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On March 08 2012 10:35 NekoFlandre wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 10:24 Forikorder wrote:
people overvalue the amaterasu becuase it looks so flashy but remember this
1) it takes alot out of the caster, itachi was running on empty by only using one Tsukyomi and one Amaterasu and his zetsu clone couldnt even cast the Amaterasu
2) its not undodgeable its not the sort of spell that you pick a target and that place instantly burns its like Kakashis void thing it takes concentration and you cant quickly change target
3) its easily blockable for instance if Madara tried to cast the amaterasu gaara would be able to block it with minimal amount of sand
as for the situation im pretty sure how its going to go down, Itachi is going to take some time to try to figure out what to do at this point theres going to be alot of chatting and Sasuke will learn that kabuto is the only one who can "kill" his brother (as in send him back to the world of the dead) and Itachi will figure out a course of action to force him to cancel the Jutsu, Sasuke will obviously figure this out and an interesting 3 way battle will start, Kabuto and whatever Edo Tenseis he has lying around will try to either A) undo the genjutsu on Itachi or B) seal him somehow and will try to capture Sasuke too (most likely Kabuto has some ninja in the wing with a sealing technique of some sort) Sasuke will be trying to killKabuto so his brother wont have to die and Itachi will be trying to capture Kabuto in a genjutsu and prevent sasuke from killing him, meanwhile sasuke will also try to prevent Itachi from being caught (or maybe might try to get him sealed so he can finish off Kabuto then release him) Your theory on how the fight is going to go sounds good; although. They can both use Tsukyomi..... Wonder who, well; is lying around in waiting truthfully; because we never hear about anyone else of the past Kage. I am sure that Kabuto would have some of them if not the firsts.....imagine; if he raised the first from the dead as well.....would be an interesting situation.
its hard to say if Sasuke can use the Tsukyomi he was shown VS Danzo to be terible at Genjutsu and could only use minor Genjutu on him and when they fought before Sasuke broke Itachis Tsukyomi and now he has better eyes
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On March 09 2012 01:56 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 10:35 NekoFlandre wrote:On March 08 2012 10:24 Forikorder wrote:
people overvalue the amaterasu becuase it looks so flashy but remember this
1) it takes alot out of the caster, itachi was running on empty by only using one Tsukyomi and one Amaterasu and his zetsu clone couldnt even cast the Amaterasu
2) its not undodgeable its not the sort of spell that you pick a target and that place instantly burns its like Kakashis void thing it takes concentration and you cant quickly change target
3) its easily blockable for instance if Madara tried to cast the amaterasu gaara would be able to block it with minimal amount of sand
as for the situation im pretty sure how its going to go down, Itachi is going to take some time to try to figure out what to do at this point theres going to be alot of chatting and Sasuke will learn that kabuto is the only one who can "kill" his brother (as in send him back to the world of the dead) and Itachi will figure out a course of action to force him to cancel the Jutsu, Sasuke will obviously figure this out and an interesting 3 way battle will start, Kabuto and whatever Edo Tenseis he has lying around will try to either A) undo the genjutsu on Itachi or B) seal him somehow and will try to capture Sasuke too (most likely Kabuto has some ninja in the wing with a sealing technique of some sort) Sasuke will be trying to killKabuto so his brother wont have to die and Itachi will be trying to capture Kabuto in a genjutsu and prevent sasuke from killing him, meanwhile sasuke will also try to prevent Itachi from being caught (or maybe might try to get him sealed so he can finish off Kabuto then release him) Your theory on how the fight is going to go sounds good; although. They can both use Tsukyomi..... Wonder who, well; is lying around in waiting truthfully; because we never hear about anyone else of the past Kage. I am sure that Kabuto would have some of them if not the firsts.....imagine; if he raised the first from the dead as well.....would be an interesting situation. its hard to say if Sasuke can use the Tsukyomi he was shown VS Danzo to be terible at Genjutsu and could only use minor Genjutu on him and when they fought before Sasuke broke Itachis Tsukyomi and now he has better eyes
genjutsu is dependent on will and intent. Sasuke's is garbage because he's mentally unstable as all hell.
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On March 09 2012 01:56 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 10:35 NekoFlandre wrote:On March 08 2012 10:24 Forikorder wrote:
people overvalue the amaterasu becuase it looks so flashy but remember this
1) it takes alot out of the caster, itachi was running on empty by only using one Tsukyomi and one Amaterasu and his zetsu clone couldnt even cast the Amaterasu
2) its not undodgeable its not the sort of spell that you pick a target and that place instantly burns its like Kakashis void thing it takes concentration and you cant quickly change target
3) its easily blockable for instance if Madara tried to cast the amaterasu gaara would be able to block it with minimal amount of sand
as for the situation im pretty sure how its going to go down, Itachi is going to take some time to try to figure out what to do at this point theres going to be alot of chatting and Sasuke will learn that kabuto is the only one who can "kill" his brother (as in send him back to the world of the dead) and Itachi will figure out a course of action to force him to cancel the Jutsu, Sasuke will obviously figure this out and an interesting 3 way battle will start, Kabuto and whatever Edo Tenseis he has lying around will try to either A) undo the genjutsu on Itachi or B) seal him somehow and will try to capture Sasuke too (most likely Kabuto has some ninja in the wing with a sealing technique of some sort) Sasuke will be trying to killKabuto so his brother wont have to die and Itachi will be trying to capture Kabuto in a genjutsu and prevent sasuke from killing him, meanwhile sasuke will also try to prevent Itachi from being caught (or maybe might try to get him sealed so he can finish off Kabuto then release him) Your theory on how the fight is going to go sounds good; although. They can both use Tsukyomi..... Wonder who, well; is lying around in waiting truthfully; because we never hear about anyone else of the past Kage. I am sure that Kabuto would have some of them if not the firsts.....imagine; if he raised the first from the dead as well.....would be an interesting situation. its hard to say if Sasuke can use the Tsukyomi he was shown VS Danzo to be terible at Genjutsu and could only use minor Genjutu on him and when they fought before Sasuke broke Itachis Tsukyomi and now he has better eyes
I wouldn't say hes terrible at genjutsu. Remember that he beat Danzo because he used genjutsu on Danzo. Danzo thought he still had one eye left when he used izanagi but he was under Sasuke's genjutsu and used them all up already. Also from what I remember Sasuke can use tsukyomi in that he used it on Bee when they were fighting but Bee had the Eight Tails to get him out of it.
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I had stopped reading these for quite a while. Unreal how fast I caught up (read 12 chapters in a row in less than an hour)...Wanted to see more of Naruto vs...that anonymous masked guy, not the comeback of Sasugay...his 2 moron friends he tried to kill yet still want to help him, or that emo chick.
Time to wait another couple months to let it build up again, one chapter at a time simply wont do.
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On March 09 2012 05:51 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 01:56 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 10:35 NekoFlandre wrote:On March 08 2012 10:24 Forikorder wrote:
people overvalue the amaterasu becuase it looks so flashy but remember this
1) it takes alot out of the caster, itachi was running on empty by only using one Tsukyomi and one Amaterasu and his zetsu clone couldnt even cast the Amaterasu
2) its not undodgeable its not the sort of spell that you pick a target and that place instantly burns its like Kakashis void thing it takes concentration and you cant quickly change target
3) its easily blockable for instance if Madara tried to cast the amaterasu gaara would be able to block it with minimal amount of sand
as for the situation im pretty sure how its going to go down, Itachi is going to take some time to try to figure out what to do at this point theres going to be alot of chatting and Sasuke will learn that kabuto is the only one who can "kill" his brother (as in send him back to the world of the dead) and Itachi will figure out a course of action to force him to cancel the Jutsu, Sasuke will obviously figure this out and an interesting 3 way battle will start, Kabuto and whatever Edo Tenseis he has lying around will try to either A) undo the genjutsu on Itachi or B) seal him somehow and will try to capture Sasuke too (most likely Kabuto has some ninja in the wing with a sealing technique of some sort) Sasuke will be trying to killKabuto so his brother wont have to die and Itachi will be trying to capture Kabuto in a genjutsu and prevent sasuke from killing him, meanwhile sasuke will also try to prevent Itachi from being caught (or maybe might try to get him sealed so he can finish off Kabuto then release him) no he only got Bee in a smal time Genjutsu if we consider Itachi as someone whos a pro at genjutsu in which he could make one second feel like hours and then look at Sasuke whos the best he could pull off was making an eye look open the difference between them is obvious Your theory on how the fight is going to go sounds good; although. They can both use Tsukyomi..... Wonder who, well; is lying around in waiting truthfully; because we never hear about anyone else of the past Kage. I am sure that Kabuto would have some of them if not the firsts.....imagine; if he raised the first from the dead as well.....would be an interesting situation. its hard to say if Sasuke can use the Tsukyomi he was shown VS Danzo to be terible at Genjutsu and could only use minor Genjutu on him and when they fought before Sasuke broke Itachis Tsukyomi and now he has better eyes I wouldn't say hes terrible at genjutsu. Remember that he beat Danzo because he used genjutsu on Danzo. Danzo thought he still had one eye left when he used izanagi but he was under Sasuke's genjutsu and used them all up already. Also from what I remember Sasuke can use tsukyomi in that he used it on Bee when they were fighting but Bee had the Eight Tails to get him out of it.
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he is not amazing at genjutsu, if he was amazing he would have took Danjo out with his first Genjutsu it if was Itachit ats wwhat would ahve happened
hes jsut smart and a good fighter and know how to use his limited genjutsu in a smart way
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Remember during the Sasuke/Itachi fight, Itachi was planning to let Sasuke kill him and was already near death due to the disease he had. So saying Sasuke broke his technique or did whatever against Itachi doesn't mean shit.
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On March 09 2012 07:17 NotSorry wrote:
Remember during the Sasuke/Itachi fight, Itachi was planning to let Sasuke kill him and was already near death due to the disease he had. So saying Sasuke broke his technique or did whatever against Itachi doesn't mean shit.
It's not like Itachi wasn't trying. He could have let the fight end at anytime if that were true. He died because his illness finally killed him. If the only reason Sasuke won is because Itachi let him, then explain the purpose of that whole fight.
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On March 09 2012 07:36 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 07:17 NotSorry wrote:
Remember during the Sasuke/Itachi fight, Itachi was planning to let Sasuke kill him and was already near death due to the disease he had. So saying Sasuke broke his technique or did whatever against Itachi doesn't mean shit. It's not like Itachi wasn't trying. He could have let the fight end at anytime if that were true. He died because his illness finally killed him. If the only reason Sasuke won is because Itachi let him, then explain the purpose of that whole fight.
Because letting Sasuke kill him easily would've been obvious to Sasuke, and he didn't want Sasuke to know his ultimate plan: "die for his crimes, and let sasuke have the joy of defeating the killer of his clean, and returning home a hero of Konoha for killing off the rogue ninja". if at any point sasuke noticed Itachi holding back, he would've suspected something wrong and probably tried to stop the fight and find out what really happened.
ALSO, remember, at that point, sasuke still had the influence of Orochimaru implanted in him. Itachi's primary purpose of the fight, was to force sasuke to the point of exhaustion, so that he'd lose his control over Orochimaru in his subconscience, and force Orochimaru out, so that he can be sealed by Susano'o's sealing sword, to end his threat to the world (and konoha) forever, as well as free his brother from Orochimaru's grasp.
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On March 09 2012 07:03 Forikorder wrote:
he is not amazing at genjutsu, if he was amazing he would have took Danjo out with his first Genjutsu it if was Itachit ats wwhat would ahve happened
hes jsut smart and a good fighter and know how to use his limited genjutsu in a smart way
If someone is not amazing at something then it does not automatically mean they're terrible at it. Read my post again. I never said he was amazing. I was just trying to prove that he wasn't terrible at it. . He has to be pretty decent at it that it tricked Danzo and again realize that I didn't say he was amazing at it. A good example of someone who has limited genjutsu is Naruto because you never see him use it in battle not someone who just defeated a renowned shinobi with it. My whole point is that while Sasuke's genjutsu might not be on the level as Itachi he has shown to be able to use it on a level that's closer to proficient than what I would call limited.
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Shit just got real. Why would Itachi and Sasuke team-up vs Kabuto? We're gonna see some kabuchimaru jutsus next chapter. giddy me!
edit: yeah, im talking about e new chapter 578
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Fuck I thought the new chapter was released. Damnit Rorix.
EDIT: IS THE NEW CHAPTER OUT?!
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I hate you guys so much right now...
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Jpreview is out, so yes ch578 is technicaly out (mangastream.com).
the actual translated manga should be out in a couple of minites
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On March 14 2012 19:29 Rorix wrote:
Jpreview is out, so yes ch578 is technicaly out (mangastream.com).
the actual translated manga should be out in a couple of minites
I cant find the translations of either Naruto, Bleach or One Piece on mangastream !
like wtf is this man.. Ive always read manga there and now I just cant find it.. -.-
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On March 14 2012 19:34 Sinedd wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 19:29 Rorix wrote:
Jpreview is out, so yes ch578 is technicaly out (mangastream.com).
the actual translated manga should be out in a couple of minites I cant find the translations of either Naruto, Bleach or One Piece on mangastream ! like wtf is this man.. Ive always read manga there and now I just cant find it.. -.-
Always? they were asked to stop translating mangas like 1 month ago thats why they dont do full translations. J-preview is basically spoilers of all mangas they are not able to translate anymoe ( Naruto, One piece, HxH, Toriko, Reborn, Bleach) http://mangastream.com/read/jpreview/39497683/1
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What's the site it usually is released first on please guys?>
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On March 14 2012 19:52 Fulla wrote:
What's the site it usually is released first on please guys?>
I think is usually mangareader.net
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On March 09 2012 07:36 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 07:17 NotSorry wrote:
Remember during the Sasuke/Itachi fight, Itachi was planning to let Sasuke kill him and was already near death due to the disease he had. So saying Sasuke broke his technique or did whatever against Itachi doesn't mean shit. It's not like Itachi wasn't trying. He could have let the fight end at anytime if that were true. He died because his illness finally killed him. If the only reason Sasuke won is because Itachi let him, then explain the purpose of that whole fight.
Remember the part about Sasuke having to go through the mental torture to get his Mangekyo?
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