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On August 21 2019 17:25 babysimba wrote:
The problem with Secret isn't about not knowing how to play or win. It's about giving in to the pressure of TI and playing differently from their usual. They might wake up anytime in the tournament. Their potential to win TI is still there, and still rather high chances I would say. They are not like EG or Liquid who still have inherent problems in their gameplay.
Idk if Liquid gains momentum they can suddenly run through everybody. We have seen it happen (that was when matu was still there but i don't think it is that different).
Liquid and Secret are pretty much on the same boat at just randomly winning the entire tournament.
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to me this EG draft is terrible, all down to a good RP + RTZ
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eg shoulda won last game
SIGH SIGH SIGH
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On August 21 2019 17:27 Zea! wrote:
to me this EG draft is terrible, all down to a good RP + RTZ
Feels like the ench actually ruined the draft but that's just me
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On August 21 2019 17:28 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 17:27 Zea! wrote:
to me this EG draft is terrible, all down to a good RP + RTZ Feels like the ench actually ruined the draft but that's just me
I agree
ench + 2 other cores that need farm is some game losing shit unless you dominate lanes
someone always ends up poor
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On August 21 2019 17:28 woojaekeem wrote:
eg shoulda won last game
SIGH SIGH SIGH
well Nisha is a god. His void gameplay was just as good as Ame playing it.
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On August 21 2019 17:27 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 17:25 babysimba wrote:
The problem with Secret isn't about not knowing how to play or win. It's about giving in to the pressure of TI and playing differently from their usual. They might wake up anytime in the tournament. Their potential to win TI is still there, and still rather high chances I would say. They are not like EG or Liquid who still have inherent problems in their gameplay. Idk if Liquid gains momentum they can suddenly run through everybody. We have seen it happen (that was when matu was still there but i don't think it is that different). Liquid and Secret are pretty much on the same boat at just randomly winning the entire tournament.
Liquid feels like they have more problems than just playing scared or under pressure. The team is just super uncoordinated and plays like they have no plan beyond "Miracle 1v5" half the time
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On August 21 2019 17:29 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 17:27 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 17:25 babysimba wrote:
The problem with Secret isn't about not knowing how to play or win. It's about giving in to the pressure of TI and playing differently from their usual. They might wake up anytime in the tournament. Their potential to win TI is still there, and still rather high chances I would say. They are not like EG or Liquid who still have inherent problems in their gameplay. Idk if Liquid gains momentum they can suddenly run through everybody. We have seen it happen (that was when matu was still there but i don't think it is that different). Liquid and Secret are pretty much on the same boat at just randomly winning the entire tournament. Liquid feels like they have more problems than just playing scared or under pressure. The team is just super uncoordinated and plays like they have no plan beyond "Miracle 1v5" half the time
How well did they do yesterday against Fnatic ? I kinda didn't bother cause i knew Fnatic was gonna lose like that team is in the same state as last year with not having a fight in them lol
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On August 21 2019 17:30 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 17:29 TomatoBisque wrote:On August 21 2019 17:27 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 17:25 babysimba wrote:
The problem with Secret isn't about not knowing how to play or win. It's about giving in to the pressure of TI and playing differently from their usual. They might wake up anytime in the tournament. Their potential to win TI is still there, and still rather high chances I would say. They are not like EG or Liquid who still have inherent problems in their gameplay. Idk if Liquid gains momentum they can suddenly run through everybody. We have seen it happen (that was when matu was still there but i don't think it is that different). Liquid and Secret are pretty much on the same boat at just randomly winning the entire tournament. Liquid feels like they have more problems than just playing scared or under pressure. The team is just super uncoordinated and plays like they have no plan beyond "Miracle 1v5" half the time How well did they do yesterday against Fnatic ? I kinda didn't bother cause i knew Fnatic was gonna lose lol
idk I was asleep, from what I read fnatic fucked up a bit, airballed some black holes
also holy shit midone
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On August 21 2019 17:28 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 17:27 Zea! wrote:
to me this EG draft is terrible, all down to a good RP + RTZ Feels like the ench actually ruined the draft but that's just me
There's the classic "hero looks great, team losses game" picks.
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On August 21 2019 17:31 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 17:28 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 17:27 Zea! wrote:
to me this EG draft is terrible, all down to a good RP + RTZ Feels like the ench actually ruined the draft but that's just me There's the classic "hero looks great, team losses game" picks.
Ench doesn't even look great this game. That hero wants to win its lane and get ahead but s4 got destroyed
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On August 21 2019 17:25 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 17:21 bluzi wrote:On August 21 2019 17:19 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 17:18 bluzi wrote:On August 21 2019 17:05 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 17:04 CA Infraction wrote:On August 21 2019 17:00 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 16:53 bluzi wrote:On August 21 2019 16:48 RubickPicker wrote:On August 21 2019 16:37 goody153 wrote:
as sick as secret was
i want eg to win so that we can get another EG vs OG .. and repeat TI8 This is like the people who kept talking about “el classico” as Alliance and then Navi went to rot. I don’t dislike Secret but OG will steamroll either of these teams. There is 0 reason to believe OG will steamroll Secret/EG , mainly Secret which are very consistent and solid team. Sure if you haven't seen Secret and OG playing this TI since and only basing it pre-TI. Actually pre-TI liquid and VP are pretty crazy. Look at them now Secret has looked very solid this Ti as well and same for EG after the first 2 days of groups. Looked solid but we are comparing to OG here. If we weren't well i do agree Otherwise no fucking way that looks solid(secret almost lost to 4 lategames against random teams). And EG's last two days was still shaky as hell despite managing to get into upperbracket The quality of how solid they are compared to OG is so damn far. Its like in boxing , once you face the elite its where it counts , taking NEWBEE apart is not a feat that put them that far away from the competition , are they good ? sure , are they far away from the pack ? NO WAY. You didn't seem to watch the group stages. Secret almost lost to newbee twice. Like it was so damn close. OG practically ran through Newbee like they weren't even worth the time. Rewatch the group stages. So are you saying that you expect OG to roll this TI? I say they lose to Secret next series , cya soon!!! I pretty much don't care if OG or Secret wins next series(as it seems Secret is gonna win this series considering how tilted EG seems to be playing lol) but i am arguing about how clearly you haven't seen the group stages but made remarks about Secret being far more "solid" than OG has been. If you have you would have different thoughts about the games. Obviously we will never know till the real series is played but saying Secret is the actual best team so far is not actually a thing. (it is possible but as we have seen so far nope)
I didn't say you care about OG winning or Secret , I just think that you are stating things without seeing the bigger picture that's all , if you believe OG are far ahead of the competition due to the group stage and a Newbee win , then you are missing the point , I would STILL put LGD and Secret above OG due to a year of consistency and their ability to win when it matters.
I never said Secret is the best thing , they are on the Elite and there is no clear best team yet , I would wait for the titan to clash before I can decide who is the best team this TI , too early in the playoff to decide.
Again , If I would bet my house on the next series it would be Secret to win , you think OG are the favourites , and that's fine and not unreasonable to believe , again my opinion is that they didn't do enough yet to warrant the title "favourites".
will be a good series for sure!!!!!!
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On August 21 2019 17:32 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 17:31 Taf the Ghost wrote:On August 21 2019 17:28 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 17:27 Zea! wrote:
to me this EG draft is terrible, all down to a good RP + RTZ Feels like the ench actually ruined the draft but that's just me There's the classic "hero looks great, team losses game" picks. Ench doesn't even look great this game. That hero wants to win its lane and get ahead but s4 got destroyed
whose S4 ? that's $4
last game S4 subbed as the EG offlaner not this game
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On August 21 2019 17:32 bluzi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 17:25 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 17:21 bluzi wrote:On August 21 2019 17:19 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 17:18 bluzi wrote:On August 21 2019 17:05 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 17:04 CA Infraction wrote:On August 21 2019 17:00 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 16:53 bluzi wrote:On August 21 2019 16:48 RubickPicker wrote:
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This is like the people who kept talking about “el classico” as Alliance and then Navi went to rot.
I don’t dislike Secret but OG will steamroll either of these teams. There is 0 reason to believe OG will steamroll Secret/EG , mainly Secret which are very consistent and solid team. Sure if you haven't seen Secret and OG playing this TI since and only basing it pre-TI. Actually pre-TI liquid and VP are pretty crazy. Look at them now Secret has looked very solid this Ti as well and same for EG after the first 2 days of groups. Looked solid but we are comparing to OG here. If we weren't well i do agree Otherwise no fucking way that looks solid(secret almost lost to 4 lategames against random teams). And EG's last two days was still shaky as hell despite managing to get into upperbracket The quality of how solid they are compared to OG is so damn far. Its like in boxing , once you face the elite its where it counts , taking NEWBEE apart is not a feat that put them that far away from the competition , are they good ? sure , are they far away from the pack ? NO WAY. You didn't seem to watch the group stages. Secret almost lost to newbee twice. Like it was so damn close. OG practically ran through Newbee like they weren't even worth the time. Rewatch the group stages. So are you saying that you expect OG to roll this TI? I say they lose to Secret next series , cya soon!!! I pretty much don't care if OG or Secret wins next series(as it seems Secret is gonna win this series considering how tilted EG seems to be playing lol) but i am arguing about how clearly you haven't seen the group stages but made remarks about Secret being far more "solid" than OG has been. If you have you would have different thoughts about the games. Obviously we will never know till the real series is played but saying Secret is the actual best team so far is not actually a thing. (it is possible but as we have seen so far nope) will be a good series for sure!!!!!!
That i agree. Or so i hope as i am kinda disappointed with EG now i just want secret to win.
Also both teams have a tendency to run over the other team with style so i hope that doesn't happen. I just want a tight series dude
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EG must prolong this the most possible
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On August 21 2019 17:34 Zea! wrote:
EG must prolong this the most possible
Do they even have the lategame advantage ?
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secret is forcing out a lot of rtz's bkb charges
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On August 21 2019 17:29 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 17:27 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 17:25 babysimba wrote:
The problem with Secret isn't about not knowing how to play or win. It's about giving in to the pressure of TI and playing differently from their usual. They might wake up anytime in the tournament. Their potential to win TI is still there, and still rather high chances I would say. They are not like EG or Liquid who still have inherent problems in their gameplay. Idk if Liquid gains momentum they can suddenly run through everybody. We have seen it happen (that was when matu was still there but i don't think it is that different). Liquid and Secret are pretty much on the same boat at just randomly winning the entire tournament. Liquid feels like they have more problems than just playing scared or under pressure. The team is just super uncoordinated and plays like they have no plan beyond "Miracle 1v5" half the time
Liquid is in a sad state right now. It's a shame because they seemed to play with their next 3 moves in mind before. Some people disliked their shallow heropool when they were at the top whereas not a single player was wasting a second, it was a brutal mechanic which could win even after the most terrible laning phase. Truly the best dota of the last 3 years imo.
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EPT
