• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:27
CET 23:27
KST 07:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational10SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)19Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea Which foreign pros are considered the best? BW General Discussion BW AKA finder tool
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1322 users

[TI5] Main Event Day 1 - Page 291

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 289 290 291 292 293 371 Next
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5801
On August 04 2015 12:23 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 12:22 Daralii wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:21 739 wrote:
So I just woke up and holy fucking shit CDEC 2-0 Clown9, FUCK YES !!!!!!! And quite a few games left :D

You missed Korea's glorious triumph over the RPG menace.

Worth watching the VOD ?

Most entertaining game of today by far. Lot of little mistakes on each side but it was a fun mess to watch.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5802
fy with glasses look so different .. it's like a better fy
this is a quote
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5803
On August 04 2015 12:21 739 wrote:
So I just woke up and holy fucking shit CDEC 2-0 Clown9, FUCK YES !!!!!!! And quite a few games left :D


im jelly, i didnt sleep yet!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5804
I just realized: Super's best game this tournament so far was his loss to EG. On Leshrekt.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5805
On August 04 2015 12:17 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 12:13 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:09 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:04 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:03 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:02 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:01 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 11:56 Azarkon wrote:
It's ridiculous how fast these teams are improving.

This is why Koreans beat other regions in every video game that they have a lot of teams in.


This is with their domestic scene basically folding with KDL being done.
If Korean dota had half the support that Korean LoL has they would be much further.


Of course. They'd have taken over by now.


Chinese LoL teams have already given up and started to buy Korean players for their teams.
Korean teams can't financially keep most of their top players because of the huge gap in pay between China and Korea.


I know. I follow both scenes, though I am a Dota fan first.

The Chinese won't ever be able to do what Koreans do in video games, because there is a fundamental difference in attitude. Of that, I was always sure. It's why, even in years when the Chinese win, I said that they won't take over. They simply lack the culture for it.

Which is funny because Korea has assimilated many Chinese culture.
Since the founding of Joseon Korean culture has been hugely influenced by Confucianism.


I don't think that has anything to do with it. The culture I'm talking about is the attitude of Korean professionals, who do whatever it takes to improve their own game, and spend 14 hours a day, every day, to do it. The Chinese managers in LoL have talked about it and why they need to import Korean players - because Chinese players just lack the same attitude. We see that in Dota too. For example, Newbee not playing Dota for six months, iG not practicing during practice time, etc.


Korea has been on the verge of annihilation through numerous invasions eventually diminishing from Gojoseon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gojoseon) to the current borders.
They realize that they need to work harder, longer, and better to survive.


Not sure whether it's this but certainly, in games, they work a lot harder than every one else, and further, they work efficiently. Other regions think that practice = playing drunk with bad music, fucking around in practice games, etc. That's not the way to improve. To improve, you have to play to improve. In the same way that the average player is able to play thousands of hours and still be the same MMR, the same goes for professionals when they're not playing to improve.
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5806
Vici trying to ban out their carry Sonneiko.
SleepyDreams
Profile Joined July 2012
600 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5807
I feel sorry for Artstyle, having xboct stand over him like that seems like they don't trust him to do the draft completely. When puppey used to draft, Navi all sat in their chairs and trusted Puppey (kuro) to draft, kinda like EG with ppd (aui)
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5808
On August 04 2015 12:26 goody153 wrote:
fy with glasses look so different .. it's like a better fy


you forget #nohomo
Proud owner of Fnatic and Clutch Gamers's Discussion Page
Switters
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada120 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5809
Please Pudge
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 04 2015 03:26 GMT
#5810
On August 04 2015 12:18 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 12:15 Reson wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:13 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:09 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:04 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:03 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:02 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:01 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 04 2015 11:56 Azarkon wrote:
It's ridiculous how fast these teams are improving.

This is why Koreans beat other regions in every video game that they have a lot of teams in.


This is with their domestic scene basically folding with KDL being done.
If Korean dota had half the support that Korean LoL has they would be much further.


Of course. They'd have taken over by now.


Chinese LoL teams have already given up and started to buy Korean players for their teams.
Korean teams can't financially keep most of their top players because of the huge gap in pay between China and Korea.


I know. I follow both scenes, though I am a Dota fan first.

The Chinese won't ever be able to do what Koreans do in video games, because there is a fundamental difference in attitude. Of that, I was always sure. It's why, even in years when the Chinese win, I said that they won't take over. They simply lack the culture for it.

Which is funny because Korea has assimilated many Chinese culture.
Since the founding of Joseon Korean culture has been hugely influenced by Confucianism.


I don't think that has anything to do with it. The culture I'm talking about is the attitude of Korean professionals, who do whatever it takes to improve their own game, and spend 14 hours a day, every day, to do it. The Chinese managers in LoL have talked about it and why they need to import Korean players - because Chinese players just lack the same attitude. We see that in Dota too. For example, Newbee not playing Dota for six months, iG not practicing during practice time, etc.


Now I'm curious where did you find how IG doesn't practice? Do you understand Chinese?


It's pretty obvious when you look at twitch.


Ok. Guess I will figure out how to mute people now.
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
August 04 2015 03:27 GMT
#5811
On August 04 2015 12:26 SleepyDreams wrote:
I feel sorry for Artstyle, having xboct stand over him like that seems like they don't trust him to do the draft completely. When puppey used to draft, Navi all sat in their chairs and trusted Puppey (kuro) to draft, kinda like EG with ppd (aui)


I don't see how standing behind him means he doesn't trust him...
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 04 2015 03:27 GMT
#5812
On August 04 2015 12:26 SleepyDreams wrote:
I feel sorry for Artstyle, having xboct stand over him like that seems like they don't trust him to do the draft completely. When puppey used to draft, Navi all sat in their chairs and trusted Puppey (kuro) to draft, kinda like EG with ppd (aui)


The only person they should all trust without reservation right now is Sonnieko.
Moderator
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
August 04 2015 03:27 GMT
#5813
On August 04 2015 12:23 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 12:22 Daralii wrote:
On August 04 2015 12:21 739 wrote:
So I just woke up and holy fucking shit CDEC 2-0 Clown9, FUCK YES !!!!!!! And quite a few games left :D

You missed Korea's glorious triumph over the RPG menace.

Worth watching the VOD ?

If you have time. It was like team death match with lots of fights and kills, however. It was filled with mistakes and newbee was uncoordinated. Not very skilled but entertaining.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 03:28:45
August 04 2015 03:28 GMT
#5814
On August 04 2015 12:13 Azarkon wrote:
I don't think that has anything to do with it. The culture I'm talking about is the attitude of Korean professionals, who do whatever it takes to improve their own game, and spend 14 hours a day, every day, to do it. The Chinese managers in LoL have talked about it and why they need to import Korean players - because Chinese players just lack the same attitude. We see that in Dota too. For example, Newbee not playing Dota for six months, iG not practicing during practice time, etc.

I accepted my status as a lazy fuck years ago.

It's nice to know that, thanks to Azarkon, I can now absolve myself of any responsibility for it, since it's just a racial tendency apparently.
Moderator
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 04 2015 03:28 GMT
#5815
This is Hao's Akasha, right?
Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
August 04 2015 03:28 GMT
#5816
Iceiceice should play Axe. It may be the only way for VG to not completely suck against Dazzle.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 03:32:37
August 04 2015 03:28 GMT
#5817
On August 04 2015 12:28 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 12:13 Azarkon wrote:
I don't think that has anything to do with it. The culture I'm talking about is the attitude of Korean professionals, who do whatever it takes to improve their own game, and spend 14 hours a day, every day, to do it. The Chinese managers in LoL have talked about it and why they need to import Korean players - because Chinese players just lack the same attitude. We see that in Dota too. For example, Newbee not playing Dota for six months, iG not practicing during practice time, etc.

I accepted my status as a lazy fuck years ago.

It's nice to know that, thanks to Azarkon, I can now absolve myself of any responsibility for it, since it's just a racial tendency apparently.


It's cultural, having to do with video games specifically.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 04 2015 03:29 GMT
#5818
Uh oh...

YOLO AM time.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 03:29 GMT
#5819
Well, RIP Russian analyst prediction of push,
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 04 2015 03:29 GMT
#5820
Hvost AM #YOLO
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Prev 1 289 290 291 292 293 371 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 236
UpATreeSC 169
ProTech125
CosmosSc2 53
SpeCial 37
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 196
HiyA 13
Artosis 1
Dota 2
Pyrionflax262
canceldota46
Counter-Strike
byalli626
Foxcn251
allub212
FalleN 2
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1102
Mew2King24
Other Games
summit1g4768
tarik_tv3994
Grubby2369
FrodaN1969
shahzam479
Liquid`Hasu260
ToD242
ArmadaUGS81
ViBE32
minikerr3
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 62
• musti20045 22
• davetesta10
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• Laughngamez YouTube
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21242
League of Legends
• Nemesis3628
• Doublelift1604
• TFBlade1329
Other Games
• imaqtpie2413
• Shiphtur196
• WagamamaTV153
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
12h 33m
Clem vs ShoWTimE
Zoun vs Bunny
Big Brain Bouts
18h 33m
Percival vs Gerald
Serral vs MaxPax
RongYI Cup
1d 12h
SHIN vs Creator
Classic vs Percival
OSC
1d 14h
BSL 21
1d 16h
RongYI Cup
2 days
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
Tektek Cup #1
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.