EPT[The International 9] Main Event - Day 5 - Page 36
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:32 nojok wrote: Alche ulti has always been about that sick BAT, rest is details. Nah, Alch ulti was always been about nigh unkillability, rest is details. Even lower BAT on it is required to use basher and bash the only person who can remove your HP to death. | ||
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goody153
44274 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:31 Elurie wrote: Alch alone the problem or was it Alch + Chen? Alch can completely be crushed from the secret series you have seen. Actually in an even game even alch can be beaten by alot of cores. The problem was that alch + chen + surge was making alch really hard to kill and LGD didn't have the heroes to kill him at the timing he hits. Alch isn't actually the problem. Ana also did have a great start which contributes to the loss worse. Ana had a 13 minutes soulring/radiance/phase and almost bkb. he was so fat | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:32 Kishin2 wrote: i kinda wanna see liquid knock out lgd just to see how empty the arena would be for the finals. people said this about chongqing and the stadium was still packed for Secret vs. VP western fans are just delusional and propagate the "China only cares about Chinese teams" meme because they're butthurt China likes China teams | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:31 lolfail9001 wrote: Didn't you already see what LGD does with DK Jakiro pick in VG series though? yeah but i thought that would be an exception since they weren't vs alch and had a much better early game i was wrong | ||
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goody153
44274 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:33 TomatoBisque wrote: people said this about chongqing and the stadium was still packed for Secret vs. VP western fans are just delusional and propagate the "China only cares about Chinese teams" meme because they're butthurt China likes China teams I think people are butthurt about the booing and chasing players on their room. Which never happened before ever. Also probably about them being who gives so much shit but can't take shit themselves. | ||
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Gamble28
Germany107 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:31 lolfail9001 wrote: Alch+Chen+DS. OG are really good at finding right ways to boost their heroes. It's the post-Wings effect. Wings "trick" was multi-hero synergies that you couldn't easily ban out. (2nd phase bans mattered more against them.) OG has a core strategic approach: find that boost-point that overwhelms the other team. At times it was 2 defensive supports, and, other times, it's hard-timing Carry Io. Racecar Alch + Chen just hits so hard. Also, credit to Notail doing stacks with his dominated creeps and his hero at the same time. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:34 goody153 wrote: I think people are butthurt about the booing and chasing players on their room. Which never happened before ever. Also probably about them being who gives so much shit but can't take shit themselves. What is this booing and chasing story? Never heard of it. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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CA Infraction
United States170 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:33 TomatoBisque wrote: people said this about chongqing and the stadium was still packed for Secret vs. VP western fans are just delusional and propagate the "China only cares about Chinese teams" meme because they're butthurt China likes China teams And Chongqing major had final day with zero chinese teams. We are guaranteed a chinese team for finals day. There is zero chance the crowd isn't going to be packed and popping off tomorrow. | ||
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goody153
44274 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:35 Taf the Ghost wrote: It's the post-Wings effect. Wings "trick" was multi-hero synergies that you couldn't easily ban out. (2nd phase bans mattered more against them.) OG has a core strategic approach: find that boost-point that overwhelms the other team. At times it was 2 defensive supports, and, other times, it's hard-timing Carry Io. Racecar Alch + Chen just hits so hard. Also, credit to Notail doing stacks with his dominated creeps and his hero at the same time. That was pretty cool to see too. Notail didn't just hoard his creeps into a lane but stacked alot for alch. | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:31 goody153 wrote: DK pretty much ruined it and they don't even need the hero. They sven to break towers I think any other hero like ember, lesh or something that can fight early-midgame is probably better. Lesh is good , but he is paper when Alch is running at you 12 min in with Radiance/BKB Ion shell surge , he will just kill him in an instant. Giving away Alch first pick is hard to counter , giving it away at Pick 3 you really need a good plan , it only works if you are prepared for it , they werent and got bodied , mainly the 2 midas on cores into fighting non stop before getting ANY items was just bad. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:35 nojok wrote: What is this booing and chasing story? Never heard of it. Tnc were apparently harassed even outside the game time, which is just sad. | ||
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Latham
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:36 Latham wrote: I would LMAO so hard if LGD lose this today and somehow the lower bracket finals tomorrow. Sadly, I don't see how they could not get into the finals. If not for Mineski's self sacrificial throw, every team that got knocked down from upper bracket would lose in their first lower bracket match. | ||
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goody153
44274 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:35 nojok wrote: What is this booing and chasing story? Never heard of it. There's plenty of threads on reddit to fill the details. They basically boo Kuku/TNC all the time and after their loss they still screamed insults even outside the stadium into their team rooms. You don't see that shit before till now. And ceb insulted the russians or mindcontrol before but the next event on russia they didn't do that Supporting hometown teams feverishly is totally ok. Harrassing players outside the game sounds retarded tbh | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:33 TomatoBisque wrote: people said this about chongqing and the stadium was still packed for Secret vs. VP western fans are just delusional and propagate the "China only cares about Chinese teams" meme because they're butthurt China likes China teams nah its really the booing and intentional silence that makes me think that i do think it's an excuse a lot of people use to be blatantly racist. peruvians and russians have gotten plenty of that, but truthfully there are a lot of things in chinese culture to be critical toward. | ||
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CA Infraction
United States170 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:36 bluzi wrote: Lesh is good , but he is paper when Alch is running at you 12 min in with Radiance/BKB Ion shell surge , he will just kill him in an instant. Giving away Alch first pick is hard to counter , giving it away at Pick 3 you really need a good plan , it only works if you are prepared for it , they werent and got bodied , mainly the 2 midas on cores into fighting non stop before getting ANY items was just bad. Yeah you need heroes that can invade alchs jungle and fight him before he hits his timing. That is harder to do when you suddenly only have 2 or 3 picks to adjust to the alch and isn't possible when you go double midas. | ||
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turpentine
1624 Posts
On August 24 2019 15:33 TomatoBisque wrote: people said this about chongqing and the stadium was still packed for Secret vs. VP western fans are just delusional and propagate the "China only cares about Chinese teams" meme because they're butthurt China likes China teams yeah when the top western teams were playing series the Chinese fans were excited, obv they're going to care less about tier 2 western teams | ||
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