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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 20 2019 15:51 GMT
#801
Great game
Neosteel Enthusiast
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 20 2019 15:51 GMT
#802
don't know... with exception of OG/Secret eastern dota seems way better than west this TI
The Real Power~
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 20 2019 15:51 GMT
#803
Excellent play under pressure by Mineski
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
August 20 2019 15:52 GMT
#804
disappointed by Navi to make a stupid decision to go for throne for no reason
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
August 20 2019 15:53 GMT
#805
NaVi should have not lost that game by the lead they had after taking the first lane of rax.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
_Elendil
Profile Joined July 2016
Italy192 Posts
August 20 2019 15:53 GMT
#806
Na'Vi basically suicided with that T4 push. Magical popped bkb a second before dying and so couldn't bkb tp after aegis expired.

Then some really weird Zayac initiations destroyed their chances.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11890 Posts
August 20 2019 15:53 GMT
#807
On August 21 2019 00:53 _Elendil wrote:
Na'Vi basically suicided with that T4 push. Magical popped bkb a second before dying and so couldn't bkb tp after aegis expired.

Then some really weird Zayac initiations destroyed their chances.


Zayac did a lot of strange stuff over the game.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44199 Posts
August 20 2019 15:53 GMT
#808
On August 21 2019 00:51 Zea! wrote:
don't know... with exception of OG/Secret eastern dota seems way better than west this TI

Yep. Actually only OG since LGD has shown they can beat Secret but mostly yeah.

This is like TI5 Era all over again where the west owns everybody pre-TI then the east overall outperforms them at TI(or at least just chinese teams at that time)
this is a quote
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 20 2019 15:54 GMT
#809
On August 21 2019 00:51 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 00:48 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:42 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:37 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Is WK harder of a carry than Sven


Sven falls off as the BKB timer goes down and he gets slot limited. Though WK isn't necessarily much different.

Weird part of this game is that everyone has such large ranged damage, it really can go either way. Though there's the looming Late Game Enigma timing.

That enigma isn't much of a threat with 2 bkb piercing stuns from the other side. And like all 5 heroes who can stop blackhole without bkb

this is such a bad enigma game


Aghs & Hex will come soon, which is when Enigma gets nuts.

hex is good but isn't enigma aghs just tied with his ult ? anyways doesn't matter

mineski woooon


What it does is make the other team dance around the Enigma even more, while Enigma can wait on their target even more. Especially as the Refresher + Aghs means you can 100-0 any enemy.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-20 15:54:49
August 20 2019 15:54 GMT
#810
Did Navi have a lotus orb? Sniper would've liked that
Neosteel Enthusiast
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
August 20 2019 15:54 GMT
#811
wraith king stronger than sven....
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44199 Posts
August 20 2019 15:55 GMT
#812
On August 21 2019 00:51 plasmidghost wrote:
Excellent play under pressure by Mineski

Pretty impressive indeed like they won just one fight then they started playing sooo lit.

I think the biggest mistake was allowing that shadowdemon farm aghs.
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44199 Posts
August 20 2019 15:56 GMT
#813
On August 21 2019 00:54 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 00:51 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:48 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:42 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:37 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Is WK harder of a carry than Sven


Sven falls off as the BKB timer goes down and he gets slot limited. Though WK isn't necessarily much different.

Weird part of this game is that everyone has such large ranged damage, it really can go either way. Though there's the looming Late Game Enigma timing.

That enigma isn't much of a threat with 2 bkb piercing stuns from the other side. And like all 5 heroes who can stop blackhole without bkb

this is such a bad enigma game


Aghs & Hex will come soon, which is when Enigma gets nuts.

hex is good but isn't enigma aghs just tied with his ult ? anyways doesn't matter

mineski woooon


What it does is make the other team dance around the Enigma even more, while Enigma can wait on their target even more. Especially as the Refresher + Aghs means you can 100-0 any enemy.

Doesn't bkb negate all the damage from the aghs ult ? I mean if somebody cancels it

I guess this game enigma played more of the threat than its actual value this game.
this is a quote
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11890 Posts
August 20 2019 15:56 GMT
#814
On August 21 2019 00:55 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 00:51 plasmidghost wrote:
Excellent play under pressure by Mineski

Pretty impressive indeed like they won just one fight then they started playing sooo lit.

I think the biggest mistake was allowing that shadowdemon farm aghs.


Shadow Demon won pretty much all late game fights.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-20 15:58:36
August 20 2019 15:57 GMT
#815
Nikobaby: 'I think Navi just fucked up when going for the throne, from that moment I knew we won'
Neosteel Enthusiast
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44199 Posts
August 20 2019 15:57 GMT
#816
even nikobaby knew navi fucked up

but at least navi didn't look like they hated their teammates after .. they hugged each other like they are OG or something
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44199 Posts
August 20 2019 15:58 GMT
#817
On August 21 2019 00:56 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 00:55 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:51 plasmidghost wrote:
Excellent play under pressure by Mineski

Pretty impressive indeed like they won just one fight then they started playing sooo lit.

I think the biggest mistake was allowing that shadowdemon farm aghs.


Shadow Demon won pretty much all late game fights.

Always forgot how ridiculously strong that SD aghs is. Like 3 bkb piercing slows is pretty crazy.
this is a quote
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 20 2019 15:59 GMT
#818
btw, grats to this Nikobaby guy, where did they took him from? Bulgarian boy from zero to hero at least 600.000 dollars TI win :o
The Real Power~
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-20 16:03:19
August 20 2019 16:02 GMT
#819
On August 21 2019 00:56 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 00:54 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:51 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:48 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:42 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:37 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Is WK harder of a carry than Sven


Sven falls off as the BKB timer goes down and he gets slot limited. Though WK isn't necessarily much different.

Weird part of this game is that everyone has such large ranged damage, it really can go either way. Though there's the looming Late Game Enigma timing.

That enigma isn't much of a threat with 2 bkb piercing stuns from the other side. And like all 5 heroes who can stop blackhole without bkb

this is such a bad enigma game


Aghs & Hex will come soon, which is when Enigma gets nuts.

hex is good but isn't enigma aghs just tied with his ult ? anyways doesn't matter

mineski woooon


What it does is make the other team dance around the Enigma even more, while Enigma can wait on their target even more. Especially as the Refresher + Aghs means you can 100-0 any enemy.

Doesn't bkb negate all the damage from the aghs ult ? I mean if somebody cancels it

I guess this game enigma played more of the threat than its actual value this game.


(Wiki)Enigma

Late Game Enigma stacks % Pure damage. It's this really weird timer where your pos 4 suddenly does the most reliable damage in the game. Because Mineski had two tanky frontliners, Kpii just had to wait and stalk the most valuable target. The threat is real, but the impact requires setup. But the team playing against it has to consider it like a tactical nuke waiting out there.

Enigma causes weird things to happen after 50 minutes.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-20 16:03:41
August 20 2019 16:03 GMT
#820
On August 21 2019 00:56 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 00:54 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:51 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:48 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:42 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:37 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Is WK harder of a carry than Sven


Sven falls off as the BKB timer goes down and he gets slot limited. Though WK isn't necessarily much different.

Weird part of this game is that everyone has such large ranged damage, it really can go either way. Though there's the looming Late Game Enigma timing.

That enigma isn't much of a threat with 2 bkb piercing stuns from the other side. And like all 5 heroes who can stop blackhole without bkb

this is such a bad enigma game


Aghs & Hex will come soon, which is when Enigma gets nuts.

hex is good but isn't enigma aghs just tied with his ult ? anyways doesn't matter

mineski woooon


What it does is make the other team dance around the Enigma even more, while Enigma can wait on their target even more. Especially as the Refresher + Aghs means you can 100-0 any enemy.

Doesn't bkb negate all the damage from the aghs ult ? I mean if somebody cancels it

I guess this game enigma played more of the threat than its actual value this game.

midnight pulses damage isnt blocked by magic immunity afaik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
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