On June 25 2012 02:48 ShadoBiO,o wrote: The Wire, huh? Will look into it. I need something before Breaking Bad starts
If you like Breaking Bad and their excellent story arc and character progression, The Wire is most definitely recommended. Like others have said, The Wire is in a league of their own. Slower paced than Breaking Bad, yes, but it pays of big time in terms of depth for both characters and story.
I also want to have fun comparing these 2 shows. While I think both are absolute amazing shows, I think you're right. Breaking Bad is a bit faster paced. However, The Wire was so masterful in how everything developed slowly, but resolved in a powerful instant.
One thing that seperates the two shows is how the character's play off each other. Breaking bad was mostly business and planning, the conversation revolved around the plot. In The Wire, it was much more idle. As in, you could go through a lot of scenes just seeing how people lived an what motivates them before seeing something actually happen. I pretty much loved watching the gangsters talk casually, especially snoop. I don't think Breaking Bad ever hit that note quite as well. There is one bad episode where it's just walter and jessie trying to catch a fly the episode, and it's so painfully boring. It was just too slow paced for breaking bad.
just finished watching this show for the first time and now i don't think i'm even excited for the next breaking bad episode. are there any other shows that come close to this one in quality and subject matter?
Maybe Oz. And I'm just saying that because everything is so far off from The Wire that might be the closest. The Sopranos is usually the show compared with The Wire though.
Quit watching this Show after the first season dragged out so much...I want to like this show so bad since everyone only has Good things to say about this but i can't
Breaking bad also Dragged in it's first Season but It got Very fucking absolutely smashing perfectly paced as it moved into later seasons...does this do the Same?
On July 30 2012 01:19 thrawn2112 wrote: just finished watching this show for the first time and now i don't think i'm even excited for the next breaking bad episode. are there any other shows that come close to this one in quality and subject matter?
The Wire leaves everyone like that for a few months.
After a while you accept that, sure, you will never again experience the brilliance that is The Wire, but you should at least attempt to make your existence on this plane somewhat tolerable, numbing the pain from the hole in your soul with cheap entertainment.
*Other than that, Oz is probably a good show, pretty addictive, also HBO.
On July 30 2012 01:30 pyro19 wrote: Quit watching this Show after the first season dragged out so much...I want to like this show so bad since everyone only has Good things to say about this but i can't
Breaking bad also Dragged in it's first Season but It got Very fucking absolutely smashing perfectly paced as it moved into later seasons...does this do the Same?
I don't understand what you mean by dragged because the first season was fucking amazing and I didn't feel that at all. The first couple of episodes of season 2 were the only slow ones for me.
On July 30 2012 01:19 thrawn2112 wrote: just finished watching this show for the first time and now i don't think i'm even excited for the next breaking bad episode. are there any other shows that come close to this one in quality and subject matter?
watch game of thrones. might not be the same genre but fucken great actors. cant find a bad one. pretty epic too. hbo
This show fell short of my high expectations after all the hype I had been subjected to in every single discussion having anything to do with any television show. Its fans take even the slightest excuse to start talking about this show however off topic it may be.
Still, it's a great show that kept me entertained for the span of all five seasons. In top 10 tv-shows that I've seen.
On July 30 2012 01:19 thrawn2112 wrote: just finished watching this show for the first time and now i don't think i'm even excited for the next breaking bad episode. are there any other shows that come close to this one in quality and subject matter?
The Sopranos comes somewhat close to The Wire in awesomeness, its similar in many ways but it focuses almost entirely on the criminals, whereas The Wire splits between the criminals and the fuzz.
On July 30 2012 01:30 pyro19 wrote: Quit watching this Show after the first season dragged out so much...I want to like this show so bad since everyone only has Good things to say about this but i can't
Breaking bad also Dragged in it's first Season but It got Very fucking absolutely smashing perfectly paced as it moved into later seasons...does this do the Same?
I'm afraid that's a bad sign. I always recommend this show with a warning that if you don't like it by the end of the first season, it's very unlikely you'll like the rest of the series.
You'll encounter a variety of different characters and other institutions, sure, but the police are always at the core of the show throughout. The pacing is always the same as well (aside from the final season), it's a show that takes its time but blows you away in the end.
I would not say it's like Breaking Bad at all in it's pacing. Breaking Bad has this feeling throughout as if it's gradually building towards a total shitstorm of a climax when Walter's bubble finally pops. As if the bar is being raised each season.
The Wire is not that show. It's more of: each season all of the institutions introduced within the show have their objective. That objective reaches its conclusion in the finale. Then there's a montage to reflect on everything and the credits roll, and you're left with a feeling of: "...and the world keeps on turning". You know, as if that entire season didn't make much of a dent in anything. It was just another case, or it was just another election, or just another school year, and in the future another will take its place. It feels like real life.
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Also that Wire Musical is the funniest shit I've seen all month xD.
lol @ the fat Stringer Bell "I hate 40 degree days" and Snoop in a dress wtf
On July 30 2012 01:19 thrawn2112 wrote: just finished watching this show for the first time and now i don't think i'm even excited for the next breaking bad episode. are there any other shows that come close to this one in quality and subject matter?
Treme is done by the same guy, it's quite good as well and much in the same style, though not a crime show as such. The shield is kind of in the same genre and is quite decent.
Having just watched the whole thing, I can safely say that while it may not be the "best" TV show ever (it's certainly really, really good), it's by far the most important TV show ever.
If you go into it expecting a straight up crime drama, you're not going to get one, especially after seasons 1 and 2. The point of the show is 100% social commentary.
On July 30 2012 01:30 pyro19 wrote: Quit watching this Show after the first season dragged out so much...I want to like this show so bad since everyone only has Good things to say about this but i can't
Breaking bad also Dragged in it's first Season but It got Very fucking absolutely smashing perfectly paced as it moved into later seasons...does this do the Same?
I had the same experience, sort of. The first half of Season 1 was really slow and I was ready to give up on the show. But the slow pace is pretty much necessary for the show as a whole.
Just don't expect this to be a traditional crime drama. If that's what you're looking for, watch the Shield, which is a great show in its own right.
The Wire is sad, depressing, and slow. It's not a police show with a message tacked on, it's a message with a police show tacked on. And it's really, really good.
On July 30 2012 01:30 pyro19 wrote: Quit watching this Show after the first season dragged out so much...I want to like this show so bad since everyone only has Good things to say about this but i can't
Breaking bad also Dragged in it's first Season but It got Very fucking absolutely smashing perfectly paced as it moved into later seasons...does this do the Same?
I had the same experience, sort of. The first half of Season 1 was really slow and I was ready to give up on the show. But the slow pace is pretty much necessary for the show as a whole.
Just don't expect this to be a traditional crime drama. If that's what you're looking for, watch the Shield, which is a great show in its own right.
The Wire is sad, depressing, and slow. It's not a police show with a message tacked on, it's a message with a police show tacked on. And it's really, really good.
Great way of putting it.
The show branches further and further into urban american societal ills as it goes on.
On August 02 2012 01:41 yeint wrote: Having just watched the whole thing, I can safely say that while it may not be the "best" TV show ever (it's certainly really, really good), it's by far the most important TV show ever.
If you go into it expecting a straight up crime drama, you're not going to get one, especially after seasons 1 and 2. The point of the show is 100% social commentary.
Season 4 was absolutely heartbreaking.
I think calling it a 100% social commentary is too simplistic.
It weaves the social commentary into the story, it doesn't just spew out the social commentary. The story of Avon and Stringer Bell is absolutely a crime drama, and a very moving one at that.
The moment when they stand on the rooftop, looking out over the city.
They talk, and you can feel their history, in some way you can see why these two became friends and ended up together. On the other hand, Avon talks about the good old day, the gangster days. Stringer talks about how they can own the city, he talks about the future, about going legit, about money.
You see why they were friends and why they can't be friend any longer. It wasn't forced by the plot. You understand these characters as if they are real people. On some level you understand that they couldn't possibly remain friends, partly for the same reason why they made such a good team to begin with.
That scene has everything and is one of the best in the series imo.
You see their friendship. You see why they can't remain friends. You know that each has betrayed the other.