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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 21 2019 08:18 GMT
#501
lol that was a textbook Ember assassination
Neosteel Enthusiast
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44304 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-21 08:18:32
August 21 2019 08:18 GMT
#502
On August 21 2019 17:15 Shergal wrote:
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On August 21 2019 17:05 goody153 wrote:

Looked solid but we are comparing to OG here. If we weren't well i do agree

Otherwise no fucking way that looks solid(secret almost lost to 4 lategames against random teams). And EG's last two days was still shaky as hell despite managing to get into upperbracket

The quality of how solid they are compared to OG is so damn far.

Comparingto OG who beat... whom exactly? The only really strong teams they played were EG (who looked much shakier than both groupstage Secret and current EG) and VG (which was a non-serious game since both were qualified).

It's hard to say how TI will go yet, while OG looks the most impressive they haven't really demonstrated that prowess against the other favorites yet.

Eh VG is a really strong team. You saying that group A teams are better is not really an argument for Secret being better than OG when the results have been really clear so far who is owning.

Even Secret was having a reaaaaally difficult time against newbee but OG just styled on newbee if that is one of the "favorites" you mean. That's how "solid" Secret is compared to OG

Of course this is merely for discussion we will find out later who is actually better at the playoffs(assuming they meet.)
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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2867 Posts
August 21 2019 08:18 GMT
#503
That was a sick gank.
RubickPicker
Profile Joined October 2015
United States332 Posts
August 21 2019 08:18 GMT
#504
EG: “Have free farm, see if we care.”
* N U K E D *
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 21 2019 08:18 GMT
#505
On August 21 2019 17:05 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 17:04 CA Infraction wrote:
On August 21 2019 17:00 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:53 bluzi wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:48 RubickPicker wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:37 goody153 wrote:
as sick as secret was

i want eg to win so that we can get another EG vs OG .. and repeat TI8

This is like the people who kept talking about “el classico” as Alliance and then Navi went to rot.

I don’t dislike Secret but OG will steamroll either of these teams.


There is 0 reason to believe OG will steamroll Secret/EG , mainly Secret which are very consistent and solid team.

Sure if you haven't seen Secret and OG playing this TI since and only basing it pre-TI. Actually pre-TI liquid and VP are pretty crazy. Look at them now

Secret has looked very solid this Ti as well and same for EG after the first 2 days of groups.

Looked solid but we are comparing to OG here. If we weren't well i do agree

Otherwise no fucking way that looks solid(secret almost lost to 4 lategames against random teams). And EG's last two days was still shaky as hell despite managing to get into upperbracket

The quality of how solid they are compared to OG is so damn far.


Its like in boxing , once you face the elite its where it counts , taking NEWBEE apart is not a feat that put them that far away from the competition , are they good ? sure , are they far away from the pack ? NO WAY.

Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 21 2019 08:19 GMT
#506
uhhh how does eg kill anyone that's not ogre without using rp?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44304 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-21 08:21:18
August 21 2019 08:19 GMT
#507
On August 21 2019 17:18 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 17:05 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 17:04 CA Infraction wrote:
On August 21 2019 17:00 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:53 bluzi wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:48 RubickPicker wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:37 goody153 wrote:
as sick as secret was

i want eg to win so that we can get another EG vs OG .. and repeat TI8

This is like the people who kept talking about “el classico” as Alliance and then Navi went to rot.

I don’t dislike Secret but OG will steamroll either of these teams.


There is 0 reason to believe OG will steamroll Secret/EG , mainly Secret which are very consistent and solid team.

Sure if you haven't seen Secret and OG playing this TI since and only basing it pre-TI. Actually pre-TI liquid and VP are pretty crazy. Look at them now

Secret has looked very solid this Ti as well and same for EG after the first 2 days of groups.

Looked solid but we are comparing to OG here. If we weren't well i do agree

Otherwise no fucking way that looks solid(secret almost lost to 4 lategames against random teams). And EG's last two days was still shaky as hell despite managing to get into upperbracket

The quality of how solid they are compared to OG is so damn far.


Its like in boxing , once you face the elite its where it counts , taking NEWBEE apart is not a feat that put them that far away from the competition , are they good ? sure , are they far away from the pack ? NO WAY.



You didn't seem to watch the group stages. Secret almost lost to newbee twice. Like it was so damn close.

OG practically ran through Newbee like they weren't even worth the time.

Rewatch the group stages. You wouldn't say the same if you actually have seen all games from both teams (which i did cause i was really dedicated this TI lol i mean i wasn't gonna miss another TI because of RL obligations )
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-21 08:20:25
August 21 2019 08:19 GMT
#508
These arrows are ridiculous.

Yapzor is just making so much happen
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 21 2019 08:21 GMT
#509
On August 21 2019 17:19 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 17:18 bluzi wrote:
On August 21 2019 17:05 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 17:04 CA Infraction wrote:
On August 21 2019 17:00 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:53 bluzi wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:48 RubickPicker wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:37 goody153 wrote:
as sick as secret was

i want eg to win so that we can get another EG vs OG .. and repeat TI8

This is like the people who kept talking about “el classico” as Alliance and then Navi went to rot.

I don’t dislike Secret but OG will steamroll either of these teams.


There is 0 reason to believe OG will steamroll Secret/EG , mainly Secret which are very consistent and solid team.

Sure if you haven't seen Secret and OG playing this TI since and only basing it pre-TI. Actually pre-TI liquid and VP are pretty crazy. Look at them now

Secret has looked very solid this Ti as well and same for EG after the first 2 days of groups.

Looked solid but we are comparing to OG here. If we weren't well i do agree

Otherwise no fucking way that looks solid(secret almost lost to 4 lategames against random teams). And EG's last two days was still shaky as hell despite managing to get into upperbracket

The quality of how solid they are compared to OG is so damn far.


Its like in boxing , once you face the elite its where it counts , taking NEWBEE apart is not a feat that put them that far away from the competition , are they good ? sure , are they far away from the pack ? NO WAY.



You didn't seem to watch the group stages. Secret almost lost to newbee twice. Like it was so damn close.

OG practically ran through Newbee like they weren't even worth the time.

Rewatch the group stages.


So are you saying that you expect OG to roll this TI? I say they lose to Secret next series , cya soon!!!
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 21 2019 08:21 GMT
#510
On August 21 2019 17:18 goody153 wrote:

Eh VG is a really strong team. You saying that group A teams are better is not really an argument for Secret being better than OG when the results have been really clear so far who is owning.

Even Secret was having a reaaaaally difficult time against newbee but OG just styled on newbee if that is one of the "favorites" you mean. That's how "solid" Secret is compared to OG

Of course this is merely for discussion we will find out later who is actually better at the playoffs(assuming they meet.)

I know VG is strong, I'm saying their game was pretty irrelevant much like LGD vs Secret.

And I don't subscribe to the tic-tac-toe view where we compare two teams playing the third one as a "benchmark" to see which was more solid. Matchups are a thing (evidence being how different same-region matches feel compared to international matches). OG might be able to dimantle Newbee but that's owed a lot to Newbee's inability to grasp and counter their strategy, and we don't know if that applies to Secret, LGD or VG. Hell, even EG if they win this series: pros are always talking about how teams evolve throughout long tournaments to a point where comparing groupstage to later playoffs rounds is pointless.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44304 Posts
August 21 2019 08:22 GMT
#511
I wanted a tight game 3 again after seeing that game 2 godtier game but EG already crumbled from the very beginning.

Mindset is everything folks
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woojaekeem
Profile Joined May 2013
United States524 Posts
August 21 2019 08:22 GMT
#512
this game over i think

secret cores can farm way more aggressively and eg lost so much map control

just going to get devoured economically
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 21 2019 08:22 GMT
#513
Midone finally has a game.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11108 Posts
August 21 2019 08:23 GMT
#514
EG needs some sort of teamfight win. From the mirana on? Everyone else seems like a pain to kill atm.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 21 2019 08:24 GMT
#515
On August 21 2019 17:22 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Midone finally has a game.

EE was analyzing the first 2 games and he said something like if midone has a game, Secret is nearly unbeatable
rip
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
August 21 2019 08:25 GMT
#516
9k gold lead 10 minutes in. Secret ain't playin' in this one
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44304 Posts
August 21 2019 08:25 GMT
#517
On August 21 2019 17:21 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 17:19 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 17:18 bluzi wrote:
On August 21 2019 17:05 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 17:04 CA Infraction wrote:
On August 21 2019 17:00 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:53 bluzi wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:48 RubickPicker wrote:
On August 21 2019 16:37 goody153 wrote:
as sick as secret was

i want eg to win so that we can get another EG vs OG .. and repeat TI8

This is like the people who kept talking about “el classico” as Alliance and then Navi went to rot.

I don’t dislike Secret but OG will steamroll either of these teams.


There is 0 reason to believe OG will steamroll Secret/EG , mainly Secret which are very consistent and solid team.

Sure if you haven't seen Secret and OG playing this TI since and only basing it pre-TI. Actually pre-TI liquid and VP are pretty crazy. Look at them now

Secret has looked very solid this Ti as well and same for EG after the first 2 days of groups.

Looked solid but we are comparing to OG here. If we weren't well i do agree

Otherwise no fucking way that looks solid(secret almost lost to 4 lategames against random teams). And EG's last two days was still shaky as hell despite managing to get into upperbracket

The quality of how solid they are compared to OG is so damn far.


Its like in boxing , once you face the elite its where it counts , taking NEWBEE apart is not a feat that put them that far away from the competition , are they good ? sure , are they far away from the pack ? NO WAY.



You didn't seem to watch the group stages. Secret almost lost to newbee twice. Like it was so damn close.

OG practically ran through Newbee like they weren't even worth the time.

Rewatch the group stages.


So are you saying that you expect OG to roll this TI? I say they lose to Secret next series , cya soon!!!

I pretty much don't care if OG or Secret wins next series(as it seems Secret is gonna win this series considering how tilted EG seems to be playing lol) but i am arguing about how clearly you haven't seen the group stages but made remarks about Secret being far more "solid" than OG has been.

If you have you would have different thoughts about the games.

Obviously we will never know till the real series is played but saying Secret is the actual best team so far is not actually a thing. (it is possible but as we have seen so far nope)
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 21 2019 08:25 GMT
#518
The problem with Secret isn't about not knowing how to play or win. It's about giving in to the pressure of TI and playing differently from their usual. They might wake up anytime in the tournament. Their potential to win TI is still there, and still rather high chances I would say. They are not like EG or Liquid who still have inherent problems in their gameplay.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 21 2019 08:25 GMT
#519
On August 21 2019 17:24 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 17:22 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Midone finally has a game.

EE was analyzing the first 2 games and he said something like if midone has a game, Secret is nearly unbeatable


Well, shutting down Midone was the most effective I've seen a team really take apart Secret in a while. So, a lot of logic about it.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44304 Posts
August 21 2019 08:26 GMT
#520
On August 21 2019 17:21 Shergal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 17:18 goody153 wrote:

Eh VG is a really strong team. You saying that group A teams are better is not really an argument for Secret being better than OG when the results have been really clear so far who is owning.

Even Secret was having a reaaaaally difficult time against newbee but OG just styled on newbee if that is one of the "favorites" you mean. That's how "solid" Secret is compared to OG

Of course this is merely for discussion we will find out later who is actually better at the playoffs(assuming they meet.)

I know VG is strong, I'm saying their game was pretty irrelevant much like LGD vs Secret.

And I don't subscribe to the tic-tac-toe view where we compare two teams playing the third one as a "benchmark" to see which was more solid. Matchups are a thing (evidence being how different same-region matches feel compared to international matches). OG might be able to dimantle Newbee but that's owed a lot to Newbee's inability to grasp and counter their strategy, and we don't know if that applies to Secret, LGD or VG. Hell, even EG if they win this series: pros are always talking about how teams evolve throughout long tournaments to a point where comparing groupstage to later playoffs rounds is pointless.

Ah well ofc that's just us theorycrafting who is going to beat who
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