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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
June 08 2016 10:51 GMT
#701
Rampage to end the game. WP Liquid
EZ4ENCE
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
June 08 2016 10:51 GMT
#702
coL definitely did not deserve that game thank goodness.
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
June 08 2016 10:51 GMT
#703
On June 08 2016 19:47 Pandemona wrote:
Complexity is so poor at decision making this game even with superior draft it doesn't carry you through if your decision making is all over the place.


So it's true, you still have to actually control your heroes after a getting a superior draft.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 08 2016 10:51 GMT
#704
Once the 3rd forcestaff was finished the game was for liquid, only roar is not enough lockdown, it was clearly not an outdraft given the few amount of lockdown col had.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 08 2016 10:52 GMT
#705
LS is the new king of this meta , whats his win rate his major , looks really high, Loda played so much LS when he was out of the meta , now that its back of course they ignore it.... sigh
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
June 08 2016 10:52 GMT
#706
On June 08 2016 19:50 Spaylz wrote:
so... is it me or is Lifestealer a tad overpowered?

pubs right now are like ban slark & antimage. then you lose to lifestealer
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 10:55:50
June 08 2016 10:54 GMT
#707
On June 08 2016 19:51 deadmau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 19:47 Pandemona wrote:
Complexity is so poor at decision making this game even with superior draft it doesn't carry you through if your decision making is all over the place.


So it's true, you still have to actually control your heroes after a getting a superior draft.

I'm not even sure how they lost that. Lifestealer literally the only one that can touch the DP, so yeah if you lifestealer blink-bomb her she might die... but just one fight where col gets the innitiation and you have an immortal DP not getting ravaged / dmg from lesh while just rekking everyone. While also having the option to just put BM ult on the single hero that can do dmg: the naix

I really don't know how you can lose that

just look at that highlight: Limp on 100% hp doing 1v3 vs Liquid and killing them lol
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
June 08 2016 10:55 GMT
#708
Has anyone but alliance picked centaur?
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 08 2016 10:59 GMT
#709
On June 08 2016 19:52 bluzi wrote:
LS is the new king of this meta , whats his win rate his major , looks really high, Loda played so much LS when he was out of the meta , now that its back of course they ignore it.... sigh

17 10 but he has been picked by the favorite more often than the underdog, Though the wins while being first pick is more surprising to me, I would not have thought pro teams would struggle that much but naix fits into any line up I guess. Bring back shadow demon please.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
June 08 2016 11:00 GMT
#710
I mostly just find it annoying that he's in so many games, getting a little bored of watching him
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4360 Posts
June 08 2016 11:03 GMT
#711
I make Lifestealer at 17-10 so far this major.

I don't think he's OP. Fnatic beat it twice in must win games against LGD

That last fight he was roughly 25k net worth with rage up against heroes who were low health and affected by shivas from lesh. He just had an ideal situation.
Sucker for nostalgia
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 08 2016 11:03 GMT
#712
On June 08 2016 19:54 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 19:51 deadmau wrote:
On June 08 2016 19:47 Pandemona wrote:
Complexity is so poor at decision making this game even with superior draft it doesn't carry you through if your decision making is all over the place.


So it's true, you still have to actually control your heroes after a getting a superior draft.

I'm not even sure how they lost that. Lifestealer literally the only one that can touch the DP, so yeah if you lifestealer blink-bomb her she might die... but just one fight where col gets the innitiation and you have an immortal DP not getting ravaged / dmg from lesh while just rekking everyone. While also having the option to just put BM ult on the single hero that can do dmg: the naix

I really don't know how you can lose that

just look at that highlight: Limp on 100% hp doing 1v3 vs Liquid and killing them lol

First, roar was their only stun, with troll warlord's net on doom (lol), liquid had 3 forcestaves, then DP did not have much HP with her build and when BKB was down she could not manfight lesh, so far froom immortal. It was not an outdraft. Besides beastmaster could not initiate, he had to hide because liquid used the infest ravage on him every single time, then what can col do? Doom one target, pop exorcism, use omnislash and pray they did crippling damage because liquid was free to do what they want.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 11:06:10
June 08 2016 11:05 GMT
#713
On June 08 2016 19:59 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 19:52 bluzi wrote:
LS is the new king of this meta , whats his win rate his major , looks really high, Loda played so much LS when he was out of the meta , now that its back of course they ignore it.... sigh

17 10 but he has been picked by the favorite more often than the underdog, Though the wins while being first pick is more surprising to me, I would not have thought pro teams would struggle that much but naix fits into any line up I guess. Bring back shadow demon please.


We've seen a lot of fascinating combo Naix-Bombs. VG.R's Slarder + LS probably being the most out of the meta, but damn did that ever make heroes explode. LS + Riki has been rolling over people in the mid-game a lot, as well.

Weirdly, it's probably useful to think of Naix as much as a ganker than a Position 1, in a lot of situations. It's a lot like how Spectre was being used. You can always find pick-offs in the mid-game, and the reality is that those pick-offs are stupidly valuable right now. With the way the game is and the reward you get. (You can accelerate supports in levels with them, which is probably their most valuable attribute.)
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
June 08 2016 11:07 GMT
#714
if col couldn't win that game i can't imagine they'll win any game against liquid.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 08 2016 11:08 GMT
#715
On June 08 2016 20:05 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 19:59 nojok wrote:
On June 08 2016 19:52 bluzi wrote:
LS is the new king of this meta , whats his win rate his major , looks really high, Loda played so much LS when he was out of the meta , now that its back of course they ignore it.... sigh

17 10 but he has been picked by the favorite more often than the underdog, Though the wins while being first pick is more surprising to me, I would not have thought pro teams would struggle that much but naix fits into any line up I guess. Bring back shadow demon please.


We've seen a lot of fascinating combo Naix-Bombs. VG.R's Slarder + LS probably being the most out of the meta, but damn did that ever make heroes explode. LS + Riki has been rolling over people in the mid-game a lot, as well.

Weirdly, it's probably useful to think of Naix as much as a ganker than a Position 1, in a lot of situations. It's a lot like how Spectre was being used. You can always find pick-offs in the mid-game, and the reality is that those pick-offs are stupidly valuable right now. With the way the game is and the reward you get. (You can accelerate supports in levels with them, which is probably their most valuable attribute.)

I think shutting down top tier offlaners : tide, beastmaster, doom and slardar in lane is maybe his biggest strength too, We've seen a few teams trying to go aggro on him but he still gets his farm, so aggro lane proof too.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 11:09:15
June 08 2016 11:09 GMT
#716
push strat again lol. every game
Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 11:10:33
June 08 2016 11:10 GMT
#717
I smell a light scent of drow!
E: Nvm kky did too
EXTERMINATE!
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
June 08 2016 11:10 GMT
#718
On June 08 2016 20:10 Gear 3rd wrote:
I smell a light scent of drow!

Liquid banned her
EZ4ENCE
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
June 08 2016 11:10 GMT
#719
On June 08 2016 20:09 Papercappu wrote:
push strat again lol. every game

I mean isn't that what col does like every game ever?
QO Feasting
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
June 08 2016 11:14 GMT
#720
On June 08 2016 20:10 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 20:09 Papercappu wrote:
push strat again lol. every game

I mean isn't that what col does like every game ever?

good thing liquid ban that venge drow
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