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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 23 2019 06:59 GMT
#321
secret has tiny void already it feels over
posting on liquid sites in current year
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 23 2019 07:00 GMT
#322
On August 23 2019 15:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2019 15:56 plasmidghost wrote:
Theorycrafting here: Say Secret picks Tiny. Isn't Pugna a good counter at any point in the game? Early game, you push really quick and limit the space for Tiny to farm, and late game, you can decrepify to avoid the damage from tree volley, right?

There is only a minor issue: tiny can buy blink and blow you up the normal way because you are playing Pugna. With such logic you might as well pick timber so that tiny has no trees to cut.

EDIT: Secret decided to just pick void-tiny rest of the tournament?

actually should pick timber and wreck the forest, whats the respawn time?
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 23 2019 07:00 GMT
#323
On August 23 2019 15:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2019 15:56 plasmidghost wrote:
Theorycrafting here: Say Secret picks Tiny. Isn't Pugna a good counter at any point in the game? Early game, you push really quick and limit the space for Tiny to farm, and late game, you can decrepify to avoid the damage from tree volley, right?

There is only a minor issue: tiny can buy blink and blow you up the normal way because you are playing Pugna. With such logic you might as well pick timber so that tiny has no trees to cut.

EDIT: Secret decided to just pick void-tiny rest of the tournament?

Ah, okay, yeah, that does make sense, since every Tiny goes blink first
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 23 2019 07:01 GMT
#324
On August 23 2019 16:00 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2019 15:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 23 2019 15:56 plasmidghost wrote:
Theorycrafting here: Say Secret picks Tiny. Isn't Pugna a good counter at any point in the game? Early game, you push really quick and limit the space for Tiny to farm, and late game, you can decrepify to avoid the damage from tree volley, right?

There is only a minor issue: tiny can buy blink and blow you up the normal way because you are playing Pugna. With such logic you might as well pick timber so that tiny has no trees to cut.

EDIT: Secret decided to just pick void-tiny rest of the tournament?

actually should pick timber and wreck the forest, whats the respawn time?

Few minutes iirc, unless treant protector with that silly talent is in the game.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 23 2019 07:02 GMT
#325
Glad Infamous got SD and Doom here, they desperately needed some defensive heroes last game and Doom is, as just mentioned, a great counter
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 23 2019 07:02 GMT
#326
Doom. O.o Haven't seen that one yet but I didn't catch all games and barely any group games.
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 23 2019 07:05 GMT
#327
Secret is saying "can people actually beat this? Let's just keep testing" I'm almost sure they would try it against VG in game 1, but VG probably has the exact same view on the current meta and therefore neither team will get both.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 23 2019 07:05 GMT
#328
purple draft vs red draft
posting on liquid sites in current year
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 23 2019 07:06 GMT
#329
On August 23 2019 16:02 plasmidghost wrote:
Glad Infamous got SD and Doom here, they desperately needed some defensive heroes last game and Doom is, as just mentioned, a great counter


SD matters more because it normally hard counters Hector's hero. Part of the WK meta is that SD normally isn't huge against WK because of reincarnate.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-23 07:10:58
August 23 2019 07:09 GMT
#330
On August 23 2019 16:05 Shergal wrote:
Secret is saying "can people actually beat this? Let's just keep testing" I'm almost sure they would try it against VG in game 1, but VG probably has the exact same view on the current meta and therefore neither team will get both.

The only game i saw tiny-void lose was VG's copy of LGD's tiny-void-magnus-ogre draft against OG and there most agree that VG would win if not for Paparazi throwing.

EDIT: Oh, Yapzor enigma, 2-0.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
August 23 2019 07:12 GMT
#331
only 4 unpick heroes in the whole grand final of TI4
new record?
-Terran-
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 23 2019 07:14 GMT
#332
Feel Inf is far more exciting than Secret. Secret is only fun to watch because their games are so scrappy, I feel.
LiangHao
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 23 2019 07:17 GMT
#333
We need more Sniper so the "hoho haha" meta is back.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 23 2019 07:20 GMT
#334
Infamous is still behind, but I honestly thought they would be a lot more behind at this point
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 23 2019 07:21 GMT
#335
This is looking really good for Secret... Tiny & Void are doing great.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 23 2019 07:23 GMT
#336
Well, that's probably game
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 23 2019 07:23 GMT
#337
purpler = betterer
posting on liquid sites in current year
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 23 2019 07:24 GMT
#338
Infamous had a great tournament, like the TNC run back at TI6. It's great to see a SA team being able to hold its own against top teams finally. Hope it makes for some great future tournaments.
SeethingErmine
Profile Joined August 2015
United States25 Posts
August 23 2019 07:24 GMT
#339
This is what Inf looks like when you don't let them play on their best heroes with their one really good style. Puppey still winning games with drafts after all these years.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
August 23 2019 07:25 GMT
#340
Getting late so ahead of watching noobfromua tomorrow

Poll: Who wins

Whoever gets them next round? (2)
 
33%

EG (2)
 
33%

Liquid (1)
 
17%

Turtles (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Who wins

(Vote): Liquid
(Vote): EG
(Vote): Whoever gets them next round?
(Vote): Turtles



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