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No, this is not a joke/trolling thread. We don't need more filler posts asking if it is.

Remember to spoiler season 6 content, and clearly label your spoilers.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
March 04 2012 15:48 GMT
#9941
On March 05 2012 00:37 Spaackle wrote:
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What I feel this episode really needed was some sort of montage showing Fluttershy getting more training from Iron Will in the middle, after Fluttershy goes to his seminar and before she becomes new Fluttershy. People really don't change that rapidly, and later Iron Will kind of implies that he gave her lessons later when he says taking a long time to pay him. I think if there were just a 30 second or so bit in between that showed Fluttershy practicing her "assertiveness" in a couple of different ways, it would've made the whole episode flow a bit better. Other that that, the episode was pretty good. Watching Fluttershy be a jerk made me sad, though.


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Either a montage or just a scene where Fluttershy gets wronged, and it's "the last straw" and they show her snapping under the pressure. Just have some eye-twitch, slow angled zoom in and red hue on the screen, followed up by FS ripping into the wrongdoer and the rest is entirely believable and in line with what the show has done in the past.

Still, the episode had other problems, namely the pacing. Below average episode in my book.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Airfan
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany73 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 15:55:16
March 04 2012 15:53 GMT
#9942
On March 05 2012 00:30 Tuthur wrote:
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On March 05 2012 00:28 Airfan wrote:
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I'm kinda irritated why a minotaur (= cow) would have goat assistants that make goat sounds.


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I thought the goats were hilarious, especially when they ate everything including Pinkie's tail


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Sure, they were. But it seems somewhat weird to me that donkeys, goats, gryphons, cows and whatnot are common in Equestria, despite the name implying that it's the land of horses (or ponies in this case), while the first time they saw a zebra, all of them freaked out.


On second thought, I'd like to learn more about the Everfree Forest.
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
March 04 2012 16:25 GMT
#9943
On March 05 2012 00:53 Airfan wrote:
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On March 05 2012 00:30 Tuthur wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:28 Airfan wrote:
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I'm kinda irritated why a minotaur (= cow) would have goat assistants that make goat sounds.


+ Show Spoiler +
I thought the goats were hilarious, especially when they ate everything including Pinkie's tail


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Sure, they were. But it seems somewhat weird to me that donkeys, goats, gryphons, cows and whatnot are common in Equestria, despite the name implying that it's the land of horses (or ponies in this case), while the first time they saw a zebra, all of them freaked out.


On second thought, I'd like to learn more about the Everfree Forest.

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They aren't common. We've seen three donkeys, two goats, one gryphon, one cow, and one zebra. In contrast, there have been countless ponies.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 04 2012 17:16 GMT
#9944
On March 05 2012 01:25 Antylamon wrote:
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On March 05 2012 00:53 Airfan wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:30 Tuthur wrote:
On March 05 2012 00:28 Airfan wrote:
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I'm kinda irritated why a minotaur (= cow) would have goat assistants that make goat sounds.


+ Show Spoiler +
I thought the goats were hilarious, especially when they ate everything including Pinkie's tail


+ Show Spoiler +
Sure, they were. But it seems somewhat weird to me that donkeys, goats, gryphons, cows and whatnot are common in Equestria, despite the name implying that it's the land of horses (or ponies in this case), while the first time they saw a zebra, all of them freaked out.


On second thought, I'd like to learn more about the Everfree Forest.

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They aren't common. We've seen three donkeys, two goats, one gryphon, one cow, and one zebra. In contrast, there have been countless ponies.


We've seen a heard of cattle. I think it's just more likely that each species lives in communities mostly made up of that species. (the cows live with all the other cows, the buffalo live with all the other buffalo). We still never did establish whether equestria is the planet or a country allowing for other properly named countries for the other animals
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PencilZerg
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark76 Posts
March 04 2012 17:57 GMT
#9945
On March 05 2012 00:19 hacklebeast wrote:
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On March 04 2012 22:37 PencilZerg wrote:
The newest episode features a new voice from BonBon. That's what... her fourth?


fifth
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call of the cutie
green isn't your color
lesson zero
sscs 6000
this one


Haha it's that many already? My favourite has to be the one in lesson zero ^^
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 04 2012 17:58 GMT
#9946
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121955/episodes?season=16

IMDB's certainly a more credible source than the shopped screenshot...
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
March 04 2012 18:24 GMT
#9947
Just wanted to say that I liked the new episode very much.
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#9948
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It never ceases to amaze me just how fucking good the animators are at what they do.

[image loading]

Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
DMII
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany92 Posts
March 04 2012 18:54 GMT
#9949
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There are only a few things I didn't like with this episode.
First, Angel was acting out of character. In the other episodes, he is always helpful to Fluttershy and gives her a push in the right direction when she needs it. While the scenes in this episodes are kind of funny, I find it hard to believe, that he would be that much of a dick like he is in this episode. While both the slap and throwing her out of the house are funny, they imo are too much together. One of them would have been enough. The basic idea of using their relationship as introduction to Fluttershys problem was good, but the execution went way over the top. However, he is suddenly back in character at the end, when he is the only animal that sticks with her.

Second, Iron Will is hardly questioning why Fluttershy doesn't want to pay. He could at least ask her why she was not satisfied. The only thing he has at the end is a reason to question his approach and a new phrase, which would also fit into his old concept. Since he is the main representative of a wrong way of being assertive, a change in his personality would definately help getting the message across, yet there is no real change to him.

Third, Fluttershy realizes the bad aspects of her new personality way too fast. There is only one scene, where she gets to see the bad side of her new self. This needed more time to build up in a realistic way.

Actually I think some scenes were cut out because of time issues, because at one point I looked at the time and it was only about one or two minutes minutes left, with the whole confrontation between Fluttershy and Iron Will still coming, also the reunion with Pinkie and Rarity and of course the letter and the credits. That's not enough time to do all that properly if you ask me.

Still a nearly excellent episode in my book, it just needed more time to display the change from nasty Fluttershy back to nice Fluttershy

So I give it a 9/10

Also, to those who are worrying about the episodes influence on Fluttershy's behavior in future episodes:
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Fluttershy will still be the kind, shy and caring character we know, however, when her needs collide with those of other ponies, she won't take it anymore, if they want to exploit her behavior for their personal gain. That's what was the problem depicted at the beginning and on the market.
All is fair in love and war. Starcraft is both.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 19:40:46
March 04 2012 19:27 GMT
#9950
My main problem
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with this episode is the portrayal of so many characters and background ponies who have almost always been portrayed as good being completely reworked to be selfish and bad in this completely new Ponyville that appears out of nowhere. Sure we've always had our mini-villain here and there, but the general population was always portrayed as good. In this episode it portrays them as greedy, selfish, inconsiderate, etc etc... turns out Ponyville isn't such a good place after all (in this episode at least). Almost every background character is a Diamond Tiara.

Rather than a plot being adapted to fit the environment of Equestria that we've seen and loved for the past 40 or so episodes, the entire environment is abruptly changed to match the plot of this episode.

In this foreign environment, it's not exactly surprising that Fluttershy could have misconstrued the message of "stand up for yourself" as "stand up for yourself because most people in the world are going to be bad people who will try to take advantage of you". It's just a poor way to execute the message the episode was supposed to give.

The only other episode with a vaguely similar environment is 21, but really that's not portraying society as inherently egoist, it's just two "good" societies who have a disagreement.
GypsyBeast
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada630 Posts
March 04 2012 19:31 GMT
#9951
On March 05 2012 02:58 Daralii wrote:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121955/episodes?season=16

IMDB's certainly a more credible source than the shopped screenshot...

oh snap, I wonder how they will portray bronies if this turns out to be legit
Ya? Well ill BM you harder! Another win in 10 seconds flat! -Rainbow Dash playing SC2.
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
March 04 2012 19:48 GMT
#9952
On March 05 2012 04:31 GypsyBeast wrote:
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On March 05 2012 02:58 Daralii wrote:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121955/episodes?season=16

IMDB's certainly a more credible source than the shopped screenshot...

oh snap, I wonder how they will portray bronies if this turns out to be legit



I find it hard to believe they would actually title an episode like that. Probably just a prank.
SwordM13X24
Profile Joined July 2010
United States190 Posts
March 04 2012 19:55 GMT
#9953
On March 05 2012 03:53 Daralii wrote:
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It never ceases to amaze me just how fucking good the animators are at what they do.

[image loading]



I hope this scene gets broken down to how it's done!
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 20:05:46
March 04 2012 20:04 GMT
#9954
On March 05 2012 00:28 Airfan wrote:
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I'm kinda irritated why a minotaur (= cow) would have goat assistants that make goat sounds.

I think the association is mythological here.

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Gryphons, Pegasi, Minotaurs and Goats(Satyrs?) are all from greek/european mythology.
Zebras are african.
Every european in the last 300 years or so would have heard at one point or another of those fictional european creatures. This isn´t necessarily true for creatures from other continents like africa(see platypus from australia, many thought it was a hoax).


The episode itself:
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I really liked Iron Will.
Very much disliked Angel being such an ass/out of character. Didn´t like the market scene either where everyone was acting like an ass and cutting in line. Especially the cherry vendor. If he really was in this for the profit, he would have tried to sell the cherry to FS instead of letting some random bypasser buy it for 2 bits. That gave me the impression that the vendor is just a jerk.
Some dialogues were cringeworthy(Rarity flattering the nerd....).
There should also have been an indication that FS did more than talk down a goat. Mr T saying "And now you will deal with someone ignoring you" or something. Any indication would have been good.
Those parts did leave a bitter taste for me. Badly connectivity between scenes are another but minor issue.

I really liked Iron Will though. It makes sense that a physically intimidating person would be actually a bit ignorant when it comes to actual assertiveness. It could only have been better if they had the actuall MR T speaking his voice(Like Q/Discord).
I actually found Pinkies characterisation in this ep way better than Rarity, which is usually way the other way around.
The scene where PP and R have tears in their eyes was pretty good and from there the resolution was fantastic. PP and R came to FSs cottage even though they were wronged, a gesture of forgiveness, really love that. Shots inside the cottage with the horns on the mirror etc. were absolutely excellent, very strong imagery.
Especiall when Iron Will violently tore down the planks in front of the door and then suddenly just knocks on the door. Shows that he is no monster, just a business man/motivation trainer.

So all in all, the first half was a letdown by pony standards if you ask me. Feel bad some people dislike flutterbitch and just wanna see FS being nice all the time. I can accept a pony with "2 faces".
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
March 04 2012 20:22 GMT
#9955
On March 05 2012 02:58 Daralii wrote:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121955/episodes?season=16

IMDB's certainly a more credible source than the shopped screenshot...


We all knew it was coming. I'm looking forward to it, especially if it turns out to be legitimate. (recent SP has been meh, I could see this being a great episode)
Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
March 04 2012 20:41 GMT
#9956
Alright, so I looked away from deviant art for 1 day to enjoy myself, and this happens:

http://doggie999.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-and-Muffin-288590891
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http://imalou.deviantart.com/art/Becoming-insane-288356082
http://secret-pony.deviantart.com/art/Hell-s-kitchen-spoiler-alert-288584955
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http://impending-logic.deviantart.com/art/Trade-LoveTheMess-288566081
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http://impending-logic.deviantart.com/art/Trade-Alan-288477124
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http://mallary.deviantart.com/art/MLP-Cooler-288540504
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http://grilledcat.deviantart.com/art/buddamus-288316227


PONIES, Y YOU MAKE SO MUCH ART.
http://i.imgur.com/IPxgv.png
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
March 04 2012 21:52 GMT
#9957
SO. MANY. LINKS. YES! /save all
Dota 3hard5me
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 21:54:18
March 04 2012 21:54 GMT
#9958
I can't believe I didn't notice this in the new episode

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That is amazing!
Jhuyt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden365 Posts
March 04 2012 22:00 GMT
#9959
Playing in a showmatch was some of the most fun I have had ever, I need to watch the vods tomorrow.

I want to thank Whitewing, Sermo, Bio and StarDragon for these games, now I only want to play some more so that if I do this again I'll win
[17:32] <catphone> Roll for % cooler [17:32] <catphone> .roll d20 [17:32] <+Sweetiebot> catphone: 20 (d20=20)
Tuthur
Profile Joined July 2010
France985 Posts
March 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#9960
+ Show Spoiler +
This part always cracks me up!

I thought that character was awesome, it's a shame he'll probably never come back (kinda like Trixie and other one-episode ponies)
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