On June 08 2016 20:26 nojok wrote:
Required a blunder from liquid, so not working so well.
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On June 08 2016 20:24 Toadesstern wrote:
failed innitiation from liquid like the one toplane with the invis and shadowblades or straight up pushing both works for col and did work when they didn't play with pants on head
On June 08 2016 20:23 nojok wrote:
Except col had no way to prevent liquid from disengaging outside of threatening rax.
On June 08 2016 20:18 Toadesstern wrote:
yeah, when BKB is down. Thus me saying the only way to win for Liquid is to burst her down before she presses the button. If she gets it off she can easily 1v4 and heal herself up for the duration of BKB. And after that 2-3 of Liquid are dead and you can just push. That's how top rax went down: Liquid was ahead all the time but they screwed up a single innitiation and instantly lose teamfight into rax down
On June 08 2016 20:03 nojok wrote:
First, roar was their only stun, with troll warlord's net on doom (lol), liquid had 3 forcestaves, then DP did not have much HP with her build and when BKB was down she could not manfight lesh, so far froom immortal. It was not an outdraft. Besides beastmaster could not initiate, he had to hide because liquid used the infest ravage on him every single time, then what can col do? Doom one target, pop exorcism, use omnislash and pray they did crippling damage because liquid was free to do what they want.
On June 08 2016 19:54 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not even sure how they lost that. Lifestealer literally the only one that can touch the DP, so yeah if you lifestealer blink-bomb her she might die... but just one fight where col gets the innitiation and you have an immortal DP not getting ravaged / dmg from lesh while just rekking everyone. While also having the option to just put BM ult on the single hero that can do dmg: the naix
I really don't know how you can lose that
just look at that highlight: Limp on 100% hp doing 1v3 vs Liquid and killing them lol
On June 08 2016 19:51 deadmau wrote:
So it's true, you still have to actually control your heroes after a getting a superior draft.
On June 08 2016 19:47 Pandemona wrote:
Complexity is so poor at decision making this game even with superior draft it doesn't carry you through if your decision making is all over the place.
Complexity is so poor at decision making this game even with superior draft it doesn't carry you through if your decision making is all over the place.
So it's true, you still have to actually control your heroes after a getting a superior draft.
I'm not even sure how they lost that. Lifestealer literally the only one that can touch the DP, so yeah if you lifestealer blink-bomb her she might die... but just one fight where col gets the innitiation and you have an immortal DP not getting ravaged / dmg from lesh while just rekking everyone. While also having the option to just put BM ult on the single hero that can do dmg: the naix
I really don't know how you can lose that
just look at that highlight: Limp on 100% hp doing 1v3 vs Liquid and killing them lol
First, roar was their only stun, with troll warlord's net on doom (lol), liquid had 3 forcestaves, then DP did not have much HP with her build and when BKB was down she could not manfight lesh, so far froom immortal. It was not an outdraft. Besides beastmaster could not initiate, he had to hide because liquid used the infest ravage on him every single time, then what can col do? Doom one target, pop exorcism, use omnislash and pray they did crippling damage because liquid was free to do what they want.
yeah, when BKB is down. Thus me saying the only way to win for Liquid is to burst her down before she presses the button. If she gets it off she can easily 1v4 and heal herself up for the duration of BKB. And after that 2-3 of Liquid are dead and you can just push. That's how top rax went down: Liquid was ahead all the time but they screwed up a single innitiation and instantly lose teamfight into rax down
Except col had no way to prevent liquid from disengaging outside of threatening rax.
failed innitiation from liquid like the one toplane with the invis and shadowblades or straight up pushing both works for col and did work when they didn't play with pants on head
Required a blunder from liquid, so not working so well.
I mean what do you make of naix going for crit in that case then... if all Liquid needs to do is disengage wouldn't he go for something else? SnY for movement+hp, maybe skadi or something else to get a bit more tanky?