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On April 07 2016 02:06 Hyperbola wrote:
It's safe to say this is the final arc, right? Why aren't there any character deaths? I want half the guild to die. It only makes sense given they're at war with the greatest army on the planet.
List of characters I would kill off: Juvia, the buff dude, happy, Markov, Laxus, Laxus' posse, Erza, Kana, Wendy, Gageel, Mira aaaaand Natsu, at the end.
Why would you want like half those people to die?
Like Erza? Really? Your fucking crazy.
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Sieghart died in Rave. Actually, a lot of people died in Rave.
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Gildartz was in Rave too? Thought it was a Only Jellal (which is why he decided to bring him back) tho imo it would have been much better to have left him dead because he is fucking terrible now.
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oops no i meant sieghart. i got messed up with the pseudo german names
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On April 07 2016 03:48 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2016 02:06 Hyperbola wrote:
It's safe to say this is the final arc, right? Why aren't there any character deaths? I want half the guild to die. It only makes sense given they're at war with the greatest army on the planet.
List of characters I would kill off: Juvia, the buff dude, happy, Markov, Laxus, Laxus' posse, Erza, Kana, Wendy, Gageel, Mira aaaaand Natsu, at the end. Why would you want like half those people to die? Like Erza? Really? Your fucking crazy.
Erza's death feels right to me. I feel like her character arc is exhausted and she's part of the "old guard" which needs to die off so the new generation can come about.
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She has always been Natsu's et al's generation. The only relevant old guard would be the 2 guild masters and gildartz. The rest of the older people are those side char guys that no one gives a fuck about.
Erza is one of the main FT characters. By this point everyones "arc is exhausted" except for Natsu because his background arc is the last one and he is the main mc. You basically called for the lions share of the main characters to die. Leaving most of the less popular characters alive. Seems like your list is way toof long and has too many big names on it.
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On April 07 2016 04:55 Slaughter wrote:
She has always been Natsu's et al's generation. The only relevant old guard would be the 2 guild masters and gildartz. The rest of the older people are those side char guys that no one gives a fuck about.
Erza is one of the main FT characters. By this point everyones "arc is exhausted" except for Natsu because his background arc is the last one and he is the main mc. You basically called for the lions share of the main characters to die. Leaving most of the less popular characters alive. Seems like your list is way toof long and has too many big names on it.
It's the end of the series, dude. Fairy Tail is done. The ending would be a lot better and have muchmore significance if it was a "hold the line" moment. Obviously that can't happen now because the enemy is basically finished off... but imagine an alternate reality where Mashima actually has some balls.
The empire comes strolling in, destroying cities and guild left and right and it's up to fairy tail to hold them off for as long as possible. Main characters and side characters ding left and right in sacrifice to slow down the enemy until one glorious finale.
What we have now is a disappointing "meh" invasion where every one of the demi-god level mages are finished off with the power of friendship. No conflict. No interest. No real sense of danger. It's very underwhelming.
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killing people for the sake of killing them isnt good writing if they die it should be because its a good idea for the story and be significant not just "fuck it final arc, rocks fall everyone dies" because then noone cares because there death was pointless
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yeah, slow down there george rr martin
to be fair jk rowling did also kill off a lot of people we liked
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The problem is your killing off too much. Jesus who of the characters the readership cares about survives with the list you made of who should die? Killing for the sake of drama is dumb and lazy attempt to make a series more edgy. You can still have your final grim hold the line confrontation without mass death and for the way the series is it would just seem like desperation by the author. FT has never been that way so why start now?
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You keep assuming these deaths are senseless. If you want, I can outline a good reason for every death I've mentioned. But it would take me a long time so I'll have to charge by the hour.
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On April 07 2016 07:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
yeah, slow down there george rr martin
to be fair jk rowling did also kill off a lot of people we liked
and honestly most of them i didnt even react too, long time characters who were killed for a cheap emotion you kill off too many in too short a time and who gives a fuck?
if you kill of a main character it should be like Ace or Sieghart they deserve there death to get attention and have meaning not just die in a panel and immediately ignored
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If you gut the cast that extensively at the very end then it doesn't matter if you make a good reason for them to die doesn't change the fact that the readers will leave the series with a bitter taste in their mouths knowing the series ended with a Pyrrhic victory where the majority of the favorite chars are dead and FT the guild is gutted and a shadow of its former self.
Especially doing it in a series where death for the good side has been scarce and even a large chunk of the baddies didn't end up dead. It would be out of place.
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On April 07 2016 08:43 Slaughter wrote:
If you gut the cast that extensively at the very end then it doesn't matter if you make a good reason for them to di doesn't change te fact that the readers will leave the series with a bitterrible taste in their mouths knowing the series ended with a phyrric victory where the majority of the favorite chars are dead and FT the guild is gutted aND a shadow of its former self.
Especially doing it in a series where death for the good side has been scarce and even a large chunk of the baddies didn't end up dead. It would be out of place.
that kind of ending neets a setting where it works
like Berserk people are prob expecting several deaths if it ever gets to its end
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all the ppl in berserk died of old age didnt you know? took too long for the chapters to come out
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no spoilers from other manga pls 
now i know that this sieghart guy dies in some manga which i haven't read yet
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Honestly the only end I'd agree to be a good end at this point is an end where zeref wins.
You can't kill off main characters because that's not what FT is like (sadly) and any death now would be very counter-intuitive for pretty much everyone reading it.
And you can't really just let fairy tail win the strongest army in the world AND zeref who has been the superbadass of legend just by the power of friendship, because we have yugioh for that.
Sadly I'm pretty sure nakama power will prevail in the end.
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Also my 2 cents about Erza --
+ Show Spoiler +don't kill me + Show Spoiler + seriously + Show Spoiler +I don't see her as a main character. + Show Spoiler + honestly the only people i see as main characters atm are natsu, mavis and zeref. everyone else is just.. there. + Show Spoiler + and in erza's case she's always kinda just "been there" and done "some stuff" and I've never really felt a connection with her. She's just there for comic relief most of the time when she needs to kick natsu and/or gray in the shin, and for fanservice. Mainly fanservice.
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On April 08 2016 23:07 abuse wrote:Honestly the only end I'd agree to be a good end at this point is an end where zeref wins. You can't kill off main characters because that's not what FT is like (sadly) and any death now would be very counter-intuitive for pretty much everyone reading it. And you can't really just let fairy tail win the strongest army in the world AND zeref who has been the superbadass of legend just by the power of friendship, because we have yugioh for that. Sadly I'm pretty sure nakama power will prevail in the end.
normal soldiers are complete fodder though, the only part of the army that is in any way dangerous is the Spriggan 12 and Zeref, Natsu could wipe out all the infantry solo and prob not even get hurt doing it
and they have a bunch of other guilds there fighting as well
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he could light a fart in their direction and they'd probably be defeated
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