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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5801
On August 04 2015 12:23 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 12:22 Daralii wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:21 739 wrote:
So I just woke up and holy fucking shit CDEC 2-0 Clown9, FUCK YES !!!!!!! And quite a few games left :D

You missed Korea's glorious triumph over the RPG menace.

Worth watching the VOD ?

Most entertaining game of today by far. Lot of little mistakes on each side but it was a fun mess to watch.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44277 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5802
fy with glasses look so different .. it's like a better fy
this is a quote
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5803
On August 04 2015 12:21 739 wrote:
So I just woke up and holy fucking shit CDEC 2-0 Clown9, FUCK YES !!!!!!! And quite a few games left :D


im jelly, i didnt sleep yet!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5804
I just realized: Super's best game this tournament so far was his loss to EG. On Leshrekt.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5805
On August 04 2015 12:17 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 12:13 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:09 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:04 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:03 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:02 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:01 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 11:56 Azarkon wrote:
It's ridiculous how fast these teams are improving.

This is why Koreans beat other regions in every video game that they have a lot of teams in.


This is with their domestic scene basically folding with KDL being done.
If Korean dota had half the support that Korean LoL has they would be much further.


Of course. They'd have taken over by now.


Chinese LoL teams have already given up and started to buy Korean players for their teams.
Korean teams can't financially keep most of their top players because of the huge gap in pay between China and Korea.


I know. I follow both scenes, though I am a Dota fan first.

The Chinese won't ever be able to do what Koreans do in video games, because there is a fundamental difference in attitude. Of that, I was always sure. It's why, even in years when the Chinese win, I said that they won't take over. They simply lack the culture for it.

Which is funny because Korea has assimilated many Chinese culture.
Since the founding of Joseon Korean culture has been hugely influenced by Confucianism.


I don't think that has anything to do with it. The culture I'm talking about is the attitude of Korean professionals, who do whatever it takes to improve their own game, and spend 14 hours a day, every day, to do it. The Chinese managers in LoL have talked about it and why they need to import Korean players - because Chinese players just lack the same attitude. We see that in Dota too. For example, Newbee not playing Dota for six months, iG not practicing during practice time, etc.


Korea has been on the verge of annihilation through numerous invasions eventually diminishing from Gojoseon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gojoseon) to the current borders.
They realize that they need to work harder, longer, and better to survive.


Not sure whether it's this but certainly, in games, they work a lot harder than every one else, and further, they work efficiently. Other regions think that practice = playing drunk with bad music, fucking around in practice games, etc. That's not the way to improve. To improve, you have to play to improve. In the same way that the average player is able to play thousands of hours and still be the same MMR, the same goes for professionals when they're not playing to improve.
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3804 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5806
Vici trying to ban out their carry Sonneiko.
SleepyDreams
Profile Joined July 2012
600 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5807
I feel sorry for Artstyle, having xboct stand over him like that seems like they don't trust him to do the draft completely. When puppey used to draft, Navi all sat in their chairs and trusted Puppey (kuro) to draft, kinda like EG with ppd (aui)
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5808
On August 04 2015 12:26 goody153 wrote:
fy with glasses look so different .. it's like a better fy


you forget #nohomo
Proud owner of Fnatic and Clutch Gamers's Discussion Page
Switters
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada120 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5809
Please Pudge
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5810
On August 04 2015 12:18 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 12:15 Reson wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:13 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:09 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:04 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:03 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:02 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:01 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 11:56 Azarkon wrote:
It's ridiculous how fast these teams are improving.

This is why Koreans beat other regions in every video game that they have a lot of teams in.


This is with their domestic scene basically folding with KDL being done.
If Korean dota had half the support that Korean LoL has they would be much further.


Of course. They'd have taken over by now.


Chinese LoL teams have already given up and started to buy Korean players for their teams.
Korean teams can't financially keep most of their top players because of the huge gap in pay between China and Korea.


I know. I follow both scenes, though I am a Dota fan first.

The Chinese won't ever be able to do what Koreans do in video games, because there is a fundamental difference in attitude. Of that, I was always sure. It's why, even in years when the Chinese win, I said that they won't take over. They simply lack the culture for it.

Which is funny because Korea has assimilated many Chinese culture.
Since the founding of Joseon Korean culture has been hugely influenced by Confucianism.


I don't think that has anything to do with it. The culture I'm talking about is the attitude of Korean professionals, who do whatever it takes to improve their own game, and spend 14 hours a day, every day, to do it. The Chinese managers in LoL have talked about it and why they need to import Korean players - because Chinese players just lack the same attitude. We see that in Dota too. For example, Newbee not playing Dota for six months, iG not practicing during practice time, etc.


Now I'm curious where did you find how IG doesn't practice? Do you understand Chinese?


It's pretty obvious when you look at twitch.


Ok. Guess I will figure out how to mute people now.
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
August 04 2015 03:27 GMT
#5811
On August 04 2015 12:26 SleepyDreams wrote:
I feel sorry for Artstyle, having xboct stand over him like that seems like they don't trust him to do the draft completely. When puppey used to draft, Navi all sat in their chairs and trusted Puppey (kuro) to draft, kinda like EG with ppd (aui)


I don't see how standing behind him means he doesn't trust him...
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 04 2015 03:27 GMT
#5812
On August 04 2015 12:26 SleepyDreams wrote:
I feel sorry for Artstyle, having xboct stand over him like that seems like they don't trust him to do the draft completely. When puppey used to draft, Navi all sat in their chairs and trusted Puppey (kuro) to draft, kinda like EG with ppd (aui)


The only person they should all trust without reservation right now is Sonnieko.
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nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
August 04 2015 03:27 GMT
#5813
On August 04 2015 12:23 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 12:22 Daralii wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:21 739 wrote:
So I just woke up and holy fucking shit CDEC 2-0 Clown9, FUCK YES !!!!!!! And quite a few games left :D

You missed Korea's glorious triumph over the RPG menace.

Worth watching the VOD ?

If you have time. It was like team death match with lots of fights and kills, however. It was filled with mistakes and newbee was uncoordinated. Not very skilled but entertaining.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 03:28:45
August 04 2015 03:28 GMT
#5814
On August 04 2015 12:13 Azarkon wrote:
I don't think that has anything to do with it. The culture I'm talking about is the attitude of Korean professionals, who do whatever it takes to improve their own game, and spend 14 hours a day, every day, to do it. The Chinese managers in LoL have talked about it and why they need to import Korean players - because Chinese players just lack the same attitude. We see that in Dota too. For example, Newbee not playing Dota for six months, iG not practicing during practice time, etc.

I accepted my status as a lazy fuck years ago.

It's nice to know that, thanks to Azarkon, I can now absolve myself of any responsibility for it, since it's just a racial tendency apparently.
Moderator
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 04 2015 03:28 GMT
#5815
This is Hao's Akasha, right?
Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
August 04 2015 03:28 GMT
#5816
Iceiceice should play Axe. It may be the only way for VG to not completely suck against Dazzle.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 03:32:37
August 04 2015 03:28 GMT
#5817
On August 04 2015 12:28 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 12:13 Azarkon wrote:
I don't think that has anything to do with it. The culture I'm talking about is the attitude of Korean professionals, who do whatever it takes to improve their own game, and spend 14 hours a day, every day, to do it. The Chinese managers in LoL have talked about it and why they need to import Korean players - because Chinese players just lack the same attitude. We see that in Dota too. For example, Newbee not playing Dota for six months, iG not practicing during practice time, etc.

I accepted my status as a lazy fuck years ago.

It's nice to know that, thanks to Azarkon, I can now absolve myself of any responsibility for it, since it's just a racial tendency apparently.


It's cultural, having to do with video games specifically.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 04 2015 03:29 GMT
#5818
Uh oh...

YOLO AM time.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 03:29 GMT
#5819
Well, RIP Russian analyst prediction of push,
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 04 2015 03:29 GMT
#5820
Hvost AM #YOLO
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
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