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Mantaza
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany87 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-31 14:53:26
January 31 2014 14:48 GMT
#2301
so we have finally seen the power of heavenly body magic sema huh ? Last time he tried to use it he got canceled out by ultear well it looked like it destroyed a huge part of the place they were at no wonder he shouldnt have used it in the grand magic battles also it looked like a real meteor coming down
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 31 2014 14:55 GMT
#2302
But damn, Jellal pretty boss. + Show Spoiler +
Crushing your eyes and still bringing out a beatdown. And Oracion Seis getting even more fleshed out is always something to look forward to. Also, liking where FT is going so far, with the ex-prez
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 31 2014 17:08 GMT
#2303
Chairman was an idiot revealing he was a key. A very serious idiot. How did he not see that coming? I saw it coming as soon as he said. BAKA

BAKAKAKAB
maru lover forever
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 31 2014 17:23 GMT
#2304
Lol author such a tease.
Never Knows Best.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 31 2014 17:51 GMT
#2305
On February 01 2014 02:08 Incognoto wrote:
Chairman was an idiot revealing he was a key. A very serious idiot. How did he not see that coming? I saw it coming as soon as he said. BAKA

BAKAKAKAB


Why wouldn't he? He's like "look I have this amazing power. You guys could really benefit from my power, which is awesome". And they're all like "well shit, we're villains right? It'd me much harder to lose if we keep this guy around. Better kill him for plot".
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 31 2014 17:54 GMT
#2306
Or maybe because they are demons who have openly stated their disgust/hate of humans? Why would he think hes anything other than just a means to an end besides ego.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 31 2014 17:59 GMT
#2307
On February 01 2014 02:51 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 02:08 Incognoto wrote:
Chairman was an idiot revealing he was a key. A very serious idiot. How did he not see that coming? I saw it coming as soon as he said. BAKA

BAKAKAKAB


Why wouldn't he? He's like "look I have this amazing power. You guys could really benefit from my power, which is awesome". And they're all like "well shit, we're villains right? It'd me much harder to lose if we keep this guy around. Better kill him for plot".

no hes like "look i have this power that the only use for is to find the seal to face (since you guys insta win once it activated anyway) and i just set it up so that if you kill me then face is activated"
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
January 31 2014 18:06 GMT
#2308
So he crushed his own eyes if I read that correctly? So he's blind now then? Interesting counter to that nightmare magic, or whatever it was. Cripple yourself.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 31 2014 18:09 GMT
#2309
On February 01 2014 03:06 sumsaR wrote:
So he crushed his own eyes if I read that correctly? So he's blind now then? Interesting counter to that nightmare magic, or whatever it was. Cripple yourself.

he had them open at the end he damaged his eyes but hes still gonna be fine
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 31 2014 18:16 GMT
#2310
Did he really need to crush/damage them? Is closing your eyes not an acceptable alternative? I forgot how exactly his nightmare works.

I would think he would know how to counter it beforehand considering he fought the same guy with Erza before. He is supposed to be resourceful/smart so I am surprised he didn't find out a better counter since traditionally illusion based magic becomes weaker when you are aware of it.
Never Knows Best.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
January 31 2014 19:08 GMT
#2311
I hope silver doesn't end up being future grey like some people think as I think that would be dumb unless he got plastic surgery in the future to look completely different. I'll buy the father theory.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 31 2014 19:51 GMT
#2312
On February 01 2014 02:59 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 02:51 Dark_Chill wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:08 Incognoto wrote:
Chairman was an idiot revealing he was a key. A very serious idiot. How did he not see that coming? I saw it coming as soon as he said. BAKA

BAKAKAKAB


Why wouldn't he? He's like "look I have this amazing power. You guys could really benefit from my power, which is awesome". And they're all like "well shit, we're villains right? It'd me much harder to lose if we keep this guy around. Better kill him for plot".

no hes like "look i have this power that the only use for is to find the seal to face (since you guys insta win once it activated anyway) and i just set it up so that if you kill me then face is activated"


You can do that when you have no other choice. You have a guy with a great and unique magic working for you and completely fine with transferring it to your enemy and continue working for you. He even suggested it. Why would you not take that option? This is literally just villains being dumb for the sake of plot. What if Face backfires or stop working or whatever? The only thing you accomplished is to remove one of your own. They didn't even bother to be like "okay transfer it" and then lock him away afterwords in case he's needed.
And I remind you, this is a man who betrayed the rest of humanity for his own profit, and is content with working for you even though one of the strongest guilds will be coming after them. Is this really a man you think you can't trust?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
January 31 2014 19:55 GMT
#2313
Killing the Chairman was a obvious move that would have happened anyway. He was an idiot to transfer the key to face to himself given he is in a floating cube full of Zerefs demons who hate humans and seem to not give a shit what they kill. Dude was clearly an idiot.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
January 31 2014 20:09 GMT
#2314
And what's to say he wouldn't be one affected by the magic nullification when they were done with him (assuming they wouldn't kill him before that)? He'd just be a fat egomanical douche then, hardly worth anything.
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
January 31 2014 22:58 GMT
#2315
On January 31 2014 23:30 Serejai wrote:
I watched the anime but didn't really pick up the manga afterwards. Has Elfman actually ever done anything? I know at the start of the show they introduced him as being stronger than Natsu but all of his fights in the anime involved him getting stomped. He reminds me of Usopp in that there could and should be potential there but it never really shines through.

And what happened to the iron dragon slayer guy? He was all over the anime but I don't recall seeing him in any of the manga that I've read over the last few months. I have to agree with the power levels being problematic, too.

The only person that seems to have a stable power level is Gildarts.


Stable as " way way way higher than anyone else so the author doesn't even need to quantify it " ? :D
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
February 01 2014 00:08 GMT
#2316
On February 01 2014 04:51 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 02:59 Forikorder wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:51 Dark_Chill wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:08 Incognoto wrote:
Chairman was an idiot revealing he was a key. A very serious idiot. How did he not see that coming? I saw it coming as soon as he said. BAKA

BAKAKAKAB


Why wouldn't he? He's like "look I have this amazing power. You guys could really benefit from my power, which is awesome". And they're all like "well shit, we're villains right? It'd me much harder to lose if we keep this guy around. Better kill him for plot".

no hes like "look i have this power that the only use for is to find the seal to face (since you guys insta win once it activated anyway) and i just set it up so that if you kill me then face is activated"


You can do that when you have no other choice. You have a guy with a great and unique magic working for you and completely fine with transferring it to your enemy and continue working for you. He even suggested it. Why would you not take that option? This is literally just villains being dumb for the sake of plot. What if Face backfires or stop working or whatever? The only thing you accomplished is to remove one of your own. They didn't even bother to be like "okay transfer it" and then lock him away afterwords in case he's needed.
And I remind you, this is a man who betrayed the rest of humanity for his own profit, and is content with working for you even though one of the strongest guilds will be coming after them. Is this really a man you think you can't trust?

You reminded us that this is a man who betrayed the rest of humanity for his own profit. Why the hell would you trust him?
Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 01 2014 05:06 GMT
#2317
On February 01 2014 04:51 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 02:59 Forikorder wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:51 Dark_Chill wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:08 Incognoto wrote:
Chairman was an idiot revealing he was a key. A very serious idiot. How did he not see that coming? I saw it coming as soon as he said. BAKA

BAKAKAKAB


Why wouldn't he? He's like "look I have this amazing power. You guys could really benefit from my power, which is awesome". And they're all like "well shit, we're villains right? It'd me much harder to lose if we keep this guy around. Better kill him for plot".

no hes like "look i have this power that the only use for is to find the seal to face (since you guys insta win once it activated anyway) and i just set it up so that if you kill me then face is activated"


You can do that when you have no other choice. You have a guy with a great and unique magic working for you and completely fine with transferring it to your enemy and continue working for you. He even suggested it. Why would you not take that option? This is literally just villains being dumb for the sake of plot. What if Face backfires or stop working or whatever? The only thing you accomplished is to remove one of your own. They didn't even bother to be like "okay transfer it" and then lock him away afterwords in case he's needed.
And I remind you, this is a man who betrayed the rest of humanity for his own profit, and is content with working for you even though one of the strongest guilds will be coming after them. Is this really a man you think you can't trust?

the only thing he can do is gather information, they have all the information they want, if Face doesnt work then all they have left is all out assault theres no other convenient super weapon to abuse
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
February 02 2014 01:18 GMT
#2318
On February 01 2014 09:08 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 04:51 Dark_Chill wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:59 Forikorder wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:51 Dark_Chill wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:08 Incognoto wrote:
Chairman was an idiot revealing he was a key. A very serious idiot. How did he not see that coming? I saw it coming as soon as he said. BAKA

BAKAKAKAB


Why wouldn't he? He's like "look I have this amazing power. You guys could really benefit from my power, which is awesome". And they're all like "well shit, we're villains right? It'd me much harder to lose if we keep this guy around. Better kill him for plot".

no hes like "look i have this power that the only use for is to find the seal to face (since you guys insta win once it activated anyway) and i just set it up so that if you kill me then face is activated"


You can do that when you have no other choice. You have a guy with a great and unique magic working for you and completely fine with transferring it to your enemy and continue working for you. He even suggested it. Why would you not take that option? This is literally just villains being dumb for the sake of plot. What if Face backfires or stop working or whatever? The only thing you accomplished is to remove one of your own. They didn't even bother to be like "okay transfer it" and then lock him away afterwords in case he's needed.
And I remind you, this is a man who betrayed the rest of humanity for his own profit, and is content with working for you even though one of the strongest guilds will be coming after them. Is this really a man you think you can't trust?

You reminded us that this is a man who betrayed the rest of humanity for his own profit. Why the hell would you trust him?


This is a guy who's betrayed the rest of humanity even after someone came and attacked, coming from one of the strongest guilds. He's still like "whatever, still helping you guys and being really chummy with you guys".
And, to try and bring this point home, tell me this: why did they kill him? What exactly made that seem like the best option, when he said they could transfer it over and just kill that person. I'm telling you, they killed him because they're terrible villains, who don't like to plan in case stuff happens.
Now I'm starting to wonder why I originally made this argument. Complaining Shounen villains are shounen villains.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
February 02 2014 02:27 GMT
#2319
Jellal has been my favorite character for a while and this is exactly why is such a badass.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 02 2014 04:58 GMT
#2320
On February 02 2014 10:18 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 09:08 Jormundr wrote:
On February 01 2014 04:51 Dark_Chill wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:59 Forikorder wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:51 Dark_Chill wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:08 Incognoto wrote:
Chairman was an idiot revealing he was a key. A very serious idiot. How did he not see that coming? I saw it coming as soon as he said. BAKA

BAKAKAKAB


Why wouldn't he? He's like "look I have this amazing power. You guys could really benefit from my power, which is awesome". And they're all like "well shit, we're villains right? It'd me much harder to lose if we keep this guy around. Better kill him for plot".

no hes like "look i have this power that the only use for is to find the seal to face (since you guys insta win once it activated anyway) and i just set it up so that if you kill me then face is activated"


You can do that when you have no other choice. You have a guy with a great and unique magic working for you and completely fine with transferring it to your enemy and continue working for you. He even suggested it. Why would you not take that option? This is literally just villains being dumb for the sake of plot. What if Face backfires or stop working or whatever? The only thing you accomplished is to remove one of your own. They didn't even bother to be like "okay transfer it" and then lock him away afterwords in case he's needed.
And I remind you, this is a man who betrayed the rest of humanity for his own profit, and is content with working for you even though one of the strongest guilds will be coming after them. Is this really a man you think you can't trust?

You reminded us that this is a man who betrayed the rest of humanity for his own profit. Why the hell would you trust him?


This is a guy who's betrayed the rest of humanity even after someone came and attacked, coming from one of the strongest guilds. He's still like "whatever, still helping you guys and being really chummy with you guys".
And, to try and bring this point home, tell me this: why did they kill him? What exactly made that seem like the best option, when he said they could transfer it over and just kill that person. I'm telling you, they killed him because they're terrible villains, who don't like to plan in case stuff happens.
Now I'm starting to wonder why I originally made this argument. Complaining Shounen villains are shounen villains.

because A) they never planned to let him live and B) this way is much faster

the only reason they needed him was to help them find face and the keys, they already know where face is and he has the last key
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