[Manga] Fairy Tail - Page 163

On June 12 2015 01:46 Canucklehead wrote:


I love it! It's a necessary step forward because I was sad ft was ending soon, but now there's new hope and I hope this alvarez arc is good and long and then we can do the zeref finale!

On June 12 2015 17:02 abuse wrote:



How is it a step forward though?
Look how you want, it is pretty much a filler arc.
The story was set. Everything was set for a good finale. Now it's all being put aside to show something else, which basically came from nowhere. That's basically the definition of filler.
Shows that overstay their welcome often become much worse overall.
I really hope it won't be the case here, but so far, it looks like it will be.
Stuff like this should've been put up as an OVA or something after the anime ends.

On June 16 2015 05:14 Canucklehead wrote:
Woo reformation of team b and omg is that yury as God Serena?! If It is I hope he's just a spy trying to protect his precious mavis's body and whatever lumen histoire is and doesn't end up evil like the last ft master. Also, how the hell did mavis die while every other founding member is still alive?!

On June 16 2015 09:49 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
The number of enemy leaders keeps on increasing. You start by fighting the Oracion Seis, then the Seven Kin of Purgatory, then the Nine Demon Gates, and now you end up with Twelve. At some point it'll just take an excessive number of chapters to defeat all of them. I really hope Acnologia or Zeref kill the last 3 or 4 of them just to make a point of how badass they are.

On June 16 2015 11:36 Hyperbola wrote:
See this guy? He's the new villain and he's more powerful than you can ever imagine! He has the power to rule the world!
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See this guy? He's even more powerful. In fact if he wanted to he could rule the world!
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This new guy? So much more powerful than the last! He has the very power to rule over everyone in this world!
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Alright, THIS guy. This is the one you watch out for. All those others were chumps because this guy can RULE THE WORLD.
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Those were all pansies compared to this dude. He could be the emperor of everything if he wanted to be!
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Okay, new baddie, same damn thing yadda yadda get excited. Rule the world....!

On June 16 2015 11:38 Forikorder wrote:

welcome to every action manga ever written?

On June 16 2015 11:45 Hyperbola wrote:

Except One Piece.

On June 16 2015 14:24 Hyperbola wrote:
Irrelevant. I was talking about a constantly rising skill "ceiling" where every new villain is the ultimate evil, otherwise known as the DBZ effect.

On June 16 2015 14:24 Hyperbola wrote:
Irrelevant. I was talking about a constantly rising skill "ceiling" where every new villain is the ultimate evil, otherwise known as the DBZ effect.

On June 16 2015 14:29 Forikorder wrote:

well Doflamingo might have tied that up and thrown it out the window in all honesty

and Fairy tail is hardly a casualty of the skill ceiling, the first boss (gerard if memories serves) is still definently relevant there has hardly been a DBZ esque scaling since their opponents havent dont things that are obviously stronger then the previous tier of boss and more importantly the main character hasnt scaled like Goku did

DBZ-effect was because it was basically constant training arcs with each one ending in a clear powerup for the main character but FT has not had such power ups, they just beat someone strong then someone else strong apears, not someone else who is clearly much stronger then the last boss

The key to avoiding that is to clearly show that there are much more powerful people out there right from the start, which is what Oda did. Since Fairy Tail was supposed to end after 10 volumes... well Mashima didn't bother. Also you have to have a really good idea of where your manga is going to be able to do that.

Well almost no manga exhibit the DBZ-effect as strongly as DBZ did for obvious reasons. And I'd argue that old bosses still being relevant later on, or rather being powered up to be brought up to almost the same level as the new bigger badder boss is a symptom of the DBZ-effect.

if old bosses are still relevant, then the power levels havent changed much which is the exact opposite of the DBZ effect

On June 16 2015 14:48 Slaughter wrote:
FT has established who the big baddies are since forever ago. No one has been "the most powerful new villain". They were all literally cronies and Mashima very clearly laid out the hierarchy of the dark guilds early on so none of them has really been a surprise really. Notice how after wiping out the last of the true dark guilds the baddies that they destroyed after that was a Rolf stomp? Because FT has systematically taken down the higher tier dark guilds. There hasn't really been a parade of "most powerful guy eva!" because we all know its Zeref and the Dragon King and it has been that way since basically the start.

If anything bringing in this other kingdom feels like a stall tactic because Mashima knows he has basically progressed through all the villians that were foreshadowed and apparently he isn't ready to end the series yet so off to play in a different country (while also probably getting another power up to beat Zeref).

Though on second thought, I guess I wouldn't call it a symptom either. It is simply a result of mangakas and writers in general wanting to reuse characters that have become fan favourites, and if the power levels have increased, the old characters power levels have to increased accordingly just to remain relevant.