetched to think it is Obito.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Doesn't look like an adult to me.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 06:13:20
August 12 2012 06:08 GMT
#9974
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c597/2.html

have not seen the link for the new chapter yet

ultra friends mode engage time
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saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
August 12 2012 06:18 GMT
#9975
something doesn't add up here.

on the basis that they do have the same eyes belong to obito, kakashi was only able to use kamui once unlocking mangekyou and furthermore he's only capable of using kamui to destroy or to make objects disappear but not reappear.

while as far as we've seen, tobi hasn't unlocked mangekyou in that eye, but is able to use it and to a greater degree of manipulation.
judochopaction
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States533 Posts
August 12 2012 06:21 GMT
#9976
this kamui thing is very very very lame
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 06:26:07
August 12 2012 06:25 GMT
#9977
I still think he got only the eye somehow or did the orochimaru and got himself a new body from obito.
And then he just walked the boulder off.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
August 12 2012 06:47 GMT
#9978
BLINK NARUTO BLINK
High Risk Low Reward
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 12 2012 07:21 GMT
#9979
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/597

New chapter is out

+ Show Spoiler +
FUCKING OBITO THEORIES, IT WILL EVNETUALLY BECOME REALITY EVEN WITH THIS NONSENSE OF ENDLESS EYE SWAPPING
In the woods, there lurks..
Primal666
Profile Joined November 2010
Slovenia418 Posts
August 12 2012 07:25 GMT
#9980
On August 12 2012 14:47 Wrecken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 14:27 Galtakar wrote:
After having gone back and read the fight with Pain again, I simply can't see any chance of Tobi being Obito. Why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading] If people forgot, the fourth hokage fought with Tobi, who was in control of the nine tails. The issue? "Soon after the end of the war, when the Nine-Tails attacked Konohagakure, ". At that time, Tobi, Kakashi and Rin were about 13 years old. Unless Kishimito retconned the shit out of it and forgot what he wrote himself, it simply can't be Obito.

There's a theory that time is slower in his dimmension so he may of spent a long time in there. Also, Kakashi looked the size of a man during that attack, so it's not farfetched to think it is Obito.

Also, classic Kishi here:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]

omg, I just noticed that tobi lost his hair o.0
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